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Old 23 November 2019, 01:22 PM   #1
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Spring Bar Issue

So bought a two year old Cameron Deepsea 116660 today. Obviously thrilled, take it home to clean. Remove the bracelet without a problem (I use spring bar tweezers) and do my thing. 20 minutes later I try to put the bracelet back on and really struggle until I finally realize that only one end of the spring bar is compressing. Take a look at the other spring bar and neither end of that are compressing.

The watch is only two years old so it’s not a vintage piece or anything but has anyone else experienced this? Can’t figure out what would have happened in the 20 minutes where I easily removed the bracelet and then tried to put it back on. I could see if maybe one end fused or something but 3 out of 4?

I’m all ears if you have a solution but I’m guessing I just need to get new spring bars from an AD.
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Old 23 November 2019, 01:30 PM   #2
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It’s happened to me. But not on a relatively new Rolex. Their springs are ss along with the bar so it’s unlikely corrosion or rust.

Post pics of the bar and back of the watch.
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Old 23 November 2019, 01:42 PM   #3
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Spring Bar Issue

The spring bars seem to lock. I’ve experienced this- hold it in your fingers and press down on a hard surface and it will sort of pop and begin compressing again. You may need to do this to both sides. I think it’s intended to do this as a locking mechanism once it’s in place.

Note: it’s happened on brand new references for me (126710, 116500, etc), doing bracelet swaps.
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Old 23 November 2019, 01:51 PM   #4
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Got to be locked or something as I just tried it again and now all FOUR of them don’t budge. I’m pushing fairly hard (don’t want to bend them) on a stone surface and they don’t move at all. Very frustrating indeed.
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Old 23 November 2019, 01:59 PM   #5
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Got to be locked or something as I just tried it again and now all FOUR of them don’t budge. I’m pushing fairly hard (don’t want to bend them) on a stone surface and they don’t move at all. Very frustrating indeed.

I’ve never bent one, but I have experienced this. Hold the spring bar near the middle, between your fingers, and press straight down. Should pop and begin flexing/compressing.
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Old 23 November 2019, 02:17 PM   #6
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Here’s a pic, the spring bars look brand new. Trying your suggestion but no luck, obviously I’m missing something as they shouldn’t all be locked (and one of them was fine a few minutes ago).
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Old 23 November 2019, 03:21 PM   #7
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I once had a springbar from a 90s sub lock up. I put it in a makeshift aluminum foil cup to soak in WD-40 overnight. It worked like a charm.

I've also locked up springbars by bending them. No solution there.

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Old 23 November 2019, 03:44 PM   #8
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Figured it out. Putting them back in the bracelet in a specific way unlocked them. Crisis averted, I won’t be taking it off again anytime soon!
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Old 23 November 2019, 03:54 PM   #9
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How exactly did you unlock them?
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Old 23 November 2019, 09:09 PM   #10
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Soak in warm oil for 20 minutes or so, then work the springbar 10 or 15 times. Then let soak another 20 minutes, work the springbacks 10 to 15 times. Clean and reinstall.
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Old 23 November 2019, 10:02 PM   #11
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Figured it out. Putting them back in the bracelet in a specific way unlocked them. Crisis averted, I won’t be taking it off again anytime soon!
What did you do?
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Old 23 November 2019, 10:52 PM   #12
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Figured it out. Putting them back in the bracelet in a specific way unlocked them. Crisis averted, I won’t be taking it off again anytime soon!

You must have have been able to somehow compress them while they were out of the bracelet in order to reinstall it.

Maybe they have some grit inside and the “crisis” will resurface in the future - or your original method with the tweezers was imprecise.

If it was just the tweezers causing a problem, you might practice using an easier method. Perhaps with a simple springbar forked tool you will have no problems in the future.


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Old 23 November 2019, 11:29 PM   #13
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I have had this happen all the time on various spring-bars (DJ, Subs, Daytona, SkyD). I believe this is normal.

What I do it, that I place the 'locked' side down on a tray or soft cloth and push down and continue doing so once the 'locked' side 'unlocks'.

Just don't use any tools pushing down or trying to unlock the bar as this might damage it, own weight is fine.
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Old 24 November 2019, 05:45 AM   #14
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Not sure if the bracelet is designed to ‘release’ the lock if the spring bar is inserted in a specific way but that’s what appears to have happened. Pretty cool if that’s true, gives me more confidence in the spring bar not breaking, especially with a big heavy piece like the Deepsea.
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Old 24 November 2019, 04:06 PM   #15
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You can also get a set of spring bars from Everest for the 116660 for $25 or so. They’re made to OEM specs, and are nice. You could also call an AD, but Everest is cheap and high quality with fast shipping.
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I still don't understand what makes the springbar lock???
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Old 25 November 2019, 09:20 PM   #17
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You can also get a set of spring bars from Everest for the 116660 for $25 or so. They’re made to OEM specs, and are nice. You could also call an AD, but Everest is cheap and high quality with fast shipping.
$25 is not cheap when genuine Rolex spring bars cost about $8/pair
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I still don't understand what makes the springbar lock???
It’s pretty common with Rolex bars.

If the spring bar is allowed to ping open, the moveable pin ‘overextends’ itself just a little, but enough that the friction required to overcome it is fairly high.

It is easily rectified by pressing the spring bar downwards on to a solid surface. It will ‘click’ and then resume regular function.
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It’s pretty common with Rolex bars.

If the spring bar is allowed to ping open, the moveable pin ‘overextends’ itself just a little, but enough that the friction required to overcome it is fairly high.

It is easily rectified by pressing the spring bar downwards on to a solid surface. It will ‘click’ and then resume regular function.
Thanks Scott, glad to have you here
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It’s pretty common with Rolex bars.

If the spring bar is allowed to ping open, the moveable pin ‘overextends’ itself just a little, but enough that the friction required to overcome it is fairly high.

It is easily rectified by pressing the spring bar downwards on to a solid surface. It will ‘click’ and then resume regular function.
Thanks. Good info.
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Old 25 November 2019, 11:20 PM   #21
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I have this happen a lot with my 2-year old Sub. I put them between the thick part of the tweezers and squeeze both side a few times until the bar comes unlocked. This is pretty frustrating though and I am sure that it has led to me scratching the hell out of my lugs.


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$25 is not cheap when genuine Rolex spring bars cost about $8/pair
How about gold ones? Bet they are a bit more than that. I have a 116618LB
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How about gold ones? Bet they are a bit more than that. I have a 116618LB
Would be around $100 for 18ct spring bars.
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