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Ankurk · 4 February 2019, 02:16 AM

Hi Folks

I am planning to buy a PAM164 with box and papers for $4,000, its a 2006 model with Titanium case and a steel bezel with the black and plastic straps. Is anyone aware of this model (PAM164) having a Titanium case with a Steel Bezel?

Also have the option of picking up a PAM104 without the box but with papers (no extra straps) year 2003 model

Its my first Panerai purchase...let me know what you esteemed gents and ladies think?

Cru Jones · 4 February 2019, 02:25 AM

Are you sure about the model number or case material? The 164’s case is steel.

Ankurk · 4 February 2019, 02:50 AM

that's why I am confused...it says titanium..the seller will be sending the box and papers and insists that it is a titanium case..I also have the option for the PAM104 at 4000K without the box but with papers.

nick c · 4 February 2019, 03:00 AM

Buy the Pam 164 steel complete set.

Ankurk · 4 February 2019, 03:02 AM

Thanks Nick, are you aware of the PAM164 in a titanium case? I was initially very excited since the brushed titanium will be a nice contrast...but worried that I might be going down a rabbit hole...

synequano · 4 February 2019, 03:10 AM

Are you sure it's not 91 or 220? I'm aware of some bimetal pams but definitely not 164

nick c · 4 February 2019, 03:13 AM

Cru have the Pam 164, he knows very well. I think the seller mistaken between steel and titanium.maybe check with him again.

Ankurk · 4 February 2019, 05:47 AM

Thanks, now they get back and tell me that it’s brushed steel and it looks like “titanium” funny!

synequano · 4 February 2019, 05:54 AM

Well,the color between brushed ss and ti are different,maybe the seller mistook that...even though in 164's caseback there should be "stainless steel" written

I won't go for the watch only 104,I saw watch only 104 for less than 3k euros...4k (even in usd) is too much and you'll take a hit during resale because it's not complete

polaris72 · 4 February 2019, 07:03 AM

Why don’t you look at some of the new entry Panerais, they have priced them very reasonably. Edit: 774 has in-house calibre 6000 and list is 4,750.

Ankurk · 4 February 2019, 07:41 AM

Thank you for your response, especially on Super Bowl Sunday. I personally like something with a date on it so liked the 164, plus thought that then rushed finished would be interesting and a little different. If anyone has a recommendation for a model which one can buy in the resale market for 4K or so I will be grateful for the advice.

synequano · 4 February 2019, 11:42 PM

Are you okay with submersible? I think submersible like pam 24 is obtainable in 4-4.3k range...

stockae92 · 6 February 2019, 07:18 AM

For automatic Luminor, I do like the 164 more so than the 104. Otherwise I perfer my PAM to be manual wind.

krv · 6 February 2019, 12:03 PM

The 164 has been on my short list a while. Such a unique dial. I think you should go ahead and purchase this beautiful watch.

Ankurk · 7 February 2019, 03:21 PM

i bought it and had to return it...got the PAM 104...looking forward to receiving it

4 February 2019, 02:16 AM	#1
Ankurk Banned Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: USA Posts: 33	PAM164 - What do you think about this Panerai Hi Folks I am planning to buy a PAM164 with box and papers for $4,000, its a 2006 model with Titanium case and a steel bezel with the black and plastic straps. Is anyone aware of this model (PAM164) having a Titanium case with a Steel Bezel? Also have the option of picking up a PAM104 without the box but with papers (no extra straps) year 2003 model Its my first Panerai purchase...let me know what you esteemed gents and ladies think? Last edited by Ankurk; 4 February 2019 at 02:57 AM.. Reason: ok

4 February 2019, 02:25 AM	#2
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 35,629	PAM164 - What do you think about this Panerai Are you sure about the model number or case material? The 164’s case is steel.

6 February 2019, 07:18 AM	#13
stockae92 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 4,977	For automatic Luminor, I do like the 164 more so than the 104. Otherwise I perfer my PAM to be manual wind. __________________ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246 R

4 February 2019, 02:50 AM	#3
Ankurk Banned Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: USA Posts: 33	that's why I am confused...it says titanium..the seller will be sending the box and papers and insists that it is a titanium case..I also have the option for the PAM104 at 4000K without the box but with papers.

4 February 2019, 03:00 AM	#4
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Buy the Pam 164 steel complete set.

4 February 2019, 03:02 AM	#5
Ankurk Banned Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: USA Posts: 33	Thanks Nick, are you aware of the PAM164 in a titanium case? I was initially very excited since the brushed titanium will be a nice contrast...but worried that I might be going down a rabbit hole...

4 February 2019, 03:10 AM	#6
synequano Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 413	Are you sure it's not 91 or 220? I'm aware of some bimetal pams but definitely not 164

4 February 2019, 03:13 AM	#7
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	Cru have the Pam 164, he knows very well. I think the seller mistaken between steel and titanium.maybe check with him again.

4 February 2019, 05:47 AM	#8
Ankurk Banned Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: USA Posts: 33	Thanks, now they get back and tell me that it’s brushed steel and it looks like “titanium” funny!

4 February 2019, 05:54 AM	#9
synequano Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 413	Well,the color between brushed ss and ti are different,maybe the seller mistook that...even though in 164's caseback there should be "stainless steel" written I won't go for the watch only 104,I saw watch only 104 for less than 3k euros...4k (even in usd) is too much and you'll take a hit during resale because it's not complete

4 February 2019, 07:03 AM	#10
polaris72 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: U.S./Vienna, AT Posts: 1,967	Why don’t you look at some of the new entry Panerais, they have priced them very reasonably. Edit: 774 has in-house calibre 6000 and list is 4,750.

4 February 2019, 07:41 AM	#11
Ankurk Banned Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: USA Posts: 33	Thank you for your response, especially on Super Bowl Sunday. I personally like something with a date on it so liked the 164, plus thought that then rushed finished would be interesting and a little different. If anyone has a recommendation for a model which one can buy in the resale market for 4K or so I will be grateful for the advice.

4 February 2019, 11:42 PM	#12
synequano Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 413	Are you okay with submersible? I think submersible like pam 24 is obtainable in 4-4.3k range...

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6 February 2019, 12:03 PM	#14
krv Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: usa Posts: 32	The 164 has been on my short list a while. Such a unique dial. I think you should go ahead and purchase this beautiful watch.

7 February 2019, 03:21 PM	#15
Ankurk Banned Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: USA Posts: 33	i bought it and had to return it...got the PAM 104...looking forward to receiving it