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Vice1391 · 3 January 2019, 04:40 AM

I cold called a dealer in my area today telling them I’m looking for a 114060 or a 116610LV. He did meantion that they didn’t have any stainless watches I in stock at the moment He was very receptive to the idea of me calling about a sub and seemed hopeful of filling the order quickly, a much different vibe on the phone than other dealers when I’ve called inquiring about those pieces. He said they were getting a shipment tomorrow or Friday and will call me and let me know if there’s something in the shipment that will satisfy my inquiry.

He called me back 15 mins later asking if I was interested in a black GMT that he found in the back.

Is he fishing for me to buy the GMT in order for what I’m looking for to magically appear, or is he hoping I settle for something similar to what I’m looking for?

I have to be honest, my intuition was buzzing after our first phone call. It seemed as though the sub(s) I’m looking for could become a reality soon. The second phone call kind of threw me through a loop.

Thoughts?

LondonLukeM · 3 January 2019, 04:45 AM

Unfortunately there is no way to know for certain if the AD has ulterior motives. If it was me I would just go to the shop and have a transparent conversation with the dealer and lay my cards on the table and ask him to do the same.
What I wouldn't do is buy awatch that I didn't really want in order to maybe get the chance at purchasing what I really desired!
Keep us updated as to that happens! Good luck

Ian Macdermott · 3 January 2019, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Vice1391

I cold called a dealer in my area today telling them I’m looking for a 114060 or a 116610LV. He did meantion that they didn’t have any stainless watches I in stock at the moment He was very receptive to the idea of me calling about a sub and seemed hopeful of filling the order quickly, a much different vibe on the phone than other dealers when I’ve called inquiring about those pieces. He said they were getting a shipment tomorrow or Friday and will call me and let me know if there’s something in the shipment that will satisfy my inquiry.

He called me back 15 mins later asking if I was interested in a black GMT that he found in the back.

Is he fishing for me to buy the GMT in order for what I’m looking for to magically appear, or is he hoping I settle for something similar to what I’m looking for?

I have to be honest, my intuition was buzzing after our first phone call. It seemed as though the sub(s) I’m looking for could become a reality soon. The second phone call kind of threw me through a loop.

Thoughts?

My thought is your dealer is a master baiter.

JLM3 · 3 January 2019, 04:49 AM

He doesn't have the others but has a gmt II and will sell you that is what I take out of it .

2001jesper · 3 January 2019, 04:49 AM

Why buy a watch that you don't want? There a cheaper alternatives for that eg. DW

Dont think that he is baiting, but rather trying to make a sale

harvey · 3 January 2019, 04:50 AM

Over thinking it. Maybe he just wanted to know if you had considered a GMT? Or would like to see one?

GreatScott · 3 January 2019, 04:52 AM

Buy it, but don't wear it until you see if the others arrive so you can return it if needed. Be warned, you may like it.

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Vice1391 · 3 January 2019, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001jesper

Why buy a watch that you don't want? There a cheaper alternatives for that eg. DW

Dont think that he is baiting, but rather trying to make a sale

I wasn’t considering buying the GMT! I agree with your point though

RHIII · 3 January 2019, 04:58 AM

I think they’re simply trying to sell you a VERY similar looking watch. Period.

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tyler1980 · 3 January 2019, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RHIII

I think they’re simply trying to sell you a VERY similar looking watch. Period.

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+1

no one is going to bundle a SS GMTII with a sub or use it as leverage. Makes no sense.

Rashid.bk · 3 January 2019, 05:01 AM

Ultimately, buy the watch you really want. No one can bait me into something I don't want regardless of tactics. If you just want to buy anything available, then there's not much baiting in that, he's just telling you what's in stock and you'll bite.

Rashid.bk · 3 January 2019, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

+1

no one is going to bundle a ss gmtii with a sub or use it as leverage. Makes no sense.

+2

SS Oyster · 3 January 2019, 05:02 AM

I would think an AD calling with offer of black GMT is looking out for you.

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Vice1391 · 3 January 2019, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SS Oyster

I would think an AD calling with offer of black GMT is looking out for you.

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I am thinking the same thing. Makes me hopeful about the call to come by the end of the week!

Pattyb69 · 3 January 2019, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian Macdermott

My thought is your dealer is a master baiter.

HA!

Roger Lococco · 3 January 2019, 05:09 AM

He's just trying to help out, given the constraints he has - i.e. very few stainless steel sports models. I read it as good intentions on his part.

littleolemoi · 3 January 2019, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vice1391

I am thinking the same thing. Makes me hopeful about the call to come by the end of the week!

and this would be you when your AD calls on Friday

Fingers crossed!

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LesserBlackDog · 3 January 2019, 05:10 AM

Doubt he’s baiting you. ADs who bundle SS sports models are going to want you to buy some slower-moving, higher-priced inventory like PMs or TT DJs, not another SS sports model.

