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Old 26 November 2018, 11:16 AM   #1
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Question - If a watch spends most of its time in the safe, or is worn sparingly, does it still need a "service" on the same schedule as a watch that has been worn more frequently?

Put another way, if a person was to buy a ten year old Sub or DSSD that was for the most part unworn, how long before it would need to head to the garage for an oil change, etc.?
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Old 26 November 2018, 11:20 AM   #2
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If it was just sitting in a safe for 10 years the first thing I would do would be having it serviced. Then I know I can wear it without worry.
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Old 26 November 2018, 11:24 AM   #3
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A watch just sitting may not incur any wear, but the oils may migrate away from where they belong. Also, seals and gaskets may no longer be pliable or have moved from their optimal positioning.

You might have a watch with little wear, but it may be completely unsound for every day use.
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Old 26 November 2018, 11:25 AM   #4
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Gaskets are the real issue. They do dry out.
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Old 26 November 2018, 11:27 AM   #5
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10 years = service due to oil migration. If you're wearing a Sub/SD/DSSD in the water, it's going to need pressure tested anyway. Might as well overhaul it and eliminate all variables.

Edit: Apologies for the broken record here. Others replied while I was typing.
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Old 26 November 2018, 11:32 AM   #6
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Gaskets are the real issue. They do dry out.
They're o-rings made from Viton synthetic rubber and don't actually "dry" out. They can take a set over time and lose effectiveness but have no moisture to lose as one would expect in something drying out.
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Old 26 November 2018, 11:37 AM   #7
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I’d be curious to hear what Bas has to say ...
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Old 26 November 2018, 11:49 AM   #8
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A newer lightly-worn watch that was put away in a stable environment and then brought back to life after 10 years should be fine. Not really that long of a time if you think about it.

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Old 26 November 2018, 12:13 PM   #9
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If you plan on getting the watch wet, I'd get it serviced.
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Old 26 November 2018, 12:35 PM   #10
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If it passes a pressure test then I would not have it serviced.
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Old 27 November 2018, 11:47 AM   #11
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Old 27 November 2018, 11:52 AM   #12
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They're o-rings made from Viton synthetic rubber and don't actually "dry" out. They can take a set over time and lose effectiveness but have no moisture to lose as one would expect in something drying out.
This is true with viton as it has no shelf life. On the other hand unless the watch is still under warranty it is a big risk to assume that there is no issue with the seals.
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Old 27 November 2018, 11:55 AM   #13
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They're o-rings made from Viton synthetic rubber and don't actually "dry" out. They can take a set over time and lose effectiveness but have no moisture to lose as one would expect in something drying out.
Except for the crystal "gasket". Different material altogether.
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Old 27 November 2018, 11:57 AM   #14
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I don't know much on the technical end of things, but IMO if I planned to start using a watch that's been sitting around for 10+ years, and was otherwise in new condition, I'd want to have it tuned up prior to regular use. If It's a watch you're going to just take it out a few times a year for a night out, It think you'd be ok leaving it as is.
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Old 27 November 2018, 07:41 PM   #15
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I would start it up and see when it stops
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Old 27 November 2018, 07:50 PM   #16
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I would put the watch in my wrist and enjoy it (only water tested or avoid water).
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Old 27 November 2018, 08:36 PM   #17
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Pressure test - definitely

Service, yes ideally

If you never wear it, oils can move. This is something i've discussed with a respected and qualified watch maker.

I try to wear all my watches, swapping weekly and as a collector i have to think about servicing.

Because i wear them fairly regularly but not for very long, i'm keeping the movements going enough to find it reasonable to service each of them every 10 years or so.

Some are creeping into the 12 year stage but they are worn regularly and running very well and as stable now as they always have.
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Old 27 November 2018, 09:41 PM   #18
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I would check the timing and have it pressure tested. If no issues present themselves then I would wear the watch. If issues are present then I would service the watch.
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Old 27 November 2018, 10:01 PM   #19
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As you can see, you will get varying opinions. Do what makes you happy. If you wear it and it works....leave it alone. If you want to wear in water or it needs calibrated, get it serviced
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Old 28 November 2018, 12:02 AM   #20
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I would have it tested for accuracy, beat error and amplitude (possibly water resistance but not necessarily as I don'r wear my Rolex pieces in the water). If those measurements are within specs, I wouldn't bother having it serviced.
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Old 28 November 2018, 12:05 AM   #21
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Watch should be fine. If no issues, I would wear for at least three years before considering service.
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Old 28 November 2018, 02:26 AM   #22
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Even if NOS and kept in a cool, dry and dark place I'd still service it. New gaskets and movement service is definitely recommend at this time period.

The rubber gaskets are usually not the first to fail, it is the hytrel polymer crystal gaskets that completely shatter when the case is disassembled.
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Old 28 November 2018, 02:28 AM   #23
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A watch just sitting may not incur any wear, but the oils may migrate away from where they belong. Also, seals and gaskets may no longer be pliable or have moved from their optimal positioning.

You might have a watch with little wear, but it may be completely unsound for every day use.
Exactly this. And then wearing it with lubricant not at the correct place will just cause excessive wear and tear of the friction points in the movement.
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Old 28 November 2018, 05:25 AM   #24
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