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Old 3 February 2018, 01:45 AM   #1
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Thinking about adding a third...

So currently I have a black GMT Master II 116710LN and a white Daytona 116520.
The GMT has been somewhat a daily beater, and also was my first one.
The Daytona has been reserved for occasional weekend use, and special days.
Have owned both from new.

I am contemplating getting a new Steel Sky Dweller (blue dial) at some point if I get lucky enough to get "the call" but if the call does come, I need to decide how to play things.

I am not sure I can keep all three, so might have to flip one of the two oldies. If so, which to flip. I mean it'd be sad to see either go, one was my first and had been a trusty daily companion, and the other is an iconic watch with a great movement in its calibre 4130 and I love its clean looks.

Clearly I'd do what I can to keep both and add to them with a third (as the blue will go nicely with the other two, a varied and diverse enough a collection in terms of look and feel, for me) but if I cant, advice on how to decide which to flip?

The mint 116520 would probably more than cover the costs of a new Sky Dweller. The not-so-mint GMT might cover only about half the cost I suspect.

Thoughts?
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Old 3 February 2018, 01:48 AM   #2
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Is cost the biggest issue? If not, then I’d sell the GMT as the SkD can function as a travel watch. If cost is a consideration, then sell the Daytona.
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Old 3 February 2018, 02:01 AM   #3
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I love the GMT, I have one, but if you add the SkyD that's the one to let go, if you have to let one go. The GMT function is covered by the SkyD. The Daytona will bring more money than the GMT, so as mentioned before if $$ is an issue then that's the one you'll get more out of.
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Old 3 February 2018, 02:16 AM   #4
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I'd really try to keep all three.

It gives you a daily, a dressy piece and a "fun" piece (which is also how I've organized my collection).

If one must go, wait until you get the SkyD, then decide after a couple of weeks.
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Old 3 February 2018, 02:24 AM   #5
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I wouldn't sell either...especially not the Daytona, however.

So that leaves the GMT. As Mike said, the second timezone function of the Sky-D takes care of that function, so there's your duplicity (of sorts). So, on paper at least, this makes the most sense to move if you need to.

However, what you might want to consider is flipping the GMT for some sort of diver...then you have all bases covered and you're bringing in a brushed bracelet vs. the two PCL's. Just a thought.
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Old 3 February 2018, 02:33 AM   #6
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Thanks for the responses folks.

Some great food for thought there.

Particularly, the GMT and SkyD from the perspective of doubling up on the dual-time function, but the only thing there I would say is that the SkyDweller will, for me, struggle to pull off a daily beater in the way the GMT can and currently does...

...but if the GMT had to take an exit, I guess I could replace the daily GMT with a normal daily watch, like a smart watch or something super simple...and keep the two big boys for weekends, special occasions only, I don't think I'd want a Sky Dweller to take the daily beating my GMT has. Nor the Daytona for that matter.

As for the cost thing, I will clearly do what I can to keep all three, but the Daytona would go the full hog in covering the new one, but I'd be quite sad to see it go, probably more than the GMT knowing how hard they are to get if I ever wanted one again.

The aim is to retain all three, but I like the idea of perhaps flipping the GMT for the time being to partially fund the Sky Dweller, and then someday perhaps adding a used Diver into the mix to cover the land/sea/air trio.
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Old 3 February 2018, 03:47 AM   #7
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Any of those 3 can be worn as a daily. I would in my opinion keep both and add the Skydweller and put them all in rotation... they are to good to be locked up in a watch box only to be taken out for special occasions.
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Old 3 February 2018, 03:51 AM   #8
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GMTc for a SkyD.
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Old 3 February 2018, 05:19 AM   #9
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I found my GMT redundant to the Sky D and said adios!!!!
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Old 3 February 2018, 05:38 AM   #10
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Oh, I think the Sky-D, especially with its AC function is a perfect daily wearer...every bit as much as a GMT.

As a matter of fact, that's one thing going against it for me...with my collection I don't think I would be wearing it enough to justify getting one. Still pondering it.
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Old 3 February 2018, 08:49 AM   #11
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Give the elbow to the GMT, won't need it with the SkyD
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Old 5 February 2018, 09:13 PM   #12
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Give the elbow to the GMT, won't need it with the SkyD
Saw a friends white dial SkyD the other day, and man was it stunning in person, photos don't do that thing justice, and tbh neither did the 'demo' model I saw of the watch some time back, don't remember that one looking as nice as the real thing, even though the only difference is meant to be it has a working mechanism!

I am torn between blue or white though, feeling it'll be a blue is anything though, as thats the one that caught my eye from the moment they were announced. White one's a hot close second though, and arguably easier to get.

I can see myself being able to lose the GMT for one either of those! Bad me, never let a SS sports watch go right?!
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Old 5 February 2018, 09:35 PM   #13
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I would not trade or sell either the GMT or Daytona. I would save some funds and enjoy my watches. As time goes by the SD will become more common place and the pre-owned market will adjust. At that point I would consider adding it. Sit tight and enjoy your watches. If you can swing it add as a third.
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Old 5 February 2018, 09:40 PM   #14
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I would also trade the GMT providing there is not too much sentiment attached to it given it is your first Rolex. If it had been the BLNR I may have a different opinion.

