Officer down spam

[tadbart]

Stop spamming this forum with job hazard threads and shutting down threads on stuff that most likely will not result in officer down threads.

As an ER Nurse Practitioner, I work closely with my local LE, but pushing one's own agenda while locking threads that may hurt one's personal bottom is getting old.

I've been swung at and hit, swung at and missed, slung blood on, been stuck with nasty needles. I'm not starting a thread on it every day.

less agenda, more objective.

[Brew]

Just don't click on what you don't like, Ken. easy

Others like the threads. It's kinda part of forum culture. Not just here, I've noticed.

[swils8610]

Uh are you serious? Don’t click on what you don’t want to read. Good luck...


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[crew]

Couldn’t disagree more, and I say that as someone who appreciates the work that you do.
“Less agenda”? Seems like you have your own.

[V25V]

What is wrong with acknowledging the service and ultimate price paid by a police officer? Not to mention bring to light the real world in which these officers live, which much of the media does not want to show, as to push their agenda. I like that Tim posts these threads and if you do not, just do not open them.

[DoxaDavid]

Originally Posted by Brew

Just don't click on what you don't like, Ken. easy

Others like the threads. It's kinda part of forum culture. Not just here, I've noticed.

Sorry but I kind of agree with Ken on this. My sympathies go out to the fallen blue and I am a big suporter of them but it’s not appropriate to use the forum to post every loss of a LEO nationwide. This is primarily a watch forum and I’m sure there are other forums better suited for such posts.

Again, reiterating my support for the men and women in law enforcement. Blue lives matter!

[Brew]

Originally Posted by DoxaDavid

Sorry but I kind of agree with Ken on this. My sympathies go out to the fallen blue and I am a big suporter of them but it’s not appropriate to use the forum to post every loss of a LEO nationwide. This is primarily a watch forum and I’m sure there are other forums better suited for such posts.

Again, reiterating my support for the men and women in law enforcement. Blue lives matter!

This place would not be as fun for me, if all I got to know was what you think about watches, regardless of whether or not I agree with Ken.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by DoxaDavid

Sorry but I kind of agree with Ken on this. My sympathies go out to the fallen blue and I am a big suporter of them but it’s not appropriate to use the forum to post every loss of a LEO nationwide. This is primarily a watch forum and I’m sure there are other forums better suited for such posts.

Again, reiterating my support for the men and women in law enforcement. Blue lives matter!

It's posted in the "Open Forum" which means it's open for any topic within the forum rules. Perfectly fine to post that certain topic, and as others have said you don't like it don't click it...

[crew]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

It's posted in the "Open Forum" which means it's open for any topic within the forum rules. Perfectly fine to post that certain topic, and as others have said you don't like it don't click it...

Yep.

[BBL]

Ken, Goodmorning. I have worked in a similar environment as you.

Not to worry, I expect that someone will be here shortly to address your concerns.

In the meantime, I will continue to have deep gratitude and appreciation for the men and women who put on a "service" uniform everyday to help keep us safe, knowing that there may not be another day for them to hug their loved ones and occupy a chair at the family dinner table. Being given an opportunity to send a prayer to someone who has experienced loss, whether the victim or remaining loved ones, friends, colleagues, is akin to paying forward, which is what I think some of us elect to do. You don't have to.

[daveathall]

I find that the "Officer down" threads are well signed and could not be misinterpreted to mean anything else. Those that are interested click, those that aren't, don't click and scroll on by.

[Tony64]

I completely agree with the OP in one respect - I wish that our men and women in LE and their families would never need to experience such enormous sacrifice. It would be great to be able to put an end to all these "officer down" posts, but until society embraces civility these reminders are painful and poignant reflections of the world we live in and testimony to the unwavering commitment of the heroes who provide our protection.

[DoxaDavid]

Originally Posted by Brew

This place would not be as fun for me, if all I got to know was what you think about watches, regardless of whether or not I agree with Ken.

I wasn't suggesting the OPEN forum only be regulated to watch topics. I’m torn as to what my opinion is as to what’s appropriate to this topic?

One if my close friends is a fire chief. Firemen lose their lives everyday tragically. Would it be Ok if I posted every loss nationally daily? Is posting one loss appropriate but a hundred not? It is a tough subject and obviously one Tim is passionate about which is understandable.

As it is, it doesn’t matter what my or anyone eles’s opinion is on the subject. Tim is a MOD and may do as he pleases.

[mannyv11]

Just don't click on em problem solved.

[DoxaDavid]

Originally Posted by Tony64

I completely agree with the OP in one respect - I wish that our men and women in LE and their families would never need to experience such enormous sacrifice. It would be great to be able to put an end to all these "officer down" posts, but until society embraces civility these reminders are painful and poignant reflections of the world we live in and testimony to the unwavering commitment of the heroes who provide our protection.

Amen to that and well said.

[locutus49]

I strongly disagree. As someone who spent 21 years in the military, I appreciate and want to know, the sacrifice of these officers to protect the citizenry. I am very sensitive to political agendas and I see no political agenda in the Officer Down threads.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by tadbart

Stop spamming this forum with job hazard threads and shutting down threads on stuff that most likely will not result in officer down threads.

As an ER Nurse Practitioner, I work closely with my local LE, but pushing one's own agenda while locking threads that may hurt one's personal bottom is getting old.

