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Old 9 November 2018, 04:37 PM   #1
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Fake hulk on eBay

Been in contact with regards to this item ID 123476036341 on eBay. The font on the card looks funny and doesn’t show the full model (missing “LV”). The “original” box seems to include a GMT manual and not Sub manual and there are two additional booklets which I have no idea where these are from.

Despite listing stating that it’s payment or bank transfer on collection only, she said that only bank transfer and postage is acceptable as she feels uncomfortable meeting face to face as a woman. Fair enough but tried to convince her that this method is financially unprotected and should meet at a jewellers to which she agreed, and then later declined.

Watch looks genuine from the photos, but something stinks about this. Sounds as if the seller is going to pressurise into paying via bank transfer for posting once the buyer has won the item. She hasn’t responded to my last message asking for a copy of her valuation certificate to be sent (without personal details)

What do you guys think, and specifically about the card?
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Old 9 November 2018, 04:57 PM   #2
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Nothing came up with that item number.
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Old 9 November 2018, 04:59 PM   #3
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wrong post, mod please delete.
I can't add links yet, but look on ebay UK and search on the item ID and you'll see all the photos - did I post into the wrong section?
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Old 9 November 2018, 05:08 PM   #4
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Looks fishy to me.
Seller supposedly based in Twickenham - if it is legit, all they need to do is go to a grey dealer and they would get £8,000 for it. Why put it on Ebay for £7,190???? Stay clear my friend.
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Old 9 November 2018, 05:12 PM   #5
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Looks fishy to me.
Seller supposedly based in Twickenham - if it is legit, all they need to do is go to a grey dealer and they would get £8,000 for it. Why put it on Ebay for £7,190???? Stay clear my friend.
Its on auction and has bids on it, but has offered £8k to me bank transfer and postage only (which I declined). Just need to confirm the warranty card as this doesn't look right - all of other listings for hulk have the bezel code (LV)
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Old 9 November 2018, 05:19 PM   #6
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You are in the right section. Sorry, someone else will have to help, I searched the item number in ebay UK, but nothing came up for me. Must be a glitch on my end.
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Old 9 November 2018, 05:38 PM   #7
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Additional photos added for your pleasure!

Looks like the packaging is too big for the watch (large vs medium)? Definitely the card appears to be wrong in my opinion.
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Old 9 November 2018, 09:38 PM   #8
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Both the watch and the box/cards are fake.
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Old 9 November 2018, 11:24 PM   #9
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I've never seen an outer box with a drop down flap. I don't profess to be an expert, but I do own a Hulk and that dial looks well dodgy to me.
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Old 9 November 2018, 11:41 PM   #10
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I've never seen an outer box with a drop down flap. I don't profess to be an expert, but I do own a Hulk and that dial looks well dodgy to me.
There is definitely genuine outer boxes that flap down.

That number spacing on that bezel look way off..
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Old 9 November 2018, 11:47 PM   #11
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It's fake, at the very least the dial is. Font is way off.
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Old 10 November 2018, 01:14 AM   #12
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the fact that it is missing the LV on the card is already a give away from a stinky deal ...
the box looks quite fake
Watch doesn't look great either,. how old is it ? the chamfer look very dull imo
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Old 10 November 2018, 01:28 AM   #13
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the fact that it is missing the LV on the card is already a give away from a stinky deal ...
the box looks quite fake
Watch doesn't look great either,. how old is it ? the chamfer look very dull imo
2017, supposedly. I've reported it to eBay with the card looking a bit wrong. I don't buy the seller so she (or he) won't be scamming me.
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Old 10 November 2018, 01:50 AM   #14
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Poor alignment of coronet on rehaut to 12 o'clock marker. Looks bad.

Shame User_error isn't around to critique our critique.
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Old 10 November 2018, 01:37 PM   #15
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Reported/removed.
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Old 10 November 2018, 07:14 PM   #16
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Found another on eBay. Same warranty card/serial for a s/s sub (pictured along side a paper warranty) stamped with 18k on the case. Already reported to eBay. Item 163360224827 on eBay uk.

What’s worrying is that many people are bidding on these items and are at serious financial risk.
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Old 10 November 2018, 07:20 PM   #17
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Here are some of the pics
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Old 11 November 2018, 06:52 AM   #18
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Found another on eBay. Same warranty card/serial for a s/s sub (pictured along side a paper warranty) stamped with 18k on the case. Already reported to eBay. Item 163360224827 on eBay uk.

What’s worrying is that many people are bidding on these items and are at serious financial risk.
Zapped that one too.
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Old 11 November 2018, 07:01 AM   #19
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Fake, colours are way off, still they cant get this one right.
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Old 11 November 2018, 06:27 PM   #20
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I've never seen an outer box with a drop down flap. I don't profess to be an expert, but I do own a Hulk and that dial looks well dodgy to me.
You have genuine ones with that. This is just a M box not a S and as you know, boxsize is pretty random choosen by the AD and not to strictly
Watch & card are both fakes
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Old 11 November 2018, 06:38 PM   #21
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Hè guys ...
Google this nr 123476036341
And you find another (legit) looking lv on another site.
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Old 11 November 2018, 07:16 PM   #22
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Sorry for my ignorance but... how does this hulk look fake? (the watch, not the box) This is pretty damn perfect looking to me.
Rehault misaligned also happens on real models I read here on TRF.

If this is all fake.. wow, that's scary!
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Old 11 November 2018, 07:59 PM   #23
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Sorry for my ignorance but... how does this hulk look fake? (the watch, not the box) This is pretty damn perfect looking to me.
Rehault misaligned also happens on real models I read here on TRF.

If this is all fake.. wow, that's scary!
Few clear tell-signs but indeed, they become pretty decent it seems
that sub with the 18k sign on the back too lolss
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Old 12 November 2018, 12:53 AM   #24
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Also, why are the pins coming out of the bracelet?
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Old 12 November 2018, 01:13 AM   #25
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I've never seen an outer box with a drop down flap. I don't profess to be an expert, but I do own a Hulk and that dial looks well dodgy to me.
It's fake. Drop down box on two tones not SS Hulk. Run.
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Old 12 November 2018, 02:29 AM   #26
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It's fake. Drop down box on two tones not SS Hulk. Run.
Box size is not something to worry about, some AD's ask customer which size of a box they want. Or they give one randomly, it isn't uncommon to have a ss professional in a medium box..
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Old 12 November 2018, 03:29 AM   #27
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On both of these watches, the warranty card is the exact same serial.

On the first, a blow up of the slightly visible rehaut serial indicates a completely different number.

I would say that both of these watches are a scam waiting to happen.
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