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4vCoupe · 18 February 2018, 09:57 AM

My friend just text me saying he bought a sub from his friend in Michigan to help him out. The purchase price he told me seems way to low if his friend really needed money. The reason for the low price he said was his friend plans to buy it back. I told him to go get it authenticated but seems fishy to me. This is the only pic he sent me. What does TRF think?

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ssmith96 · 18 February 2018, 10:01 AM

Fake in my opinion

SkyKing31 · 18 February 2018, 10:01 AM

Kind of hard to tell from your pic, but I don't think it is

zaydans · 18 February 2018, 10:35 AM

Bad angle in the picture but looks fishy to me. Color of bezel numbers look white rather than platinum (lighting?), pearl looks a little large. LEC at 6 o’clock is really big. Shouldn’t be a hole in the center of the pinion wheel.

mjclark32 · 18 February 2018, 10:39 AM

Fake, no question IMO. Stay away.

4vCoupe · 18 February 2018, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zaydans

Bad angle in the picture but looks fishy to me. Color of bezel numbers look white rather than platinum (lighting?), pearl looks a little large. LEC at 6 o’clock is really big. Shouldn’t be a hole in the center of the pinion wheel.

I couldn’t tell if it was a hole at the pinion wheel or a reflection. I thought the rehut engraving looked off. I’m going to give him a heads up that he needs to get it checked out ASAP.

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christopheran · 18 February 2018, 11:32 AM

Totally fake.

Cryten · 18 February 2018, 11:49 AM

It's a junker.

crowncollection · 18 February 2018, 12:02 PM

No good

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southtexas · 18 February 2018, 12:25 PM

Fake

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dob1 · 18 February 2018, 12:42 PM

Since pointers are discouraged, i advise you to compare the image you posted with one of the genuine watches in the Classifieds forum, for example this fine specimen:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=584991

If you compare the first image of the watch with the image you posted and flip back and forth, you will see a lot of differences. Some small, some pretty substantial. Pay attention to every detail, and you will find your answer.

Dishpro01 · 18 February 2018, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 4vCoupe

I couldn’t tell if it was a hole at the pinion wheel or a reflection. I thought the rehut engraving looked off. I’m going to give him a heads up that he needs to get it checked out ASAP.

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There is a hole in the pinion. This screams fake! The rehaut engravings, the hands, the sel and the CG 's are hidden in this picture! They will be wrong as well.

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Bigblu10 · 18 February 2018, 01:35 PM

Bad junk.

Masteryacht · 18 February 2018, 01:53 PM

Wow. Hideous.

4vCoupe · 18 February 2018, 02:32 PM

Well, I tried to tell him gently that it looks like it might be fake and he should get it authenticated but he insisted that he already had and all was good. I’m not going to push the issue. I already warned him it looks off.

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Tools · 18 February 2018, 02:37 PM

Agree with all the fake votes.

MinMay · 18 February 2018, 03:43 PM

Ouch. Lesson learned... He might as well call it a donation to soon to be an ex-friend LOL.

The "=" is off.

Chewbacca · 18 February 2018, 03:47 PM

he's not buying that back.

crazymcmichael · 18 February 2018, 08:23 PM

dial lettering looks wrong pearl dot rehaut engraving not correct format and to harsh engraved crown is to big ugly and fake, easy to tell this watch is fake.

Cryten · 18 February 2018, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4vCoupe

Well, I tried to tell him gently that it looks like it might be fake and he should get it authenticated but he insisted that he already had and all was good. I’m not going to push the issue. I already warned him it looks off.

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If he's a friend I would make it very clear that he bought a fake and he needs to get his money back.

How much did he say he paid for it?

crazymcmichael · 18 February 2018, 10:18 PM

yes friends ... lol this watch is horrIble wrong

Jim Smyth · 19 February 2018, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4vCoupe

Well, I tried to tell him gently that it looks like it might be fake and he should get it authenticated but he insisted that he already had and all was good. I’m not going to push the issue. I already warned him it looks off.

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He may already know its fake and want to try to impress people that dont know the difference.

4vCoupe · 19 February 2018, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cryten

If he's a friend I would make it very clear that he bought a fake and he needs to get his money back.

How much did he say he paid for it?

He said he paid $5k for it. Really hope he didn’t.

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GradyPhilpott · 19 February 2018, 04:05 AM

Absolute fake.

Cryten · 19 February 2018, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4vCoupe

He said he paid $5k for it. Really hope he didn’t.

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That just tells me his story is as fake as the watch. If he genuinely paid $5k for it, your doubts should have him very concerned. His claim of already having it authenticated is clearly a lie, because it's clearly fake.

He probably paid $20 for it in some back alley and is just trying to impress you with a $5k watch he just bought. I'd call him out on it, I don't like being lied to.

Abdullah71601 · 19 February 2018, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cryten

That just tells me his story is as fake as the watch. If he genuinely paid $5k for it, your doubts should have him very concerned. His claim of already having it authenticated is clearly a lie, because it's clearly fake.

He probably paid $20 for it in some back alley and is just trying to impress you with a $5k watch he just bought. I'd call him out on it, I don't like being lied to.

Agree.

OP. Looks like he might be blowing hard to impress you. I would let it go. Plenty of people try to impress with fakes, no need to trash a friendship over a watch you wouldn't buy.