I've been swung at and hit, swung at and missed, slung blood on, been stuck with nasty needles. I'm not starting a thread on it every day.

less agenda, more objective.

But have you been killed yet?

[dtwer]

If you don't like certain threads then just don't click, it's that simple. Similarly if you would like to start threads about your close call experiences as medical personnel I am sure people would welcome them no problem. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[DoxaDavid]

Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

But have you been killed yet?

That friend crossed the line IMHO and not ok.


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[McLovin]

One of these officer down posts painted my area as a place where thugs are roaming the streets shooting LE. But in fact it was a suicide.

[Knappo 1307]

Originally Posted by DoxaDavid

That friend crossed the line IMHO and not ok.


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Please explain? The officer down threads are referring to LE whom have died in the line of duty. The OP is tired of hearing about it, because he's been hit, slapped, poked with dirty needles at his job. But he is still here to complain on the internet about such threads, yet the people who are the focus of officer down threads are not here to complain. Where have I crossed the line?

[GB-man]

This topic has already been broached and the answer from two mods Tim and Welschwatchman was that a moderator can post whatever they want regardless of whether it complies with the rules of TRF.

The only other rule you need to know is all mod decisions are final. So best to move on as I have.

[Blansky]

There a a number of retired Police Officers here so the OPs remarks will fall on deaf ears.

I respect the difficult job that police officers do but we won't often find the threads here about the killings that the police do, reported on this site, which is fine. So for me although I have an opinion on the matter I let the people show their respect for the police and move on.

I play hockey with at least 7 LE people and my neighbor across the street is a LE officer so I have no axe to grind here.

We all have our opinion and our rights to them.

And I have ZERO desire to own a Rolex Daytona so I stay out of those conversations as well.

[SaddleSC]

I do agree with the OP insofar as it feels very agenda-driven because the person posting these threads is both a former LEO and also a moderator. If we were to give equal weight to the deaths in other hazardous service-based occupations, like firefighting, military, etc., then the entire Open Discussion Forum would be nothing more than one long obituary.

I think, at some level, people come to forums like TRF to escape the harsh realities of the world we live in and just to enjoy a few minutes every day focusing on the lighter side of life. When a large number of posts are just constant "officer down" threads, it almost has the opposite effect than is intended by de-sensitizing a person to it.

Perhaps a good compromise would be to post once per week with a listing of the fallen officers that week rather than constantly barraging the Open Discussion Forum on a daily basis. Either that or we should also be posting individual threads for every fallen military service member and every fallen firefighter, whose deaths are equally as tragic and deserving of an equal level of respect.

[Noonan]

Originally Posted by SaddleSC

I do agree with the OP insofar as it feels very agenda-driven because the person posting these threads is both a former LEO and also a moderator. If we were to give equal weight to the deaths in other hazardous service-based occupations, like firefighting, military, etc., then the entire Open Discussion Forum would be nothing more than one long obituary.

I think, at some level, people come to forums like TRF to escape the harsh realities of the world we live in and just to enjoy a few minutes every day focusing on the lighter side of life. When a large number of posts are just constant "officer down" threads, it almost has the opposite effect than is intended by de-sensitizing a person to it.

Perhaps a good compromise would be to post once per week with a listing of the fallen officers that week rather than constantly barraging the Open Discussion Forum on a daily basis. Either that or we should also be posting individual threads for every fallen military service member and every fallen firefighter, whose deaths are equally as tragic and deserving of an equal level of respect.

Well said. I very much like that this forum is politics-free. I know I won't be blasted with political threads when I visit.

Maybe keep one running thread that gets updated as needed rather than a new thread each time?

[LandWatch]

Personally, I don’t really mind either way.

However, this is an international forum and these threads are only for American police as far as I can see. What about other countries? What about the military? Don’t they matter?

If all nations posted as the US there would be nothing else on the forum!

[joli160]

These threads always make me feel humble and thoughtful of people putting their lives at stake professionally for the greater interest of the public.

It is a very respectful thing to post an in memoriam. That you even criticise this I can't understand at all

[dnpina]

If the agenda is support of our law enforcement officers , firefighters and public servants that die in service of fellow citizens, then I do not see that as politics or anything objectionable. Yesterday a Texas police woman died in service to her city. She'll be missed by her family, her kids and coworkers.

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[Burlington]

Healthy debate is fine of course but I don’t think this thread approaches it quite as respectfully as it should be done.

Each of those threads represent a terrible tragedy for the officer involved and their family left behind.

If anyone wishes to pay their respects that way to anyone, then it’s up to them to do so. Nothing is stopping anyone from doing similar for whatever group of people they wish.


It pains me to read the threads at the loss of life, so honestly sometimes I don’t, and if anyone wishes to scroll past them they can do that too.

[BigBoy17]

Originally Posted by dnpina

If the agenda is support of our law enforcement officers , firefighters and public servants that die in service of fellow citizens, then I do not see that as politics or anything objectionable. Yesterday a Texas police woman died in service to her city. She'll be missed by her family, her kids and coworkers.

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x100. There are many active and retired LEOs on this forum. If you have a problem with these posts, which shed light on the people that risk and give there lives to provide you the freedom in which you can enjoy your everyday life,.... then there a saying that goes something like.... “stick it.... where the sun...doesnt....(insert word here)”