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maverick. · 10 July 2018, 07:33 PM

So i went to my AD last week, where i've already purchased two Pateks (5711 (blue dial) & 5167) and asked for another 5711 (White dial). He told me that i have to wait 15 years. that is just ridiculous.

what would you do?

Descro · 10 July 2018, 07:36 PM

parallel market ... only solution in this moment!

tyler1980 · 10 July 2018, 08:05 PM

you may not get one. These days its not unheard of for AD's or the distributor to deny requests for a repeat purchase of the same reference. different color or not.

Ichiran · 10 July 2018, 08:20 PM

The waiting time for a 5711 blue at my AD is an abstract concept. It's broadly measurable by how many unpopular watches I purchased from them. The white is easier to get but certain sacrifices are required too.

Fat_ninja · 10 July 2018, 08:59 PM

They stopped taking orders at some of the AD’s in the US. So no real quote. My AD breaks it down by spend at AD, and if prior Patek customer. This is the difference between 100 th place in the national chain vs. top 5 or 10 on the list.

AK797 · 10 July 2018, 09:24 PM

No reply, just a slap in the face.

watchbowl · 10 July 2018, 09:38 PM

I can’t get on my ADs list so forever for me

maverick. · 10 July 2018, 09:51 PM

thank you for all your answers. i see... it's crazy everywhere.. i remember when nobody wanted the White 5711 and you could just walk into an AD and get one. i'm just curious if i really have to wait 15 years :-D

jrs146 · 10 July 2018, 09:52 PM

15 years...

I think I’d rather they just tell me they aren’t taking names on the list.

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verse214 · 10 July 2018, 10:03 PM

It's probably however long it would take you to come up with 2mm bucks you can just blow on watches

benlee · 10 July 2018, 11:32 PM

Sounds like they simply don't want your business.

Russell996 · 11 July 2018, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick.

So i went to my AD last week, where i've already purchased two Pateks (5711 (blue dial) & 5167) and asked for another 5711 (White dial). He told me that i have to wait 15 years. that is just ridiculous.

what would you do?

Do you still have both PP’s?

maverick. · 11 July 2018, 12:51 AM

no unfortunately i've sold the 5711 (don't ask why :-( )

Bearxj86 · 11 July 2018, 12:53 AM

The math on the 15 years is probably as follows. They get 2-3 a year and have 30-45 people on the list : )

I have a $3000 deposit on my 5711 blue and I am told that it will be a 12-16 month wait for me; and I've bought 3 Pateks in the past 2 years... (5130R, 5711R, 5153R)

uniqueMR · 11 July 2018, 01:07 AM

Wait time is ridiculous. For sure, its 3+ years..

GB-man · 11 July 2018, 01:34 AM

The 5711 waitlist isn’t a thing. I thought we all knew this. It’s a token kept in the safe to incentivize spending. The level of spending required has been on an upward slope the past 24 months.

Russell996 · 11 July 2018, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick.

no unfortunately i've sold the 5711 (don't ask why :-( )

Unfortunate as it is that might be part of the reason. You have had a 5711 previously and sold it - depending on the period of ownership this will make getting another very difficult. 5711’s are still available to order within a reasonable period - I term this as less than 12 months in the current market.

Russell996 · 11 July 2018, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

The 5711 waitlist isn’t a thing. I thought we all knew this. It’s a token kept in the safe to incentivize spending. The level of spending required has been on an upward slope the past 24 months.

This will depend on your AD, from my experience there is always a list and depending who you are as to where on the list you start.

GB-man · 11 July 2018, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell996

This will depend on your AD, from my experience there is always a list and depending who you are as to where on the list you start.

I would agree it’s different for everyone but by and large average joe isn’t getting on the list in 2018. Two years ago of course not a problem.

Sam Philip · 11 July 2018, 03:55 AM

It all depends on the relationship with the AD. As Russell mentioned above those watches are available within a reasonable time period. After seeing Tyler's and few other photos of 5711 white I asked my AD whether I could get one. I was included in their "closed" list. Recently I asked them the time frame for delivery and I was shocked when I was told I would get the next 5711 white as I knew few other people were waiting. During the same conversation I mentioned that I liked the new blue dial and when I got home I got a call saying I would get the 5711 blue some time next year.

