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Old 17 September 2018, 02:06 AM   #1
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The BLRO (and other ss sport watch) game

The BLRO game seems futile for the forseaable unless you are one who spends oodles of money on jewelry and/or less desirable Rolex watches and therefore become a preferrred customer at an AD or you are willing to pay 19k for a watch that has an MSRP of $9250. No thanks to either. An AD told me yesterday I’d have a better chance at getting a BLRO in the next few years if I gobbled up other jewelry/watches. With that logic it would make more sense to buy the premium price from a grey dealer vs spending money on jewelry or watches my wife and I don’t want.

Rolex certainly has the upper hand in the current market. However, for the new generations moving up, online sales is essential. Millennials nor I want to waste time in a store front trying to schmooze an AD every few weeks so we can move up on the waitlist.

Rolex would seemingly do really well with online sales...collect a deposit for the watches ordered and estimate arrival times (note Tesla). Perhaps that would allow them to focus on making pieces that people actually want vs having undesirable pieces sit in the AD cases for incredibly long periods of time. Note to Rolex, customers don’t desire the boring pieces that are currently sitting in the AD stores.

Currently, the market is in favor of those who don’t mind playing the game, which I understand. It’s just not for me.
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Old 17 September 2018, 02:13 AM   #2
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For those wanting the hard to get SS pieces it's time to take a vacation from Rolex and have the chance to discover other brands like VC, AP or JLC.
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Old 17 September 2018, 02:21 AM   #3
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For those wanting the hard to get SS pieces it's time to take a vacation from Rolex and have the chance to discover other brands like VC, AP or JLC.
Yep, I’m definitely going to explore other brands
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Old 17 September 2018, 02:44 AM   #4
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As nice as the SS BLRO is, no watch is worth agonizing over. In the end it's only a material possession. It won't improve your life by owning it or worsen it by not.

If anything, consider a classic 5-digit or vintage. Solve your quest on your own rather than being at the mercy of someone or something else. Complaining won't change the outcome.
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:04 AM   #5
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The other thing to bear in mind is that come April next year they may release something that draws the spotlight away from the Pepsi.
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:20 AM   #6
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The BLRO game seems futile for the forseaable unless you are one who spends oodles of money on jewelry and/or less desirable Rolex watches and therefore become a preferrred customer at an AD or you are willing to pay 19k for a watch that has an MSRP of $9250. No thanks to either. An AD told me yesterday I’d have a better chance at getting a BLRO in the next few years if I gobbled up other jewelry/watches. With that logic it would make more sense to buy the premium price from a grey dealer vs spending money on jewelry or watches my wife and I don’t want.

Rolex certainly has the upper hand in the current market. However, for the new generations moving up, online sales is essential. Millennials nor I want to waste time in a store front trying to schmooze an AD every few weeks so we can move up on the waitlist.

Rolex would seemingly do really well with online sales...collect a deposit for the watches ordered and estimate arrival times (note Tesla). Perhaps that would allow them to focus on making pieces that people actually want vs having undesirable pieces sit in the AD cases for incredibly long periods of time. Note to Rolex, customers don’t desire the boring pieces that are currently sitting in the AD stores.

Currently, the market is in favor of those who don’t mind playing the game, which I understand. It’s just not for me.
correct, but don't mistake that for clients who want and buy watches all the time. They happen to want them all. For someone who just wants one watch occasionally yes its a tough market these days.
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:21 AM   #7
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For those wanting the hard to get SS pieces it's time to take a vacation from Rolex and have the chance to discover other brands like VC, AP or JLC.
well as long as its not a hard to get AP... which is probably what you would want anyway. Thats just as difficult and you are just adding zeros to what it takes to be considered.

Nothing against AP at all, but it seems like people think the grass is always greener on the other side. Patek is the same. Reichmont is the best bet and they make fabulous watches too (ALS, VC, JLC) as mentioned.

If resale sucks, its easy to get, and the vast majority of frustrated SS Rolex buyers will stop the other brand exploration right there. Case in point is the VC overseas. Objectively is a seriously awesome line of watches yet no one is queueing up for them because of the resale, its not because they are not outstanding watches. Or at a lower price point,Omega. Great watches, easy to get, and poor resale. Poor resale is the dealbreaker for most.
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:43 AM   #8
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Sure, I will stop buying Rolex and start piling on the 5711 Available everywhere under MSRP
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:52 AM   #9
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The other thing to bear in mind is that come April next year they may release something that draws the spotlight away from the Pepsi.
Didn’t work for the Daytona,Why would it work for the Pepsi?
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Old 17 September 2018, 03:57 AM   #10
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As nice as the SS BLRO is, no watch is worth agonizing over. In the end it's only a material possession. It won't improve your life by owning it or worsen it by not.


+1

Totally agree

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Old 17 September 2018, 04:48 AM   #11
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The BLRO (and other ss sport watch) game

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For those wanting the hard to get SS pieces it's time to take a vacation from Rolex and have the chance to discover other brands like VC, AP or JLC.


Ding ding ding!!!!

And just wait for the ship to ‘right’ itself. It will happen - it is just a matter of time.

