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Chief Chininki · 11 January 2019, 12:14 PM

Am I nuts trading my 5167a for the 5167r? Owning both is not an option. I currently have the 5712/1a, steel black daytona LN, steel sub, tudor gmt, tag tourbillon, 36mm gold DD (gift from dad), cartier roadster (gift from wife), I have not purchased a PM before because I always thought they were for old men. When i put on the 5167r, I like the heft, I like the rich brown dial with how the markers pop, and i like that it is an understated PM piece. To be honest I do get a kick out of possessing things that are "hard" to get, which i why i'm hesitant letting go of the 5167a in this market. Is it time for Peter Pan to grow up and evolve to PM?

s.m.b. · 11 January 2019, 12:29 PM

If the hard to get factor is your primary impetus for holding on to the 5167A, I'd move it. That said, I like the 5167A more than the 5167R. I think stainless steel and a rubber strap makes more sense than gold and a rubber strap. Have you considered keeping your 5167A and acquiring a 5711R?

Humble michael · 11 January 2019, 12:32 PM

You bet it is. The stainless is great but can’t hold a candle to the R . I have the r and love it. As you said it really is understated elegance - I even get frequent comments about how great it looks- though not many know what it is.The chocolate dial with 18 K gold applied numerals is Perfect, especially with the wonderful chocolate strap. Do it , you will never regret it Chief , james in San Antonio Tx

Humble michael · 11 January 2019, 12:34 PM

Oh oh is that a black face and black strap on the 67R ?

Jonbut76 · 11 January 2019, 12:42 PM

The 5167R is awesome and takes the 5167 to another level - I’d do it.

I wouldn’t get hung up on having a hot piece - you got it and it’s sometimes time to move on to other things. Plus you also have another hot steel reference.

Humble michael · 11 January 2019, 12:43 PM

Here’s mine - just looks black in pics - they Don’t do it justice

tonupbklyn · 11 January 2019, 12:54 PM

1000%!!!

Humble michael · 11 January 2019, 01:02 PM

Sorry operator error :-(

Starwalker · 11 January 2019, 01:04 PM

In a heart beat!

Ichiran · 11 January 2019, 01:06 PM

If I'm getting a patek sporty watch in rose gold, I will go for the 5712R or 5980R. I prefer leather over rubber.

superdog · 11 January 2019, 01:15 PM

I think gold on rubber is the ultimate “i am who I am watch”.

Both of these are winners.

I’d personally go gold for this one.

RHIII · 11 January 2019, 01:20 PM

PM>Stainless

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BNA/LION · 11 January 2019, 01:25 PM

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soundserious · 11 January 2019, 01:29 PM

Upgrade is a strong word. I’d keep what you have.

jon_jon · 11 January 2019, 01:32 PM

For sports watches, I would say SS >> PM.

However I own a WG Aquanaut, so rules are meant to be broken

ap1 · 11 January 2019, 01:41 PM

X3

SL BRABUS · 11 January 2019, 01:46 PM

Go for the heavy hitters......

Vipes · 11 January 2019, 02:21 PM

5167r

WWC · 11 January 2019, 03:12 PM

Are there differences in the dial between the SS version and the PM one? Or is it the same dial? Thanks!

appa666 · 11 January 2019, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WWC

Are there differences in the dial between the SS version and the PM one? Or is it the same dial? Thanks!

ss has black dial
rg has chocolate brown dial

so does the strap

GB-man · 11 January 2019, 04:59 PM

I’d rather keep what you have personally but both are nice.

lord91 · 11 January 2019, 05:38 PM

iMO, the 5167r is the Aquanaut to have, the best looking of its line, so yes, i would swap the SS for this one.

yoast · 11 January 2019, 06:43 PM

I had the same dilemma and also changed the 5167a for the r.
No regrets whatsoever. I feel the r is on another level

zahain · 11 January 2019, 07:57 PM

Keep the steel. A classic like the 5711. Nice, clean and simple black dial and matching strap. I am not a big fan of the rose gold brown dial/strap config. Maybe if it had a black dial but the brown isnt the best. Steel is more durable and as you probably have been, can daily it without as much worry. Get a AP in gold if you need something in PM and variation.

Fat_ninja · 11 January 2019, 10:01 PM

Im not sure there is a wrong answer here. All aqua and nautilus are hard to get...so you are in very short company regardless. I think the steel vs gold is a personal preference

Me personally id keep the steel vs the gold..

brandrea · 11 January 2019, 10:04 PM

To me the steel looks much better aesthetically on the rubber. To each his own

Cru Jones · 11 January 2019, 10:12 PM

Given what's in your collection, I would do this trade 100% yes.

tyler1980 · 11 January 2019, 10:25 PM

i would rather have the A so no i dont consider it an upgrade at all. If you prefer it fine. But on metal alone no

codecow · 11 January 2019, 10:55 PM

When I tried it on I didn't think it was enough of a change to warrant the cost.

tng11 · 11 January 2019, 10:57 PM

On the Aquanauts, I think the A looks better and fits in with the design of the watch better. But each to their own!

