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SpeakWithMichael · 8 December 2019, 09:44 PM

Why is it (or why do you think) that the jump from SS to TT in most every Rolex model line is more expensive in comparison than the same jump in the SkyDweller line?

These are Spain prices in Euros:

SS YM-II ... 17250
TT YM-II ... 23300 (+6050)

SS Sub Date in black ... 7850
TT Sub Date in black ... 12450 (+4600)

SS GMT BLNR ... 8550
TT GMT CHNR ... 13000 (+4450)

SS SeaDweller ... 10450
TT SeaDweller ... 14850 (+4400)

SS Daytona ... 11400
TT Daytona ... 15600 (+4200)

SS Datejust Fluted Jubilee ... 8750
TT Datejust Fluted Jubilee ... 11750 (+3000)

SS SkyD ... 13250
TT SkyD ... 15750 (+2500)

locutus49 · 8 December 2019, 11:11 PM

Interesting. I don't know.

Fire bloke · 9 December 2019, 01:04 AM

Wow goes to show

BisonHead · 9 December 2019, 01:08 AM

Interesting that, great comparison.

liu_watch · 9 December 2019, 01:11 AM

Newest kid on the block and the worst seller (among listed)?

NorthWest · 9 December 2019, 01:15 AM

Probably due to the fact that the SS SkyDweller comes as standard with an 18ct white gold bezel.

ganiccus · 9 December 2019, 01:22 AM

The case of the 'SS' Skydweller is made from an alloy of white gold and 904 stainless steel called Rolesor, so it's not really a 'SS' model. So the extra you pay for the TT is pretty much just for the gold PCLs on the bracelet.

NorthWest · 9 December 2019, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganiccus

The case of the 'SS' Skydweller is made from an alloy of white gold and 904 stainless steel called Rolesor, so it's not really a 'SS' model. So the extra you pay for the TT is pretty much just for the gold PCLs on the bracelet.

That is not factually accurate. The case is 904 stainless steel and the winding crown and bezel are 18ct white gold. It is that combination that Rolex call Rolesor rather than it being an alloy of the two. Generally speaking any TT is Rolesor whereby the bezel, winding crown and the PCLs become 18ct gold. The SS SkyDweller is really a white Rolesor version but with stainless steel PCLs and the TT (yellow Rolesor version) simply changes the winding crown and bezel from white to yellow gold with the main cost difference being attributed to the PCLs which are upgraded from stainless steel to 18ct yellow gold.

klenboy · 9 December 2019, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorthWest

the winding crown [is] 18ct white gold

The winding crown is steel as well. The Twin Lock symbol on the crown is a straight line “-“ rather than two dots “..”

logo · 9 December 2019, 02:14 AM

The SkyD and datejust (as you’ve described it) both have a white gold bezel so the added cost is just for the bracelet really - makes sense that this would be lower overall for these two. Better DJ comparison is the SS smooth bezel to TT. By gold content, I would suspect it goes SkyD > DJ41 = YM1 = Daytona > YM2 > SD > sub/GMT.

I think anything with a ceramic bezel will have less gold total since the ceramic insert occupies most of the space of the bezel, and the gold is just trim to hold it in place.

Tridor · 9 December 2019, 03:19 AM

I think it's a classic case of supply and demand. The SkyDweller is not a popular model ... certainly not as popular as the others on the list. Accordingly, it makes sense that the upcharge for TT would be less than on other, more in demand models.

omx5o · 9 December 2019, 03:21 AM

Because a lot of the added value is in the annual calendar movement rather than the metal option.

NorthWest · 9 December 2019, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klenboy

The winding crown is steel as well. The Twin Lock symbol on the crown is a straight line “-“ rather than two dots “..”

I stand corrected.

nick_s_g · 9 December 2019, 04:20 AM

Now do full gold please

Calatrava r · 9 December 2019, 04:44 AM

The answer is "because they can"

bay-dweller · 9 December 2019, 02:57 PM

Great question.
Makes the TT YM2 look like a terrible value!

