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halux · 30 June 2019, 06:59 PM

Hi everyone
I am going to buy a Rolex watch. But ı don’t know which to buy. I will buy gmt master 2 ör submariner date. I like both but i will buy one of them. And i must be hurry because my friend who works at Rolex dealer told me i have not got enough time. Submariner seems simple and everyone knows it. Gmt is polished steel and it shines. And gmt has more specifications. But its bezel is not liked bu me. Please any advice ...

Sandpit · 30 June 2019, 07:02 PM

Whichever you prefer the look of really. The black GMT could be harder to get as its now discontinued. Both great though and you can't really go wrong. Flip a coin if you really can't decide.

CharlesN · 30 June 2019, 07:05 PM

Welcome to the forum.

That is a choice that only YOU can really make.

I have both the Submariner date and the GMT II

The Sub date is my everyday watch and it super comfortable and has a much better clasp than the GMT II

The GMT II has the extra facility of a separate timezone display.

How much do you travel might help you decide.

But ... If you don't like the colours of the GMT II then you have answered the question for yourself.

Either watch will make you VERY happy.

Quailhunter · 30 June 2019, 07:06 PM

If you travel to different time zones, the GMT is highly useful. If you do not need the GMT function, the Submariner Date is a very nice choice.

halux · 30 June 2019, 07:14 PM

I liked the bracelet of GMT. On the second hand which one is profitable?

Quailhunter · 30 June 2019, 07:23 PM

For the person selling you the watch, both.

CharlesN · 30 June 2019, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halux

I liked the bracelet of GMT. On the second hand which one is profitable?

Why are you asking that question ?

Are you keeping the watch or selling it as soon as you buy it ?

You inferred that you had to like the watch so it was for you to keep.

A watch is not profitable until you sell it so your original question seems odd.

huba01 · 30 June 2019, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halux

I liked the bracelet of GMT. On the second hand which one is profitable?

Sandpit · 30 June 2019, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halux

I liked the bracelet of GMT. On the second hand which one is profitable?

Are you buying to wear or to flip for a profit? If the former then it doesn't matter. If the latter then i'll comment no further (and I assume many others would say the same).

halux · 30 June 2019, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesN

Why are you asking that question ?

Are you keeping the watch or selling it as soon as you buy it ?

You inferred that you had to like the watch so it was for you to keep.

A watch is not profitable until you sell it so your original question seems odd.

Of course i buy it for wearing. But as it was told the black gmt production will not be available soon. Is it good or bad for those who owns gmt?

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nachopc · 30 June 2019, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halux

I liked the bracelet of GMT. On the second hand which one is profitable?

At the moment buy a 16610 sub prices now are not as crazy as 16710...profit wise will be better if you buy now, otherwise be ready to spend 10-13k on a GMT 16710, I just did it!

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Tomas Eriksson · 30 June 2019, 08:49 PM

When in doubt, go sub.

VegasMilgauss · 30 June 2019, 09:08 PM

I have and will travel more than I will go diving so was an easy choice for me.
GMT

halux · 30 June 2019, 09:42 PM

I think ı will choose GMT .

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DolphinV8 · 30 June 2019, 10:55 PM

I prefer the GMT, but mine just broke. There’s some issue with the GMTs click spring.

Nairn1980 · 30 June 2019, 11:03 PM

As above, you really could flip a coin and be delighted with either.

If I was really pushed, I am extra fond of the GMT. Personally I find it a bit more special looking with the polished links adding some extra flash. I also think the quick set hour and GMT function really handy when you’re travelling. The GMT misses out on the Glidelock of the sub (which is great). However get the GMT fitted snug and you can pop the 5mm easylink out when needed.

I’m travelling just now and the GMT is so useful plus I’m always looking at what watches people are wearing. I’ve seen plenty of plain black subs and only one other GMT. It’s good to be a bit different.

Either way you can’t go wrong, but if really pushed I’d go GMT

vesnyder · 30 June 2019, 11:06 PM

I just went through a similar decision and decided on the GMT. Good luck!

beshannon · 30 June 2019, 11:06 PM

Which one do you like the most?

Get that one

Glad I could help

climblaw25 · 30 June 2019, 11:31 PM

Both

cdubg21 · 1 July 2019, 12:21 AM

The sub bracelet is far superior....fully brushed and glidelock is a godsend. Some people complain about clasp length on the sub but it has never bothered me, i dont notice it. The jubilee and PCL’s just dont do it for me

M45 · 1 July 2019, 12:33 AM

Do you need the added functionality of the GMT?

If not, the sub looks better.

By the way, I travel all around the world pretty much all the time with a sub no date.

subtona · 1 July 2019, 12:36 AM

Either or both.

FistFlight · 1 July 2019, 01:08 AM

Try both, if you can, before making a decision. They wear very differently.

If you’re looking for resale value, a quick search on for sale sites will give you your answer.

ras47 · 1 July 2019, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas Eriksson

When in doubt, go sub.

I second that. I'm a GMT guy myself, but it sounds like the OP prefers the Sub. Gotta get the model that truly speaks to you.

Harry-57 · 1 July 2019, 02:12 AM

I was just about to write a careful and hopefully well balanced response to the OP when I spotted this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by halux

which one is profitable?

Thank you for that. Saved me a lot of time.

HappyFish · 1 July 2019, 02:17 AM

Make a poll!

FistFlight · 1 July 2019, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry-57

I was just about to write a careful and hopefully well balanced response to the OP when I spotted this.

