Thinking of 4100 - Is my logic faulty?

[Arogue]

Hey guys!

I've been looking in to vintage Royal Oaks for a few months now for a few reasons.

First, I have a 7 inch wrist and like wearing 36mm watches. I hate crowns that dig in to my list and thought my 36mm date just was the perfect size.

Second, I love the two toned examples. I know that's an unpopular opinion, but I think it looks great on that design.

And last, I love the thin profile.

So I looked at 4100's and 14790's. With these I know it's about buying the seller essentially. However I see lots on Chrono in Europe that have been serviced by their own watchmakers.

I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on a 14790 hoping service has been done correctly etc.

I was thinking of picking up a 4100 on the lower end of the range, not perfect but with warranty from the seller. Of course I do this knowing that when I send it in the movement will be replaced, possibly dial and hands, refinishing etc. The bonus to that is when that happens I essentially get a new that I now know the history of. The cost of a cheaper 4100 plus the service should be similar to a nicer example where I'm still unsure of the service. And I would get to wear it a year or two before that service hopefully.

Anyway, if you see any reasons why this doesn't make sense, I'd love to hear it. I'm new at the royal oak thing.

Happy New Year!

[tonupbklyn]

highly recommend the 4100 in TT!

[Arogue]

Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

highly recommend the 4100 in TT!

Looks fantastic! Can I ask what size wrist you've got? And have you had to do any service on it?

[tonupbklyn]

same as yours, 7in.
yes, has been serviced with full spa treatment at AP.

[Arogue]

Originally Posted by tonupbklyn

same as yours, 7in.
yes, has been serviced with full spa treatment at AP.

PM’d

[watch_my_six]

Originally Posted by Arogue

Hey guys!

I've been looking in to vintage Royal Oaks for a few months now for a few reasons.

First, I have a 7 inch wrist and like wearing 36mm watches. I hate crowns that dig in to my list and thought my 36mm date just was the perfect size.

Second, I love the two toned examples. I know that's an unpopular opinion, but I think it looks great on that design.

And last, I love the thin profile.

So I looked at 4100's and 14790's. With these I know it's about buying the seller essentially. However I see lots on Chrono in Europe that have been serviced by their own watchmakers.

I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on a 14790 hoping service has been done correctly etc.

I was thinking of picking up a 4100 on the lower end of the range, not perfect but with warranty from the seller. Of course I do this knowing that when I send it in the movement will be replaced, possibly dial and hands, refinishing etc. The bonus to that is when that happens I essentially get a new that I now know the history of. The cost of a cheaper 4100 plus the service should be similar to a nicer example where I'm still unsure of the service. And I would get to wear it a year or two before that service hopefully.

Anyway, if you see any reasons why this doesn't make sense, I'd love to hear it. I'm new at the royal oak thing.

Happy New Year!

How come the movement would be replaced?

[SconnieBT]

How well does AP refinish these cases? Are they adding material where the crisp line angles have been lost? Or just polishing?
I'm intrigued by your idea of picking up one on the lower end and saving the expense for the service. It seems they will replace the movement and the crown if this happens. I guess the crown has to be replaced to accommodate the new movement.
What do you think replacing the movement does for the value and collectibility of these watches long term?
Do you see it as an inevitability given AP seems very liberal in replacing them as they come in for service? Or do you think the examples with original 2123 movements will be more collectible and hold value stronger?

[draken1]

14700 is much better

[messikens]

Originally Posted by SconnieBT

How well does AP refinish these cases? Are they adding material where the crisp line angles have been lost? Or just polishing?
I'm intrigued by your idea of picking up one on the lower end and saving the expense for the service. It seems they will replace the movement and the crown if this happens. I guess the crown has to be replaced to accommodate the new movement.
What do you think replacing the movement does for the value and collectibility of these watches long term?
Do you see it as an inevitability given AP seems very liberal in replacing them as they come in for service? Or do you think the examples with original 2123 movements will be more collectible and hold value stronger?

Personally I think we need more 14790 zombie threads all revived at once by SconnieBT

[Il-Re]

is the 4100 also 36mm? I've seen some places list it as 35mm. The 14790 is always stated to be 36mm.

[nazarian]

Originally Posted by Il-Re

is the 4100 also 36mm? I've seen some places list it as 35mm. The 14790 is always stated to be 36mm.

pretty sure they are 35.5mm