I wear multiple brands — and that has always been my collection strategy - it’s not an investment. I buy what I like - not what everyone else likes - or what has the best resale - etc.

Having several hyped up references across the brands - I will say this. Once you get it — it will quickly just become another watch in the mix. And you’ll move on to the next one. Trust me.

A friend of mine asked me the other day - what’s your favorite watch — my wife quickly responded “whichever one he’s chasing after today.....”

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Old 17 September 2018, 05:01 AM   #12
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The BLRO game seems futile for the forseaable unless you are one who spends oodles of money on jewelry and/or less desirable Rolex watches and therefore become a preferrred customer at an AD or you are willing to pay 19k for a watch that has an MSRP of $9250. No thanks to either. An AD told me yesterday I’d have a better chance at getting a BLRO in the next few years if I gobbled up other jewelry/watches. With that logic it would make more sense to buy the premium price from a grey dealer vs spending money on jewelry or watches my wife and I don’t want.

Rolex certainly has the upper hand in the current market. However, for the new generations moving up, online sales is essential. Millennials nor I want to waste time in a store front trying to schmooze an AD every few weeks so we can move up on the waitlist.

Rolex would seemingly do really well with online sales...collect a deposit for the watches ordered and estimate arrival times (note Tesla). Perhaps that would allow them to focus on making pieces that people actually want vs having undesirable pieces sit in the AD cases for incredibly long periods of time. Note to Rolex, customers don’t desire the boring pieces that are currently sitting in the AD stores.

Currently, the market is in favor of those who don’t mind playing the game, which I understand. It’s just not for me.
Don't hate the players, hate the game, correct.
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Old 17 September 2018, 05:06 AM   #13
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For those wanting the hard to get SS pieces it's time to take a vacation from Rolex and have the chance to discover other brands like VC, AP or JLC.
Those don't appeal to me. I've always loved Rolex and the Pepsi is the only new watch I want.
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Old 17 September 2018, 05:07 AM   #14
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Ding ding ding!!!!

And just wait for the ship to ‘right’ itself. It will happen - it is just a matter of time.

I wear multiple brands — and that has always been my collection strategy - it’s not an investment. I buy what I like - not what everyone else likes - or what has the best resale - etc.

Having several hyped up references across the brands - I will say this. Once you get it — it will quickly just become another watch in the mix. And you’ll move on to the next one. Trust me.

A friend of mine asked me the other day - what’s your favorite watch — my wife quickly responded “whichever one he’s chasing after today.....”

Just my .02


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That's true, its not the watch its the game, its the hunt. Don't hate the game.

There is a famous story and it goes LIKE THIS: There is a poker game and he tells his friends all the players cheat and I will probably end up getting beat up just showing up. His friend says, then why do you go?

AND HE SAYS.......ITS THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN.

DONT HATE THE GAME
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Old 17 September 2018, 07:15 AM   #15
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I don’t understand when it is implied that precious metal or non-sport Rolex watches are less desirable. Less desirable to who?

Could it be that those non-horologically inclined masses drive the bulk of the market? I don’t think this perceived shortage of readily available stainless steel watches are a problem for Rolex dealers or their loyal customers.

Just my opinion.
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Old 17 September 2018, 07:33 AM   #16
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Those don't appeal to me. I've always loved Rolex and the Pepsi is the only new watch I want.
If that is really true then it's worth buying it grey. I'd join an AD list or two set a time deadline, say 1 year, and then if nothing, I'd buy it grey.
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Old 17 September 2018, 08:07 AM   #17
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I am itching for the BLRO - but I already paid grey prices for the Daytona C. I almost wish Rolex MSRP was 20k then I’d not be so hesitant.

At the grey price for a BLRO, you can pick up a RO 15400, or stretch a bit and grab a Smurf. Decisions decisions....




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Old 17 September 2018, 08:12 AM   #18
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As nice as the SS BLRO is, no watch is worth agonizing over. In the end it's only a material possession. It won't improve your life by owning it or worsen it by not.

If anything, consider a classic 5-digit or vintage. Solve your quest on your own rather than being at the mercy of someone or something else. Complaining won't change the outcome.
This ^
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Old 17 September 2018, 08:17 AM   #19
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For those wanting the hard to get SS pieces it's time to take a vacation from Rolex and have the chance to discover other brands like VC, AP or JLC.


I went down this road before - graveyard of unwanted watches I never wear but too lazy to sell. I’d rather just spend the cash on what I want.

It’s like going on vacation but choosing a lower hotel to save a few bucks - in the end you end up regretting it.

There comes a point where it makes no sense to spend that amount of money, but if you want what you want, sometimes you have to so some irrational things.


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Old 17 September 2018, 09:45 AM   #20
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For those wanting the hard to get SS pieces it's time to take a vacation from Rolex and have the chance to discover other brands like VC, AP or JLC.
Agreed. I would add that I've been getting way more bang for the buck than I would have ever imagined from Tudor.

They are killing it right now, IMO.
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Tudor BB GMT is your answer. But hearing the lists have started for that reference as well. Good news is there's not much of a markup if you go grey. Good luck!
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