Thank you for that. Saved me a lot of time.

Lol

Tools · 1 July 2019, 03:13 AM

These watches are for two different purposes.

You should buy the one that is most useful to you.

halux · 2 July 2019, 04:32 PM

Thanks for comments. I buy the watch of course for wearing. And I ordered GMT Master II with black bezel.

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MindMatter · 2 July 2019, 09:05 PM

If you can only get one it sounds like maybe the sub would be the best choice

30 June 2019, 06:59 PM	#1
halux "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Turkey Posts: 5	Gmt master ii vs submariner date Hi everyone I am going to buy a Rolex watch. But ı don’t know which to buy. I will buy gmt master 2 ör submariner date. I like both but i will buy one of them. And i must be hurry because my friend who works at Rolex dealer told me i have not got enough time. Submariner seems simple and everyone knows it. Gmt is polished steel and it shines. And gmt has more specifications. But its bezel is not liked bu me. Please any advice ...

30 June 2019, 07:05 PM	#3
CharlesN "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The UK Watch: I love them all. Posts: 1,858	Welcome to the forum. That is a choice that only YOU can really make. I have both the Submariner date and the GMT II The Sub date is my everyday watch and it super comfortable and has a much better clasp than the GMT II The GMT II has the extra facility of a separate timezone display. How much do you travel might help you decide. But ... If you don't like the colours of the GMT II then you have answered the question for yourself. Either watch will make you VERY happy. __________________ Regards, CharlesN Member of the IWJG.

30 June 2019, 08:49 PM	#12
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 2,027	When in doubt, go sub. __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

30 June 2019, 11:06 PM	#18
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Which one do you like the most? Get that one Glad I could help __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

1 July 2019, 12:36 AM	#22
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,549	Either or both. __________________

30 June 2019, 07:02 PM	#2
Sandpit "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Middle East Posts: 1,808	Whichever you prefer the look of really. The black GMT could be harder to get as its now discontinued. Both great though and you can't really go wrong. Flip a coin if you really can't decide.

30 June 2019, 07:06 PM	#4
Quailhunter "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Doug Location: Georgia USA Watch: Rolex President Posts: 1,348	If you travel to different time zones, the GMT is highly useful. If you do not need the GMT function, the Submariner Date is a very nice choice.

30 June 2019, 07:14 PM	#5
halux "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Turkey Posts: 5	I liked the bracelet of GMT. On the second hand which one is profitable?

30 June 2019, 07:23 PM	#6
Quailhunter "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Doug Location: Georgia USA Watch: Rolex President Posts: 1,348	For the person selling you the watch, both.

30 June 2019, 09:08 PM	#13
VegasMilgauss "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,030	I have and will travel more than I will go diving so was an easy choice for me. GMT

30 June 2019, 09:42 PM	#14
halux "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Turkey Posts: 5	I think ı will choose GMT . Tapatalk kullanarak iPhone aracılığıyla gönderildi

30 June 2019, 10:55 PM	#15
DolphinV8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Earth Watch: 16610LV Posts: 949	I prefer the GMT, but mine just broke. There’s some issue with the GMTs click spring.

30 June 2019, 11:03 PM	#16
Nairn1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 8,385	As above, you really could flip a coin and be delighted with either. If I was really pushed, I am extra fond of the GMT. Personally I find it a bit more special looking with the polished links adding some extra flash. I also think the quick set hour and GMT function really handy when you’re travelling. The GMT misses out on the Glidelock of the sub (which is great). However get the GMT fitted snug and you can pop the 5mm easylink out when needed. I’m travelling just now and the GMT is so useful plus I’m always looking at what watches people are wearing. I’ve seen plenty of plain black subs and only one other GMT. It’s good to be a bit different. Either way you can’t go wrong, but if really pushed I’d go GMT

30 June 2019, 11:06 PM	#17
vesnyder "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: Vance Location: North Coast Watch: GMT II Posts: 1,558	I just went through a similar decision and decided on the GMT. Good luck!

30 June 2019, 11:31 PM	#19
climblaw25 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: location location Watch: too much Netflix Posts: 430	Both

1 July 2019, 12:21 AM	#20
cdubg21 Banned Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Earth Watch: 116610LV Posts: 469	The sub bracelet is far superior....fully brushed and glidelock is a godsend. Some people complain about clasp length on the sub but it has never bothered me, i dont notice it. The jubilee and PCL’s just dont do it for me

1 July 2019, 12:33 AM	#21
M45 Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: East Bay Area Posts: 551	Do you need the added functionality of the GMT? If not, the sub looks better. By the way, I travel all around the world pretty much all the time with a sub no date.

1 July 2019, 01:08 AM	#23
FistFlight Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: In flight Posts: 117	Try both, if you can, before making a decision. They wear very differently. If you’re looking for resale value, a quick search on for sale sites will give you your answer.

1 July 2019, 02:17 AM	#26
HappyFish Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Monaco Posts: 320	Make a poll!

1 July 2019, 03:13 AM	#28
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,494	These watches are for two different purposes. You should buy the one that is most useful to you. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

2 July 2019, 04:32 PM	#29
halux "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Turkey Posts: 5	Thanks for comments. I buy the watch of course for wearing. And I ordered GMT Master II with black bezel. Tapatalk kullanarak iPhone aracılığıyla gönderildi

2 July 2019, 09:05 PM	#30
MindMatter "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: USA Posts: 8	If you can only get one it sounds like maybe the sub would be the best choice

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