4vCoupe · 19 February 2018, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Agree.

OP. Looks like he might be blowing hard to impress you. I would let it go. Plenty of people try to impress with fakes, no need to trash a friendship over a watch you wouldn't buy.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I’m going to just let it go. I already warned him, that’s all I can do.

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jrs146 · 19 February 2018, 07:06 AM

Yikes that’s not even close!

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77T · 19 February 2018, 07:16 AM

Well if your friend’s friend needed the money - and for some reason felt the need to “collateralize” the $5K - then your friend should simply pursue repayment an easier way. I’m sure the $5K has been spent on whatever commitment for which it was needed.

Perhaps suggest to your friend that an IOU has more value down the road than a Rolex. Tell him to let his friend have it back for the piece of paper.

After all if your friend’s friend intends to “buy it back” then mows the time - just an IOU instead of the $5K for now.

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dakota.destiny · 19 February 2018, 07:18 AM

Look at the pearl ,fake.

18 February 2018, 09:57 AM	#1
4vCoupe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Watch: GMT Master 16750 Posts: 795	116610 legit check My friend just text me saying he bought a sub from his friend in Michigan to help him out. The purchase price he told me seems way to low if his friend really needed money. The reason for the low price he said was his friend plans to buy it back. I told him to go get it authenticated but seems fishy to me. This is the only pic he sent me. What does TRF think? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

18 February 2018, 10:01 AM	#3
SkyKing31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Manalapan Florida Watch: Tridor Masterpiece Posts: 2,819	Kind of hard to tell from your pic, but I don't think it is __________________ It's been said that money can never buy happiness which is true, but I'd rather cry while seated in the back of a Rolls Royce limousine instead crying while seated on a bicycle.

18 February 2018, 10:39 AM	#5
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Fake, no question IMO. Stay away. __________________

18 February 2018, 12:02 PM	#9
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,215	No good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

18 February 2018, 12:25 PM	#10
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,761	Fake Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

18 February 2018, 10:01 AM	#2
ssmith96 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New York Posts: 67	Fake in my opinion

18 February 2018, 10:35 AM	#4
zaydans "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Joe Location: CONUS Watch: Rolex 116710 Posts: 994	Bad angle in the picture but looks fishy to me. Color of bezel numbers look white rather than platinum (lighting?), pearl looks a little large. LEC at 6 o’clock is really big. Shouldn’t be a hole in the center of the pinion wheel.

18 February 2018, 11:32 AM	#7
christopheran "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: Mullica Hill, NJ Watch: AP RO Diver Posts: 389	Totally fake.

18 February 2018, 11:49 AM	#8
Cryten "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Terrafirma Posts: 2,655	It's a junker.

18 February 2018, 12:42 PM	#11
dob1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Real Name: Dan Location: Tinseltown Watch: 116619LB Posts: 152	Since pointers are discouraged, i advise you to compare the image you posted with one of the genuine watches in the Classifieds forum, for example this fine specimen: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=584991 If you compare the first image of the watch with the image you posted and flip back and forth, you will see a lot of differences. Some small, some pretty substantial. Pay attention to every detail, and you will find your answer.

18 February 2018, 01:35 PM	#13
Bigblu10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Jaime Location: Here Posts: 5,606	Bad junk.

18 February 2018, 01:53 PM	#14
Masteryacht "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: USA Watch: 16622,BLNR,116500 Posts: 1,008	Wow. Hideous.

18 February 2018, 02:32 PM	#15
4vCoupe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Watch: GMT Master 16750 Posts: 795	Well, I tried to tell him gently that it looks like it might be fake and he should get it authenticated but he insisted that he already had and all was good. I’m not going to push the issue. I already warned him it looks off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

18 February 2018, 02:37 PM	#16
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,499	Agree with all the fake votes. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

18 February 2018, 03:43 PM	#17
MinMay Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States Posts: 2,410	Ouch. Lesson learned... He might as well call it a donation to soon to be an ex-friend LOL. The "=" is off.

18 February 2018, 03:47 PM	#18
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	he's not buying that back.

18 February 2018, 08:23 PM	#19
crazymcmichael "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Here Watch: Sub 114060, 216570 Posts: 2,157	dial lettering looks wrong pearl dot rehaut engraving not correct format and to harsh engraved crown is to big ugly and fake, easy to tell this watch is fake.

18 February 2018, 10:18 PM	#21
crazymcmichael "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Here Watch: Sub 114060, 216570 Posts: 2,157	yes friends ... lol this watch is horrIble wrong

19 February 2018, 04:05 AM	#24
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,449	Absolute fake. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

19 February 2018, 07:06 AM	#28
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	116610 legit check Yikes that’s not even close! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

19 February 2018, 07:16 AM	#29
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 41,948	116610 legit check Well if your friend’s friend needed the money - and for some reason felt the need to “collateralize” the $5K - then your friend should simply pursue repayment an easier way. I’m sure the $5K has been spent on whatever commitment for which it was needed. Perhaps suggest to your friend that an IOU has more value down the road than a Rolex. Tell him to let his friend have it back for the piece of paper. After all if your friend’s friend intends to “buy it back” then mows the time - just an IOU instead of the $5K for now. Sent from my iPhoneX using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

19 February 2018, 07:18 AM	#30
dakota.destiny Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: paradise Posts: 80	Look at the pearl ,fake.

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