He is trying to make a fast sale with product he’s already got in stock.

Vice1391 · 3 January 2019, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GreatScott

Buy it, but don't wear it until you see if the others arrive so you can return it if needed. Be warned, you may like it.

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If I didn’t already have a BLNR I would probably take him up on it!

TswaneNguni · 3 January 2019, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Vice1391

I cold called a dealer in my area today telling them I’m looking for a 114060 or a 116610LV. He did meantion that they didn’t have any stainless watches I in stock at the moment He was very receptive to the idea of me calling about a sub and seemed hopeful of filling the order quickly, a much different vibe on the phone than other dealers when I’ve called inquiring about those pieces. He said they were getting a shipment tomorrow or Friday and will call me and let me know if there’s something in the shipment that will satisfy my inquiry.

He called me back 15 mins later asking if I was interested in a black GMT that he found in the back.

Is he fishing for me to buy the GMT in order for what I’m looking for to magically appear, or is he hoping I settle for something similar to what I’m looking for?

I have to be honest, my intuition was buzzing after our first phone call. It seemed as though the sub(s) I’m looking for could become a reality soon. The second phone call kind of threw me through a loop.

Thoughts?

Never call,visit in person.Nothing beats face to face business

Dr.Brian · 3 January 2019, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SS Oyster

I would think an AD calling with offer of black GMT is looking out for you.

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I agree. I haven’t seen a black Steel GMT in ages either.
Maybe they should just take over the retail segment and put 30 boutiques in 30 major markets and call it a day. Everyone pays MSRP and they get what they get. Of course the Omega boutique plays games with the LEs, so maybe nothing would change. Though I really think they were just trying to limit profiteering from flippers and grey market buyers.

patrickjb · 3 January 2019, 05:23 AM

A good friend of mine went to buy a black submariner, walked out with a black GMT - and was none the wiser.

When I told him, he could not have cared less - was pumped to have a "really cool watch" that is nearly identical to the Sub with an extra hand.

In short, I think they were looking out for you - or at least giving you the option as quite a few people don't really know the difference between the two watches.

RFBHD · 3 January 2019, 05:23 AM

Buy it!!!! If you don't want one now..... you will at some point

oldman2005 · 3 January 2019, 05:42 AM

I'd get that black GMT in a heart beat ...

tyler1980 · 3 January 2019, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RFBHD

Buy it!!!! If you don't want one now..... you will at some point

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Originally Posted by oldman2005

I'd get that black GMT in a heart beat ...

i think the OP is baiting us into convincing him to buy the GMT

Vice1391 · 3 January 2019, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

i think the OP is baiting us into convincing him to buy the GMT

HAHA!! I have a GMT that I love very much!

RJRJRJ · 3 January 2019, 06:07 AM

They don't bait you with SS GMTs. They do it with two tones and full PMs.

jsausley · 3 January 2019, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vice1391

I cold called a dealer in my area today telling them I’m looking for a 114060 or a 116610LV. He did meantion that they didn’t have any stainless watches I in stock at the moment He was very receptive to the idea of me calling about a sub and seemed hopeful of filling the order quickly, a much different vibe on the phone than other dealers when I’ve called inquiring about those pieces. He said they were getting a shipment tomorrow or Friday and will call me and let me know if there’s something in the shipment that will satisfy my inquiry.

He called me back 15 mins later asking if I was interested in a black GMT that he found in the back.

Is he fishing for me to buy the GMT in order for what I’m looking for to magically appear, or is he hoping I settle for something similar to what I’m looking for?

I have to be honest, my intuition was buzzing after our first phone call. It seemed as though the sub(s) I’m looking for could become a reality soon. The second phone call kind of threw me through a loop.

Thoughts?

He probably legitimately had the GMT in the back, but most likely he doesn't have many people on the basic Submariner list. There's no reason to turn a customer away for a watch like that. It's not like you asked for a Daytona.

Personally I'd buy a black GMT over a date Sub every single time (there's a case to be made for the no date Sub if you don't like a cyclops). You're getting a lot more for your money with the GMT.

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Originally Posted by littleolemoi

and this would be you when your AD calls on Friday

Fingers crossed!