Suttree · 11 July 2018, 04:29 AM

What, if any, has everyone’s experience been regarding the wait time for the 5711R? I thought it would be easier to locate a full gold piece, due to the price and people’s preference for the steel version of this model, but so far that hasn’t been the case. There is only one AD near me, a small non-chain shop that said they could “probably get me one within a year.” Other AD’s at locations I travel to frequently (NY, Vegas, Philadelphia, Austin) have basically just given me a flat No.

Luckily for me, I lucked out and happened upon an AD with a 5167a in August of last year, so that has kept the Patek itch at bay for the time being!

CamSLC · 11 July 2018, 06:14 AM

I got mine about two and half years apart. White first, then blue. When I picked up the second one the evening before the dreaded price increase my AD just asked me that if I ever "needed" to part with them I would use them, which I thought was fair.

I have and will always show loyalty to this particular sales person, and when something else strikes me he is the only one I will contact.

turborolex · 11 July 2018, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

The 5711 waitlist isn’t a thing. I thought we all knew this. It’s a token kept in the safe to incentivize spending. The level of spending required has been on an upward slope the past 24 months.

This☝️is spot on.

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Bearxj86 · 11 July 2018, 08:38 AM

The owners of the AD approve the allocation. There isn't really a list but they only get a few a year. If you are a first time customer...good luck

AK797 · 11 July 2018, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suttree

What, if any, has everyone’s experience been regarding the wait time for the 5711R? I thought it would be easier to locate a full gold piece, due to the price and people’s preference for the steel version of this model, but so far that hasn’t been the case. There is only one AD near me, a small non-chain shop that said they could “probably get me one within a year.” Other AD’s at locations I travel to frequently (NY, Vegas, Philadelphia, Austin) have basically just given me a flat No.

Luckily for me, I lucked out and happened upon an AD with a 5167a in August of last year, so that has kept the Patek itch at bay for the time being!

Wait times will be longer now for the RG, the premium here is 30%, and the 5711 is now over 100% at WF.

watchtabs · 11 July 2018, 09:08 AM

It might as well have been discontinued.

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Helmi · 11 July 2018, 09:14 AM

15 years is utterly ridiculous response

dchang81 · 12 July 2018, 02:23 PM

so you already got a 5711 from them that you flipped, and a 5167, and want now another 5711?

lapince · 12 July 2018, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB-man

I would agree it’s different for everyone but by and large average joe isn’t getting on the list in 2018. Two years ago of course not a problem.

2 years ago the Paris salon didn't take names from first time clients even for a 5712, hence why I went to Switzerland to get one

CoveWatch · 12 July 2018, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick.

So i went to my AD last week, where i've already purchased two Pateks (5711 (blue dial) & 5167) and asked for another 5711 (White dial). He told me that i have to wait 15 years. that is just ridiculous.

what would you do?

15 years is such an egregious response! Should tell the SA that he’s in the wrong field, because if he can predict so accurately that far into the future he should just play the lottery

10 July 2018, 07:33 PM	#1
maverick. "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Switzerland Posts: 106	What is the waiting time for a 5711 at your AD? So i went to my AD last week, where i've already purchased two Pateks (5711 (blue dial) & 5167) and asked for another 5711 (White dial). He told me that i have to wait 15 years. that is just ridiculous. what would you do?

10 July 2018, 08:05 PM	#3
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	you may not get one. These days its not unheard of for AD's or the distributor to deny requests for a repeat purchase of the same reference. different color or not. __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

10 July 2018, 09:52 PM	#9
jrs146 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Josh Location: Lost in time Watch: Me Nae Nae Posts: 9,823	15 years... I think I’d rather they just tell me they aren’t taking names on the list. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own." -Jerome J. Garcia, Robert C. Hunter

10 July 2018, 11:32 PM	#11
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,874	Sounds like they simply don't want your business. __________________ Follow me on Instagram : benlee789

11 July 2018, 01:07 AM	#15
uniqueMR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: USA Watch: P A T E K Posts: 4,706	Wait time is ridiculous. For sure, its 3+ years.. __________________ A. Lange & Sohne \| Audemars Piguet \| F.P.Journe \| Omega \| Patek Philippe \| Rolex \| Tudor \| ...and Othersss

10 July 2018, 07:36 PM	#2
Descro "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Italia Watch: The Last One 5168G Posts: 23	parallel market ... only solution in this moment!

