FP Journe Chronometre Soverain “Havana”

[jcarm981]

I actually think I like this watch better aesthetically than the popular bleu model. Are they generally available from retailers / boutiques? I can’t find the MSRP anywhere but saw on here the bleu going to 24.9k so presume it’s same price?

[subtona]

The CS is more than the CB because they are adding the precious metal case and the added PR complication. (Though an argument could be made for the cost of added labor of the bleu dial and tantalum of the CB)

The last time I was in the boutique in nyc they were available.

I would expect there may only be a single piece here and there as production for the company is only in the hundreds worldwide. The CS is not a instant seller like the CB. It is a nece watch most significant difference for me is the case size of ~1mm

[Skyrider01]

The Havana dials have been available at my AD every time I have visited. From what I remember, the CS is price in the high US$30Ks, and the octa lune in the low US$40Ks.

As subtona stated above, they are more expensive than the CB because of the complications, and are only available in rose gold or platinum.

Personally, I love the dial color. Here are some pictures I took at the AD.

[jcarm981]

Thanks - very helpful. I’m going to try to get over to a botique next time I’m in one of the cities.

[JR16]

I’ve seen the Havana dial in every boutique/AD I’ve been. I think it’s less popular than other dials bc it’s less versatile color-wise, but it certainly is beautiful.


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[subtona]

Personally I would pursue a holland and holland / fpj LE, there are 1 or 2 pieces available in the web. Very cool watch.

[Jay (Eire)]

As others have said, freely available but materially more expensive than the CB at retail. Seen a few at grey and for sale used and like the rest of the CS line this route would be the way to go (if you wish to save a decent amount of money).

[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by subtona

Personally I would pursue a holland and holland / fpj LE, there are 1 or 2 pieces available in the web. Very cool watch.

+1. Tried on a Holland & Holland at the NYC boutique, perfect proportions and the dial is very interesting/unique. Very cool collaborative effort as well.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

+1. Tried on a Holland & Holland at the NYC boutique, perfect proportions and the dial is very interesting/unique. Very cool collaborative effort as well.

Was that recent ?
Are they still available new?

[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by subtona

Was that recent ?
Are they still available new?

Unfortunately, this was over a year ago. They didn't have one (atleast outwardly visible) as of 3 months ago when I last went.

[Skyrider01]

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

+1. Tried on a Holland & Holland at the NYC boutique, perfect proportions and the dial is very interesting/unique. Very cool collaborative effort as well.

The Holland & Holland dial is stunning. Here is a pic of one I tried on at a boutique a year ago.
(The blurry one in the background is a Havana dial).

[uscmatt99]

Originally Posted by Skyrider01

The Holland & Holland dial is stunning. Here is a pic of one I tried on at a boutique a year ago.
(The blurry one in the background is a Havana dial).

Beautiful dial. I would personally miss the small seconds and power reserve complications, though I guess that would be very very difficult to pull off with the dial material. Let alone the upcharge on the secondary market....

[_speedmaster_]

Originally Posted by uscmatt99

Beautiful dial. I would personally miss the small seconds and power reserve complications, though I guess that would be very very difficult to pull off with the dial material. Let alone the upcharge on the secondary market....

Agree, I'm not a fan of having a watch without a seconds hand. They could've added a sweeping seconds (as opposed to the traditional small seconds Journe seems to love). Maybe the extra height wasn't compatible with the case.