Andad · 9 December 2019, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganiccus

The case of the 'SS' Skydweller is made from an alloy of white gold and 904 stainless steel called Rolesor, so it's not really a 'SS' model. So the extra you pay for the TT is pretty much just for the gold PCLs on the bracelet.

Rolesor is just TT.

There is no alloy of stainless steel and gold.

SpeakWithMichael · 9 December 2019, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_s_g

Now do full gold please

I already did back in August. Check it out: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=690327

fskywalker · 9 December 2019, 07:18 PM

Great data, thanks for sharing!

8 December 2019, 09:44 PM	#1
SpeakWithMichael "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Jacksonville, FL Watch: Superocean 44not42 Posts: 1,756	Jump to TT, cheapest with the SkyDweller Why is it (or why do you think) that the jump from SS to TT in most every Rolex model line is more expensive in comparison than the same jump in the SkyDweller line? These are Spain prices in Euros: SS YM-II ... 17250 TT YM-II ... 23300 (+6050) SS Sub Date in black ... 7850 TT Sub Date in black ... 12450 (+4600) SS GMT BLNR ... 8550 TT GMT CHNR ... 13000 (+4450) SS SeaDweller ... 10450 TT SeaDweller ... 14850 (+4400) SS Daytona ... 11400 TT Daytona ... 15600 (+4200) SS Datejust Fluted Jubilee ... 8750 TT Datejust Fluted Jubilee ... 11750 (+3000) SS SkyD ... 13250 TT SkyD ... 15750 (+2500)

9 December 2019, 07:18 PM	#19
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,153	Great data, thanks for sharing! __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

8 December 2019, 11:11 PM	#2
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	Interesting. I don't know.

9 December 2019, 01:04 AM	#3
Fire bloke Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 329	Wow goes to show

9 December 2019, 01:08 AM	#4
BisonHead "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: UK Watch: Sub,SD,DJ,OP Posts: 1,950	Interesting that, great comparison.

9 December 2019, 01:11 AM	#5
liu_watch "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: FL Posts: 667	Newest kid on the block and the worst seller (among listed)?

9 December 2019, 01:15 AM	#6
NorthWest "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: North West UK Posts: 9	Probably due to the fact that the SS SkyDweller comes as standard with an 18ct white gold bezel.

9 December 2019, 01:22 AM	#7
ganiccus Banned Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: QC, CA Watch: Exp II Posts: 457	The case of the 'SS' Skydweller is made from an alloy of white gold and 904 stainless steel called Rolesor, so it's not really a 'SS' model. So the extra you pay for the TT is pretty much just for the gold PCLs on the bracelet.

9 December 2019, 02:14 AM	#10
logo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North America Posts: 2,348	The SkyD and datejust (as you’ve described it) both have a white gold bezel so the added cost is just for the bracelet really - makes sense that this would be lower overall for these two. Better DJ comparison is the SS smooth bezel to TT. By gold content, I would suspect it goes SkyD > DJ41 = YM1 = Daytona > YM2 > SD > sub/GMT. I think anything with a ceramic bezel will have less gold total since the ceramic insert occupies most of the space of the bezel, and the gold is just trim to hold it in place.

9 December 2019, 03:19 AM	#11
Tridor "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Ozone Watch: DD, DJ, SubC Date Posts: 1,666	I think it's a classic case of supply and demand. The SkyDweller is not a popular model ... certainly not as popular as the others on the list. Accordingly, it makes sense that the upcharge for TT would be less than on other, more in demand models.

9 December 2019, 03:21 AM	#12
omx5o "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: UK Watch: Tudor Ranger Posts: 1,613	Because a lot of the added value is in the annual calendar movement rather than the metal option.

9 December 2019, 04:20 AM	#14
nick_s_g "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NYC Posts: 61	Now do full gold please

9 December 2019, 04:44 AM	#15
Calatrava r 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 11,328	The answer is "because they can"

9 December 2019, 02:57 PM	#16
bay-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: CA-USA Posts: 258	Great question. Makes the TT YM2 look like a terrible value!

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