10 July 2018, 08:20 PM	#4
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Near beach Watch: PB1967 Posts: 8,142	The waiting time for a 5711 blue at my AD is an abstract concept. It's broadly measurable by how many unpopular watches I purchased from them. The white is easier to get but certain sacrifices are required too.

10 July 2018, 08:59 PM	#5
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	They stopped taking orders at some of the AD’s in the US. So no real quote. My AD breaks it down by spend at AD, and if prior Patek customer. This is the difference between 100 th place in the national chain vs. top 5 or 10 on the list.

10 July 2018, 09:24 PM	#6
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	No reply, just a slap in the face.

10 July 2018, 09:38 PM	#7
watchbowl "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: U.K. Posts: 469	I can’t get on my ADs list so forever for me

10 July 2018, 09:51 PM	#8
maverick. "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Switzerland Posts: 106	thank you for all your answers. i see... it's crazy everywhere.. i remember when nobody wanted the White 5711 and you could just walk into an AD and get one. i'm just curious if i really have to wait 15 years :-D

10 July 2018, 10:03 PM	#10
verse214 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: New York City Posts: 39	It's probably however long it would take you to come up with 2mm bucks you can just blow on watches

11 July 2018, 12:51 AM	#13
maverick. "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Switzerland Posts: 106	no unfortunately i've sold the 5711 (don't ask why :-( )

11 July 2018, 12:53 AM	#14
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,887	The math on the 15 years is probably as follows. They get 2-3 a year and have 30-45 people on the list : ) I have a $3000 deposit on my 5711 blue and I am told that it will be a 12-16 month wait for me; and I've bought 3 Pateks in the past 2 years... (5130R, 5711R, 5153R)

11 July 2018, 01:34 AM	#16
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,320	The 5711 waitlist isn’t a thing. I thought we all knew this. It’s a token kept in the safe to incentivize spending. The level of spending required has been on an upward slope the past 24 months. __________________

11 July 2018, 03:55 AM	#20
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	It all depends on the relationship with the AD. As Russell mentioned above those watches are available within a reasonable time period. After seeing Tyler's and few other photos of 5711 white I asked my AD whether I could get one. I was included in their "closed" list. Recently I asked them the time frame for delivery and I was shocked when I was told I would get the next 5711 white as I knew few other people were waiting. During the same conversation I mentioned that I liked the new blue dial and when I got home I got a call saying I would get the 5711 blue some time next year.

11 July 2018, 04:29 AM	#21
Suttree Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 30	What, if any, has everyone’s experience been regarding the wait time for the 5711R? I thought it would be easier to locate a full gold piece, due to the price and people’s preference for the steel version of this model, but so far that hasn’t been the case. There is only one AD near me, a small non-chain shop that said they could “probably get me one within a year.” Other AD’s at locations I travel to frequently (NY, Vegas, Philadelphia, Austin) have basically just given me a flat No. Luckily for me, I lucked out and happened upon an AD with a 5167a in August of last year, so that has kept the Patek itch at bay for the time being!

11 July 2018, 06:14 AM	#22
CamSLC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: USA Watch: Rolex & Patek Posts: 1,436	I got mine about two and half years apart. White first, then blue. When I picked up the second one the evening before the dreaded price increase my AD just asked me that if I ever "needed" to part with them I would use them, which I thought was fair. I have and will always show loyalty to this particular sales person, and when something else strikes me he is the only one I will contact.

11 July 2018, 08:38 AM	#24
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,887	The owners of the AD approve the allocation. There isn't really a list but they only get a few a year. If you are a first time customer...good luck

11 July 2018, 09:08 AM	#26
watchtabs "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Charlie Location: Miami Posts: 1,534	It might as well have been discontinued. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ I have all the grails I could ever want, but the hunt will always continue .

11 July 2018, 09:14 AM	#27
Helmi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Doha Posts: 2,065	15 years is utterly ridiculous response

12 July 2018, 02:23 PM	#28
dchang81 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Cleveland Posts: 2,159	so you already got a 5711 from them that you flipped, and a 5167, and want now another 5711?

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