The blue SkyD is awesome!!
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Old 5 February 2018, 09:43 PM   #15
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Old 5 February 2018, 10:01 PM   #16
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I would keep both for now if possible- though SkyD functionally can take the place of GMTc, the latter to me has a much more sporty look and if it’s been your daily it may fit your daily attire / style better than SkyD. Not sure buying a smart watch and keeping the Rolex watches in the safe most of the time makes sense- they are meant to be worn (IMO)


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Old 5 February 2018, 11:01 PM   #17
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I would not trade or sell either the GMT or Daytona. I would save some funds and enjoy my watches. As time goes by the SD will become more common place and the pre-owned market will adjust. At that point I would consider adding it. Sit tight and enjoy your watches. If you can swing it add as a third.
Am thinking kinda the same....sit tight, if one comes along at retail then superb (like the daytona did), else sit tight....I deffo am not paying over RRP for one, don't need it that badly ;-)

I wonder if the SkyD premium will actually drop much though, its sitting about 4/5k over RRP at the moment for unworn, that could change a little with time i guess, but if u find one at RRP you'll always be on the right side of things.
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Old 5 February 2018, 11:05 PM   #18
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I would also trade the GMT providing there is not too much sentiment attached to it given it is your first Rolex. If it had been the BLNR I may have a different opinion.

The blue SkyD is awesome!!
Feel its the opposite for me, the first one seems to hold a special place for me. There was a time I didn't even wear watches, then somehow Rolex came on to my horizon, and I ended up getting a new GMT some years back. It was my first step into this 'hobbie/pleasure', so is a great memory of that. (I did infact have the chance to get that or the BLNR at the time, both at or below RRP, but preferred the LN and still do!)

Having said that though if it really was the only way to fund a SkyD at RRP then I'd deffo consider flipping the GMT.
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Feel its the opposite for me, the first one seems to hold a special place for me. There was a time I didn't even wear watches, then somehow Rolex came on to my horizon, and I ended up getting a new GMT some years back. It was my first step into this 'hobbie/pleasure', so is a great memory of that. (I did infact have the chance to get that or the BLNR at the time, both at or below RRP, but preferred the LN and still do!)

Having said that though if it really was the only way to fund a SkyD at RRP then I'd deffo consider flipping the GMT.
That's is actually what I meant. Given what you have said I would not let the GMT go. I would never sell my first Rolex. Whilst you may be able to re-acquire a GMT LN you may never be able to acquire THAT one again! Hold onto it and save for the SkyD.
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Am thinking kinda the same....sit tight, if one comes along at retail then superb (like the daytona did), else sit tight....I deffo am not paying over RRP for one, don't need it that badly ;-)

I wonder if the SkyD premium will actually drop much though, its sitting about 4/5k over RRP at the moment for unworn, that could change a little with time i guess, but if u find one at RRP you'll always be on the right side of things.
Don't think prices will fall unless Rolex noticeably increases supply and they won't this year.
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SkyD would be a nice replacement for the GMT.
Keep the Daytona.
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Old 6 February 2018, 12:13 AM   #22
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Feel its the opposite for me, the first one seems to hold a special place for me. There was a time I didn't even wear watches, then somehow Rolex came on to my horizon, and I ended up getting a new GMT some years back. It was my first step into this 'hobbie/pleasure', so is a great memory of that. (I did infact have the chance to get that or the BLNR at the time, both at or below RRP, but preferred the LN and still do!)

Having said that though if it really was the only way to fund a SkyD at RRP then I'd deffo consider flipping the GMT.
If the GMT holds a special place, keep it and flip the Daytona. Your GMT and the Sky D will wear very differently. Does it really matter that they both have a second 24 hour hand/dial?

How often do you really "need" the chrono function of the Daytona?

Trying to objectivise the features of a luxury item that we chose to buy on a subjectve basis often leads to poor purchase decisions IMO.

The SS Daytona is a fantastic watch. No question. But you've said you only wear it on special occasions. Ask yourself this - is it the watch itself you love? Or is it the hype and availability driven value? If its the former, keep it, save up and add the Sky D. If its the latter, sell it when you get the chance to pick up a Sky D
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Old 6 February 2018, 08:13 PM   #23
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If the GMT holds a special place, keep it and flip the Daytona. Your GMT and the Sky D will wear very differently. Does it really matter that they both have a second 24 hour hand/dial?

How often do you really "need" the chrono function of the Daytona?

Trying to objectivise the features of a luxury item that we chose to buy on a subjectve basis often leads to poor purchase decisions IMO.

The SS Daytona is a fantastic watch. No question. But you've said you only wear it on special occasions. Ask yourself this - is it the watch itself you love? Or is it the hype and availability driven value? If its the former, keep it, save up and add the Sky D. If its the latter, sell it when you get the chance to pick up a Sky D
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I dont think I can ever flip the Daytona, its visual appeal to me is too strong. Also took me a while to get, so makes it a keeper. I hear what you're saying about what makes me want to keep it, but its not the hype, its the fact that I like the clean front on the non-ceramic SS model, and it being a thin/daintier piece. As for not using the chrono function, that is very true but then I dont use the GMT function very often either as I am not really a frequent flyer, so what I guess I am saying is the choice of watch for me stems more from look and feel, to variation between the collection - something which a black GMT and white Daytona do give me, and that a blue SkyD would also provide, a varied collection visually.

Leaning towards trying to keep all three as u can probably detect, with an outside chance at having to flip out the GMT if at all.
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Old 6 February 2018, 08:26 PM   #24
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GMT out SKY D in..... No way I would let the Daytona go
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