Wow! This is a new high for the 3186.

[2th_doc]

DavidSW had an M serial 3186 on his site around spring/summer 2017 for 15k. Now he has a newly listed Z serial 3186 for 19k.....lol. Curious as to who would buy this?

https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-16...3186-movement/


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[Frakis]

This guy on eBay is asking for $28K!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F122961167700

[PLNYC]

Thats definitely insane amount to pay but thats just an asking price. Only he and the buyer will know the selling price

[Rogdogg]

The guy who is maybe not as knowledgeable on such things as people here and has more money than sense might easily buy David's at $19k if he came across it after following the Ebay sale at $28k. He could probably think he was after finding a great deal.

[jrs146]

My guess is it actually sells for a nice chunk of change. There are people out there who are willing to pay the premium for the 3186


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[2th_doc]

Originally Posted by Frakis

This guy on eBay is asking for $28K!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F122961167700

There is a big difference between some guy on ebay asking for 28k.....and a trusted seller asking for 19k.


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[richard371]

Wow I almost bought one at Ben Bridge at Stonestowns mall in SF about 10 years ago. Who would have thought.

[77T]

I am thinking things could go higher, until...well, I was asked not to use the word in another thread because it was scaring the kids.

[springer]

Originally Posted by 2th_doc

DavidSW had an M serial 3186 on his site around spring/summer 2017 for 15k. Now he has a newly listed Z serial 3186 for 19k.....lol. Curious as to who would buy this?

https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-16...3186-movement/


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I wouldn't touch one. Why -Paying a premium for a movement...nope.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by 2th_doc

There is a big difference between some guy on ebay asking for 28k.....and a trusted seller asking for 19k.


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The big difference being 'the some guy on eBay' watch is NOS whilst the trusted sellers is used & just 'excellent condition'.
Both watches are stick dials which makes them highly sought after and rare, but in the NOS case it takes a rare watch into a whole new level of super rareness!
It's definately a case of 'find another in this condition' hence the premium over the trusted sellers watch.
Given the amount of love shown to 5 digit watches generally on this forum, I think to a serious collector a NOS fully stickered stick dial Coke GMT is about as close to the 'Holy Grail' as it gets.
If you've got the money $28k sounds like a bargain for such a watch.

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[sholzer]

I don't think these are coming down anytime soon and could actually see them going up with the current status/scarcity of SS models. Too many people out there willing to pay the premiums for these desirable models

[2th_doc]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

The big difference being 'the some guy on eBay' watch is NOS whilst the trusted sellers is used & just 'excellent condition'.
Both watches are stick dials which makes them highly sought after and rare, but in the NOS case it takes a rare watch into a whole new level of super rareness!
It's definately a case of 'find another in this condition' hence the premium over the trusted sellers watch.
Given the amount of love shown to 5 digit watches generally on this forum, I think to a serious collector a NOS fully stickered stick dial Coke GMT is about as close to the 'Holy Grail' as it gets.
If you've got the money $28k sounds like a bargain for such a watch.

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I wasn’t talking watch to watch comparison so to speak. I was talking seller to seller. David has a flawless rep. And it crazy to me to see someone like him to sell it at that price. I mean he was selling basically the same watch for 4k cheaper less than 1yr ago. I know nothing about that ebay seller.


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[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by 2th_doc

I wasn’t talking watch to watch comparison so to speak. I was talking seller to seller. David has a flawless rep. And it crazy to me to see someone like him to sell it at that price. I mean he was selling basically the same watch for 4k cheaper less than 1yr ago. I know nothing about that ebay seller.


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Appreciate the comment re trusted seller - no issue with that.
I was simply pointing out they are 2 very different condition watches hence the difference in price.
I'm sure if the trusted sellers watch was NOS it would be a lot higher than 19k.
Just out of interest, was the watch you refer to being sold previously a stick dial?
That could explain the 4k increase from the previous sale.

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[DoctorA]

I would love to see what those prices would be like IF Rolex releases s ceramic Pepsi!!

[Chadridv]

This one is a coke, but NOS... Asking price $25,300
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=585700

[2th_doc]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

Appreciate the comment re trusted seller - no issue with that.
I was simply pointing out they are 2 very different condition watches hence the difference in price.
I'm sure if the trusted sellers watch was NOS it would be a lot higher than 19k.
Just out of interest, was the watch you refer to being sold previously a stick dial?
That could explain the 4k increase from the previous sale.

