Sky Dweller: insane wait list, hype or real?

[omon]

Hi Rolex fans,

I am new to the brand but after long study and trying it on, I have decided for the sky dweller in blue dial but I am put off by the grey prices (here in the UK starting at 16k£, going up to the low 20ks (please...). I walked in an AD and of course got laughed at, especially since Im no registered buyer (I own more modest pieces, a Panerai, a vintage Omega and a limited edition Frederique Constant). Official 11k£ price is already a big investment, for most pockets that is.

After searching the internet, I cannot find reliable information on : how much is really being produced per year? Is Rolex creating a hype of uber rare model and actually with a little patience one does manage to get it? (Even though he claimed it was really rare the AD did have the TT white dial available and had spent all morning calling his list, with no success when I walked in at 1pm). Given that the design is polarizing, does it stand good chance of keeping high grey prices or they should come off progressively as demand gets satisfied?
I read a couple of articles with guy claiming it is not selling that well, but no proof of where that information is coming from.

Mind you its a beautiful watch and at 11k available tomorrow at retail I wouldn't think twice, but it seems a bit obscene to pay grey market...unless I really have no other option to get it ever.

Patience seems wise here? Does anyone have experience to share on getting the skydweller in blue dial.

[TimingIsEverything]

Originally Posted by omon

Hi Rolex fans,

I am new to the brand but after long study and trying it on, I have decided for the sky dweller in blue dial but I am put off by the grey prices (here in the UK starting at 16k£, going up to the low 20ks (please...). I walked in an AD and of course got laughed at, especially since Im no registered buyer (I own more modest pieces, a Panerai, a vintage Omega and a limited edition Frederique Constant). Official 11k£ price is already a big investment, for most pockets that is.

After searching the internet, I cannot find reliable information on : how much is really being produced per year? Is Rolex creating a hype of uber rare model and actually with a little patience one does manage to get it? (Even though he claimed it was really rare the AD did have the TT white dial available and had spent all morning calling his list, with no success when I walked in at 1pm). Given that the design is polarizing, does it stand good chance of keeping high grey prices or they should come off progressively as demand gets satisfied?
I read a couple of articles with guy claiming it is not selling that well, but no proof of where that information is coming from.

Mind you its a beautiful watch and at 11k available tomorrow at retail I wouldn't think twice, but it seems a bit obscene to pay grey market...unless I really have no other option to get it ever.

Patience seems wise here? Does anyone have experience to share on getting the skydweller in blue dial.

No one knows how many of each model Rolex produces except Rolex. I would wait it out a bit, don't spend your hard-earned money paying a super premium on top of an already expensive piece. A bit of a premium over MSRP I can understand, but certainly not double.

Also, I think gray-market prices have hit a ceiling. A stainless steel Daytona is only a few grand less than a precious metal Daytona. Mind-blowing. This cannot continue forever if buyers stop paying obscene prices for an already overpriced, even at MSRP watch.

[T01]

Blue SkyD is the hardest Rolex to acquire from an AD period. My AD does insane volumes and they've only seen a couple since the watch was launched. Loads more Daytonas than SkyD Blue (personally have both black and white dial from said AD). I may have a shot at one soon.

[David5807]

It took me 6 long months of hunting to find my Sky-Dweller at an AD, and I can tell you from personal experience that this watch is worth the wait. However, if you can't wait then I would suggest that you pick up the TT variant, it's lovely.

Here is a picture of mine [IMG][/IMG]

[RJRJRJ]

What we do know: The Blue SkyD is very difficult to buy from an AD, and sells for a massive premium on the secondary market.

What we do not know: Anything else.

[AK797]

Market price tells you how hard these are to get, in the UK is worse than most anywhere else. Go grey or for a blue DJ.

[Pballkm21]

I went around NYC for several months asking if any are in stock. None to be seen. One day I did the same, no history at that location, but the result was different. I was asking specifically for a TT with champagne dial. This is a bit of a difference from the blue face. Got a call right after I left saying she was unpacking one while I walked in but couldn't tell me due to store policy! I walked right back over and picked it up. Been in love ever since.

[David5807]

Originally Posted by Pballkm21

I went around NYC for several months asking if any are in stock. None to be seen. One day I did the same, no history at that location, but the result was different. I was asking specifically for a TT with champagne dial. This is a bit of a difference from the blue face. Got a call right after I left saying she was unpacking one while I walked in but couldn't tell me due to store policy! I walked right back over and picked it up. Been in love ever since.

You can't go wrong with the bi-metal version, congrats on the pickup

[Pballkm21]

Originally Posted by David5807

You can't go wrong with the bi-metal version, congrats on the pickup

Thank You! She is a beauty


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[David5807]

Originally Posted by Pballkm21

Thank You! She is a beauty


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[klenboy]

Hype or not the wait is definitely real!

