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Old 20 February 2019, 07:22 AM   #1
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Most Desirable 1680 Red Dial?

Not sure if this question has been asked before (I did perform a search) but what is generally the most desirable 1680 Red Dial? I guess the common answer will be "the oldest" but I personally prefer the MKV due to the crisp text.


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Old 20 February 2019, 07:26 AM   #2
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meters first mark 1 all other things being equal (which they never are!)
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Old 20 February 2019, 07:41 AM   #3
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A genuine tropical MF dial is highly sought after...
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Old 20 February 2019, 11:05 AM   #4
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I like the open 6's on the MK IV dial.
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Old 20 February 2019, 12:44 PM   #5
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Old 20 February 2019, 01:34 PM   #6
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Those MF tropical dials are rare and stunning! I think it’s just the MF dials that go tropical- at least up to now


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Old 20 February 2019, 09:21 PM   #7
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only the mk2 went tropical..

the best is the mk1 meter first...in my opinion


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Old 20 February 2019, 10:38 PM   #8
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actually the mk3 went tropical too, if you do research Mk2 and Mk3 should have been named Mk2a and Mk2b ;)

rarity is mk1 rarest, then mk3
but most appealing is of course mk2 and mk3 tropical by far, they can be magic
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Old 21 February 2019, 05:33 PM   #9
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Old 21 February 2019, 06:40 PM   #10
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the non-minute-track MK1 Submariner... of course.

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Old 21 February 2019, 10:03 PM   #11
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the non-minute-track MK1 Submariner... of course.


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Old 22 February 2019, 12:53 AM   #12
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Just thought I’d post this useful pie chart from the DRSD site here. No idea how accurate the data is to create it.




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Old 22 February 2019, 04:01 AM   #13
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the non-minute-track MK1 Submariner... of course.
Is this your watch? If legit, supposed to be one of a small number of prototypes that were given to Rolex employees
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Old 22 February 2019, 04:31 AM   #14
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not mine unfortunately...

http://www.rolexmagazine.com/2008/11...ubmariner.html
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Old 22 February 2019, 05:38 AM   #15
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In Rolex sub. vintage world, Mets meter first command a steeper price.
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Old 22 February 2019, 08:40 AM   #16
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I didn't get from the OP's question that the "tropical effect" was part of the equation, rather it was simply asked which dial version is the most desirable?
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Old 23 February 2019, 11:16 PM   #17
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Old 23 February 2019, 11:48 PM   #18
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the non-minute-track MK1 Submariner... of course.

wH@T tHE hELL!!!!

Have never seen that. Incredible, that is officially my dream watch.
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Old 24 February 2019, 02:40 AM   #19
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For me, the "the most desirable" is the best condition dial with the most pleasing visual attractiveness, whether it's crispness, color/tone, patina, etc ... All other considerations are secondary. I don't care about which "Mark" variation it is, and "meters first" is irrelevant to me unless is comes on a dial that has other stunning qualities, such as a rich patina and/or beautiful tropical fading.

Again, as with everything, dial or otherwise, it's the actual condition that determines desirability, IMHO.
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Old 27 February 2019, 08:34 PM   #20
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I always found the the mk2 and mk4 dials to have a nice vivid red text that really jumps off the dial.
Mk1,3,5,6 are substantially duller.


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Old 27 February 2019, 11:42 PM   #21
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For me, the "the most desirable" is the best condition dial with the most pleasing visual attractiveness, whether it's crispness, color/tone, patina, etc ... All other considerations are secondary. I don't care about which "Mark" variation it is, and "meters first" is irrelevant to me unless is comes on a dial that has other stunning qualities, such as a rich patina and/or beautiful tropical fading.

Again, as with everything, dial or otherwise, it's the actual condition that determines desirability, IMHO.
This makes the most sense. We should be chasing for condition than so-called desirable mk. Of course unless you plan to have a collection.
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Old 27 February 2019, 11:45 PM   #22
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actually the mk3 went tropical too, if you do research Mk2 and Mk3 should have been named Mk2a and Mk2b ;)

rarity is mk1 rarest, then mk3
but most appealing is of course mk2 and mk3 tropical by far, they can be magic
Interesting information regarding rarity of mk3. Is this purely from production numbers?
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Old 28 February 2019, 06:27 AM   #23
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That's the winner, although it's a prototype, so not really eligible.

Here's my MK1 MF:
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Old 28 February 2019, 06:44 AM   #24
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That's the winner, although it's a prototype, so not really eligible.



Here's my MK1 MF:


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Old 28 February 2019, 06:50 AM   #25
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Interesting information regarding rarity of mk3. Is this purely from production numbers?
this website groups by production number:
http://www.drsd.com/watch-info/red-sub/redsub.html

However: on the 'pie' mk2 and mk3 are grouped together, but out of that , in the wild you will see about 80% of those 2 are mk2. 4 mk2 for 1 mk3 thereabout. I collected red subs for 20 years, and mk3 are really rare, just about as rare as mk1: go ahead try and find one , whereas mk2 are out there :)

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Old 28 February 2019, 07:24 PM   #26
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Now that's a stunner! Lume looks quite a bit different on the MF and I'm not sure I usually like it, but this one is just right!

Edit: I missed the reply button, but I meant the one posted by Racer X
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Old 1 March 2019, 02:17 AM   #27
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Now that's a stunner! Lume looks quite a bit different on the MF and I'm not sure I usually like it, but this one is just right!

Edit: I missed the reply button, but I meant the one posted by Racer X
Thanks! My favorite part is you can see what almost looks like a fabric imprint on the lume. See, for example, the 11 o'clock plot. Not sure how they applied it to the dial, but it's a cool detail.
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Old 3 March 2019, 12:50 AM   #28
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the non-minute-track MK1 Submariner... of course.

My, my, my. What a watch.
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Old 3 March 2019, 02:55 AM   #29
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the one on your wrist.

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