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That's an exceptionally appropriate .gif, and he's even wearing a Daytona.

calh22a · 3 January 2019, 06:37 AM

Seems to me the AD is just being nice and offering you a very similar looking watch almost most people wouldn’t notice the difference between. Unless the AD is a 3 hour drive away, I’d go and take a look and strike up a conversation with the AD. You have nothing to lose other than time and gas money. It’s not like GMT LN are difficult to move. Seems he’s doing you a favor.

easterbunny · 3 January 2019, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

i think the OP is baiting us into convincing him to buy the GMT

lol. this is all becoming so meta

3 January 2019, 04:40 AM	#1
Vice1391 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: USA Posts: 184	Dealer baiting me? I cold called a dealer in my area today telling them I’m looking for a 114060 or a 116610LV. He did meantion that they didn’t have any stainless watches I in stock at the moment He was very receptive to the idea of me calling about a sub and seemed hopeful of filling the order quickly, a much different vibe on the phone than other dealers when I’ve called inquiring about those pieces. He said they were getting a shipment tomorrow or Friday and will call me and let me know if there’s something in the shipment that will satisfy my inquiry. He called me back 15 mins later asking if I was interested in a black GMT that he found in the back. Is he fishing for me to buy the GMT in order for what I’m looking for to magically appear, or is he hoping I settle for something similar to what I’m looking for? I have to be honest, my intuition was buzzing after our first phone call. It seemed as though the sub(s) I’m looking for could become a reality soon. The second phone call kind of threw me through a loop. Thoughts? __________________ Rolex Submariner Date 116610LV Rolex GMT MASTER II 126710BLNR Rolex Submariner 114060 Omega Seamaster 300 2255.80.00

3 January 2019, 05:09 AM	#16
Roger Lococco "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Real Name: Roger Lococco Location: Asia Watch: 126719BLRO Pepsi Posts: 2,978	He's just trying to help out, given the constraints he has - i.e. very few stainless steel sports models. I read it as good intentions on his part. __________________ 116500 Daytona White Dial 126710BLNR GMT II 126719BLRO Blue Dial Pepsi GMT II

3 January 2019, 04:45 AM	#2
LondonLukeM "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Luke Location: London Watch: Daytona 116508 YG Posts: 220	Unfortunately there is no way to know for certain if the AD has ulterior motives. If it was me I would just go to the shop and have a transparent conversation with the dealer and lay my cards on the table and ask him to do the same. What I wouldn't do is buy awatch that I didn't really want in order to maybe get the chance at purchasing what I really desired! Keep us updated as to that happens! Good luck

3 January 2019, 04:49 AM	#4
JLM3 Banned Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: RI Watch: blusylvx2blnrsmpbb Posts: 723	He doesn't have the others but has a gmt II and will sell you that is what I take out of it .

3 January 2019, 04:49 AM	#5
2001jesper "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Jesper Location: Earth Watch: 116234 Posts: 1,763	Why buy a watch that you don't want? There a cheaper alternatives for that eg. DW Dont think that he is baiting, but rather trying to make a sale

3 January 2019, 04:50 AM	#6
harvey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rolexforums.com Posts: 5,426	Over thinking it. Maybe he just wanted to know if you had considered a GMT? Or would like to see one?

3 January 2019, 04:52 AM	#7
GreatScott "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: In a house Posts: 844	Buy it, but don't wear it until you see if the others arrive so you can return it if needed. Be warned, you may like it. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

3 January 2019, 04:58 AM	#9
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	I think they’re simply trying to sell you a VERY similar looking watch. Period. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 January 2019, 05:01 AM	#11
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,173	Ultimately, buy the watch you really want. No one can bait me into something I don't want regardless of tactics. If you just want to buy anything available, then there's not much baiting in that, he's just telling you what's in stock and you'll bite.

3 January 2019, 05:02 AM	#13
SS Oyster 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,186	I would think an AD calling with offer of black GMT is looking out for you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 January 2019, 05:10 AM	#18
LesserBlackDog "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Northern Rockies Posts: 260	Doubt he’s baiting you. ADs who bundle SS sports models are going to want you to buy some slower-moving, higher-priced inventory like PMs or TT DJs, not another SS sports model. He is trying to make a fast sale with product he’s already got in stock.

3 January 2019, 05:23 AM	#22
patrickjb "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Pat Location: Boston, MA Watch: 216570, 126600 Posts: 468	A good friend of mine went to buy a black submariner, walked out with a black GMT - and was none the wiser. When I told him, he could not have cared less - was pumped to have a "really cool watch" that is nearly identical to the Sub with an extra hand. In short, I think they were looking out for you - or at least giving you the option as quite a few people don't really know the difference between the two watches.

3 January 2019, 05:23 AM	#23
RFBHD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Real Name: Ron Location: Newtown PA Watch: Daytona116518GMTLN Posts: 140	Buy it!!!! If you don't want one now..... you will at some point

3 January 2019, 05:42 AM	#24
oldman2005 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: norcal Posts: 3,031	I'd get that black GMT in a heart beat ...

3 January 2019, 06:07 AM	#27
RJRJRJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,495	They don't bait you with SS GMTs. They do it with two tones and full PMs.

3 January 2019, 06:37 AM	#29
calh22a Banned Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: California Posts: 802	Seems to me the AD is just being nice and offering you a very similar looking watch almost most people wouldn’t notice the difference between. Unless the AD is a 3 hour drive away, I’d go and take a look and strike up a conversation with the AD. You have nothing to lose other than time and gas money. It’s not like GMT LN are difficult to move. Seems he’s doing you a favor.

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