[enjoythemusic]

The wait is real! Decided to just go ahead and buy one from a fellow trf member. Am still waiting on my AD to deliver Pepsi requested seconds after it was announced. Getting SS SkyD blue from trf member was an excellent decision and love it! If you care about accuracy, the one here is +5 seconds... a month!

Of course you can wait, but every dealer I spoke with in America, Europe and Asia says it is the rarest of the rare. Just buy it and enjoy your time.

[Lord Hectic]

Rolex's strategy is to make people think it is impossible to purchase certain watches. It is comical.

[Fat_ninja]

Insane wait list for blue SKy dweller

[shapiroeric]

Originally Posted by Lord Hectic

Rolex's strategy is to make people think it is impossible to purchase certain watches. It is comical.

comical or not why does everyone have the same story.....

[Lord Hectic]

Originally Posted by shapiroeric

comical or not why does everyone have the same story.....

Spend over 500k a year at one AD and you'll have your watch (like my boss). When i say comical i meant it as the strategy is comical at how effectively it actions certain people to spend. My boss is an extremely smart businessman and he went crazy just to get this watch, he spent 300k in a month and got the SkyD blue dial within 2 months. Truly comical!

[ArtNouveau]

I think demand for the Skydweller is much less than for the SS Professional models. It's big, expensive, too dressy for many. That said by all accounts production seems to be lower than the more popular models, add in the hype of the blue dial and you get long delivery times and high grey price.
I have no desire for one but my reliable AD SA says they get less Skydwellers in general than just about anything outside of a Rainbow Daytona. They might have a full gold in the case most of the time, occasionally tutones, never an SS.

[David5807]

Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

I think demand for the Skydweller is much less than for the SS Professional models. It's big, expensive, too dressy for many. That said by all accounts production seems to be lower than the more popular models, add in the hype of the blue dial and you get long delivery times and high grey price.
I have no desire for one but my reliable AD SA says they get less Skydwellers in general than just about anything outside of a Rainbow Daytona. They might have a full gold in the case most of the time, occasionally tutones, never an SS.

You're correct in thinking that production is smaller for the Sky-Dweller. Only Rolex's master watchmakers work on the Sky-Dweller so understandably there are less made when compared to their other lines of watches.

[jhunter3]

Originally Posted by Lord Hectic

Spend over 500k a year at one AD and you'll have your watch (like my boss). When i say comical i meant it as the strategy is comical at how effectively it actions certain people to spend. My boss is an extremely smart businessman and he went crazy just to get this watch, he spent 300k in a month and got the SkyD blue dial within 2 months. Truly comical!

Veblen in action.

[ricardoo]

That is not a very big case !

If you want too much and doesn't want to wait , go to a grey...

[omon]

What would motivate more patience is seeing that there are a lot on offer on grey. Seems to be a lot of flippers out there. The more they are, the more likely grey converges to retail price. Let's see

[cbalster]

The Blue SkyDweller in 2019 is the Platinum YachtMaster in 1999. We will see how it ends.

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/21/s...sultPosition=1

[Greg 59]

Originally Posted by cbalster

The Blue SkyDweller in 2019 is the Platinum YachtMaster in 1999. We will see how it ends.

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/21/s...sultPosition=1

There are still wait lists for the watch 20 years later.

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[Longwool]

Originally Posted by Lord Hectic

Spend over 500k a year at one AD and you'll have your watch (like my boss). When i say comical i meant it as the strategy is comical at how effectively it actions certain people to spend. My boss is an extremely smart businessman and he went crazy just to get this watch, he spent 300k in a month and got the SkyD blue dial within 2 months. Truly comical!

He can’t be that smart at business; surely better to buy a grey one than spend 300k with the AD just to get one.

[tudorbaja27]

Originally Posted by Longwool

He can’t be that smart at business; surely better to buy a grey one than spend 300k with the AD just to get one.

[TimeOnHand]

Here in HK the wait list are long enough for your children to inherit the wait list ... but you can buy anything and everything if you want to pay double the retail price

[RTG]

They just don't make many SS Sky-Dwellers. I have been able to get every unicorn Rolex except the blue Sky-D.

[CoveWatch]

Yes that blue SkyD wait list is definitely real

Unless you're a new customer to that AD asking for a blue SkyD, then in that case the wait list becomes real hype

[dtwer]

Originally Posted by cbalster

The Blue SkyDweller in 2019 is the Platinum YachtMaster in 1999. We will see how it ends.

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/21/s...sultPosition=1

Wow, who would have thunk the YM was once the hot one!

If more people hold off on paying the grey prices, I am sure we would steer the prices back down to the real world sooner. I know, I know, I will go back to my corner and be quiet now.

[ricardoo]

Sorry but .. please do not compare Rolex’es most complicated watch , The beautiful Sky Dweller with a Yacht Master ..
I dont think that they are in the same level ...
personally me , collecting Rolex watches more then 25 years , i have many kind of Rolexes but honestly i never hunt or wanted to buy a Yacht Master ...