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And yes you do raise a valid point about the NOS. And sorry I don’t remember whether or not David’s previous 3186 was a stick dial. Personally I think the whole stick dial thing is internet hype. But I get it. Fewer of them out there.


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[Brian Page]

I'm trying to verify the serial number - but I'm pretty sure that's what he has..

[2th_doc]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

This one is a coke, but NOS... Asking price $25,300
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=585700

Hey Chadri. That seller you posted and the seller linked in post #2 are the same. Same watch too. Both are based out of Nashville. And both have the same pics. His ebay price is higher.


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[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by 2th_doc

Hey Chadri. That seller you posted and the seller linked in post #2 are the same. Same watch too. Both are based out of Nashville. And both have the same pics. His ebay price is higher.


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eBay price probably higher to account for the sellers fee's he will have to pay.

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[datejust24]

Why in sam hell would anyone pay a premium for a GMT with this particular caliber at all? The 3186 can be found in plenty 16570 Exp IIs at prices nowhere near what the GMTs are bringing...Other than it not being a very common movement used in the 16710 what else about it would command such a premium over a 16710 with the caliber 3185? I’m interested to learn more about the elusive 3186

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by datejust24

Why in sam hell would anyone pay a premium for a GMT with this particular caliber at all? The 3186 can be found in plenty 16570 Exp IIs at prices nowhere near what the GMTs are bringing...Other than it not being a very common movement used in the 16710 what else about it would command such a premium over a 16710 with the caliber 3185? I’m interested to learn more about the elusive 3186

I don't think in this case it's the caliber of the movement that's the draw, it's the rarity of the stick dial.


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[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by richard371

Wow I almost bought one at Ben Bridge at Stonestowns mall in SF about 10 years ago. Who would have thought.

Me as well. $ 5750 with a 10 % discount thrown in at my old AD. Didn't sing to me and I passed. Oh well.

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by sholzer

I don't think these are coming down anytime soon and could actually see them going up with the current status/scarcity of SS models. Too many people out there willing to pay the premiums for these desirable models

Barring complete world financial meltdown they are never coming down.

[SkyKing31]

Originally Posted by 2th_doc

DavidSW had an M serial 3186 on his site around spring/summer 2017 for 15k. Now he has a newly listed Z serial 3186 for 19k.....lol. Curious as to who would buy this?

https://davidsw.com/product/rolex-16...3186-movement/


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I posted last night bout a 3186 I saw going for 19k on a website (can't remember it now) That is a ton of money for a stainless GMT 2.

[c41006]

Originally Posted by datejust24

Why in sam hell would anyone pay a premium for a GMT with this particular caliber at all? The 3186 can be found in plenty 16570 Exp IIs at prices nowhere near what the GMTs are bringing...Other than it not being a very common movement used in the 16710 what else about it would command such a premium over a 16710 with the caliber 3185? I’m interested to learn more about the elusive 3186

+1

I don’t get it

[kans86]

Originally Posted by datejust24

Why in sam hell would anyone pay a premium for a GMT with this particular caliber at all? The 3186 can be found in plenty 16570 Exp IIs at prices nowhere near what the GMTs are bringing...Other than it not being a very common movement used in the 16710 what else about it would command such a premium over a 16710 with the caliber 3185? I’m interested to learn more about the elusive 3186

+1
I too would not pay 3-5k extra for that movement. For me the stick dial of the GMT Master II is also a minor detail, unlike the flat 4 bezel of the 16610LV which really makes the watch stand out from the normal LV.

[Andad]

Ttiuwp.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by c41006

+1

I don’t get it

The last series of the 16710 with a different calibre than all the other 16710's and perhaps a different (stick) dial.
It's a rare watch. I totally get it

[Andad]

Originally Posted by datejust24

Why in sam hell would anyone pay a premium for a GMT with this particular caliber at all? The 3186 can be found in plenty 16570 Exp IIs at prices nowhere near what the GMTs are bringing...Other than it not being a very common movement used in the 16710 what else about it would command such a premium over a 16710 with the caliber 3185? I’m interested to learn more about the elusive 3186

So you don't have one?

[vladamir15]

Crazy