11 January 2019, 12:14 PM	#1
Chief Chininki "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Canada Watch: Patek 5712/1a Posts: 115	Is this an upgrade? . . . Am I nuts trading my 5167a for the 5167r? Owning both is not an option. I currently have the 5712/1a, steel black daytona LN, steel sub, tudor gmt, tag tourbillon, 36mm gold DD (gift from dad), cartier roadster (gift from wife), I have not purchased a PM before because I always thought they were for old men. When i put on the 5167r, I like the heft, I like the rich brown dial with how the markers pop, and i like that it is an understated PM piece. To be honest I do get a kick out of possessing things that are "hard" to get, which i why i'm hesitant letting go of the 5167a in this market. Is it time for Peter Pan to grow up and evolve to PM? Attached Images

11 January 2019, 12:29 PM	#2
s.m.b. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: the Far West Posts: 1,282	If the hard to get factor is your primary impetus for holding on to the 5167A, I'd move it. That said, I like the 5167A more than the 5167R. I think stainless steel and a rubber strap makes more sense than gold and a rubber strap. Have you considered keeping your 5167A and acquiring a 5711R? __________________ Rolex & Patek Philippe

11 January 2019, 12:43 PM	#6
Humble michael 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Port Aransas Watch: 5711 white , 5990 Posts: 1,286	Here’s mine - just looks black in pics - they Don’t do it justice Attached Images

11 January 2019, 01:04 PM	#9
Starwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: aroundtheworld Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK Posts: 2,264	In a heart beat! __________________ 116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds

11 January 2019, 01:15 PM	#11
superdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,952	I think gold on rubber is the ultimate “i am who I am watch”. Both of these are winners. I’d personally go gold for this one. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

11 January 2019, 12:32 PM	#3
Humble michael 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Port Aransas Watch: 5711 white , 5990 Posts: 1,286	You bet it is. The stainless is great but can’t hold a candle to the R . I have the r and love it. As you said it really is understated elegance - I even get frequent comments about how great it looks- though not many know what it is.The chocolate dial with 18 K gold applied numerals is Perfect, especially with the wonderful chocolate strap. Do it , you will never regret it Chief , james in San Antonio Tx

11 January 2019, 12:34 PM	#4
Humble michael 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Port Aransas Watch: 5711 white , 5990 Posts: 1,286	Oh oh is that a black face and black strap on the 67R ?

11 January 2019, 12:42 PM	#5
Jonbut76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 163	The 5167R is awesome and takes the 5167 to another level - I’d do it. I wouldn’t get hung up on having a hot piece - you got it and it’s sometimes time to move on to other things. Plus you also have another hot steel reference.

11 January 2019, 12:54 PM	#7
tonupbklyn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: bklyn Posts: 1,471	1000%!!!

11 January 2019, 01:02 PM	#8
Humble michael 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Port Aransas Watch: 5711 white , 5990 Posts: 1,286	Sorry operator error :-(

11 January 2019, 01:06 PM	#10
Ichiran 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Near beach Watch: PB1967 Posts: 8,505	If I'm getting a patek sporty watch in rose gold, I will go for the 5712R or 5980R. I prefer leather over rubber.

11 January 2019, 01:20 PM	#12
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	PM>Stainless Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 January 2019, 01:29 PM	#14
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	Upgrade is a strong word. I’d keep what you have. __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

11 January 2019, 01:32 PM	#15
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,397	For sports watches, I would say SS >> PM. However I own a WG Aquanaut, so rules are meant to be broken

11 January 2019, 01:41 PM	#16
ap1 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,897	X3

11 January 2019, 01:46 PM	#17
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,391	Go for the heavy hitters...... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

11 January 2019, 02:21 PM	#18
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,981	5167r

11 January 2019, 03:12 PM	#19
WWC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Home Posts: 1,439	Are there differences in the dial between the SS version and the PM one? Or is it the same dial? Thanks! __________________ Royal Oak 15500ST Master Calendar METEORITE Q1552540 \| Luminor GMT PAM 00335 Aquanaut 5167A-001 \| Nautilus 5712/1A-001 Cosmograph DAYTONA 116520 \| DEEPSEA 126660 \| Explorer 214270 \| GMT Master II BLRO 16710 \| GMT Master II VTNR 126720 \| Submariner LV 16610 \| Sky-Dweller 326139 \| Prince Oysterdate 90630

11 January 2019, 04:59 PM	#21
GB-man 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,774	I’d rather keep what you have personally but both are nice. __________________

11 January 2019, 05:38 PM	#22
lord91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Bucuresti Watch: a Rolex duo Posts: 2,322	iMO, the 5167r is the Aquanaut to have, the best looking of its line, so yes, i would swap the SS for this one.

11 January 2019, 06:43 PM	#23
yoast 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: HK Posts: 2,314	I had the same dilemma and also changed the 5167a for the r. No regrets whatsoever. I feel the r is on another level __________________ IG: @yoast.watch https://www.instagram.com/yoast.watch/

11 January 2019, 07:57 PM	#24
zahain "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: _ Posts: 586	Keep the steel. A classic like the 5711. Nice, clean and simple black dial and matching strap. I am not a big fan of the rose gold brown dial/strap config. Maybe if it had a black dial but the brown isnt the best. Steel is more durable and as you probably have been, can daily it without as much worry. Get a AP in gold if you need something in PM and variation.

11 January 2019, 10:01 PM	#25
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	Im not sure there is a wrong answer here. All aqua and nautilus are hard to get...so you are in very short company regardless. I think the steel vs gold is a personal preference Me personally id keep the steel vs the gold..

11 January 2019, 10:04 PM	#26
brandrea 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 81,952	To me the steel looks much better aesthetically on the rubber. To each his own

11 January 2019, 10:12 PM	#27
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 36,294	Given what's in your collection, I would do this trade 100% yes.

11 January 2019, 10:25 PM	#28
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,617	i would rather have the A so no i dont consider it an upgrade at all. If you prefer it fine. But on metal alone no __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

11 January 2019, 10:55 PM	#29
codecow 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: Le Mans Posts: 5,957	When I tried it on I didn't think it was enough of a change to warrant the cost.

11 January 2019, 10:57 PM	#30
tng11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: N/A Posts: 3,636	On the Aquanauts, I think the A looks better and fits in with the design of the watch better. But each to their own!

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