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JBowen2 · 11 February 2020, 03:13 PM

Another “what to buy” thread I know

Looking to spend $6-8k, new or second hand. Mostly considering Explorer 1 39mm or a SubC 114060 (date is a bit too much $) Both have pros and cons.

Question is, what would you buy? $6-8k in the market on a main piece, go anywhere watch?

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Danny83 · 11 February 2020, 03:15 PM

From the AD? I say a Sub

interestedwatcher · 11 February 2020, 03:15 PM

What about an Explorer II?

Sandpit · 11 February 2020, 03:20 PM

I feel the Explorer is somewhat more versatile for every day life and would be the better option as a “one watch” collection. It would be perfect for office duties as well as weekend duties - maybe not extreme sports though.

The Sub on the other hand obviously leans more toward the sporty side. Perfectly suitable for the office but (for me) not really correct for wearing with a suit so I think I would want a second dressier option for suit days. You may not have this issue though.

It’s a close call and they’re both icons. I do love the case shape of the Explorer more than the sub but the Explorer is a much plainer piece. It’s definitely more under the radar.

Given the option, I’d go sub if it fits your idea of day to day life. Ultimately though, as a 2 piece collection these two together would be amazing.

seasubmariner · 11 February 2020, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JBowen2

Another “what to buy” thread I know

Looking to spend $6-8k, new or second hand. Mostly considering Explorer 1 39mm or a SubC 114060 (date is a bit too much $) Both have pros and cons.

Question is, what would you buy? $6-8k in the market on a main piece, go anywhere watch?

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If you like Sub Date then pay extra and choose Sub Date. Buying the non date only because its cheaper will not make you save any money as it will go cheaper, harder to sell and wont keep its value as good as sub date.

Be careful with the factory inaccurarices of explorer 1 before buying.

Oldfellow · 11 February 2020, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seasubmariner

If you like Sub Date then pay extra and choose Sub Date. Buying the non date only because its cheaper will not make you save any money as it will go cheaper, harder to sell and wont keep its value as good as sub date.

Be careful with the factory inaccurarices of explorer 1 before buying.

What factory inaccuracies are you referring to please.

htc8p · 11 February 2020, 05:20 PM

just go with the iconic rolex sub. no date is better than date. be warned sometimes rolex can get boring

Verdi · 11 February 2020, 06:56 PM

Brand new E1.

Doc Savage · 11 February 2020, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seasubmariner

...Be careful with the factory inaccurarices of explorer 1 before buying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldfellow

What factory inaccuracies are you referring to please.

Yes, do tell, please.

PepsiBezel · 11 February 2020, 08:59 PM

Buy what you like best. For me, I like the bezel and would go with the Sub. I love my 114060.

VegasMilgauss · 11 February 2020, 09:15 PM

Land or Sea?, Explorer vs Submariner? Both are amazing and you genuinely can’t go wrong. I would go Explorer at this moment in your life as it’s easier to build a future collection around - so many options for the submariner going forward (TT, green, black, PM). Plus who knows what Basel will bring...

Good luck however you choose to proceed

seasubmariner · 11 February 2020, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldfellow

What factory inaccuracies are you referring to please.

Please check the other threads the small crown logo bottom hole on the dial.

There are also ones with scratches hands on the net which look disgusting.

Sorry but not all models are same quality. You can not expect a Sub GMT or Daytona quality on an Explorer. High prices, long waiting lists have reasons...Realities of painful life.

Even Sub Gmt and others will have very minimal inaccuracies under magnification, but you shouldnt be able to see from a distance, if you notice then thats a big headache.

trfChris · 11 February 2020, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seasubmariner

Sorry but not all models are same quality. You can not expect a Sub GMT or Daytona quality on an Explorer. High prices, long waiting lists have reasons...Realities of painful life.

So the Rolex manufacturing process has better QC for the current hype-beast models than for the rest of the lineup? That’s.... quite the theory.

Verdi · 11 February 2020, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seasubmariner

Sorry but not all models are same quality. You can not expect a Sub GMT or Daytona quality on an Explorer. High prices, long waiting lists have reasons...Realities of painful life.
.

That is incorrect!

I had/have Sub, Explorer 2, DJ, E1... and they all had the same built quality!

ThatExplorer · 12 February 2020, 12:03 AM

EX2 all day.

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Doc Savage · 12 February 2020, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seasubmariner

Please check the other threads the small crown logo bottom hole on the dial.

There are also ones with scratches hands on the net which look disgusting.

Sorry but not all models are same quality. You can not expect a Sub GMT or Daytona quality on an Explorer. High prices, long waiting lists have reasons...Realities of painful life.

Even Sub Gmt and others will have very minimal inaccuracies under magnification, but you shouldnt be able to see from a distance, if you notice then thats a big headache.

This makes no sense to me. The Subs and GMTs have minor issues too. I've not seen anything to indicate the Explorer I has significantly more issues.

seasubmariner · 12 February 2020, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verdi

That is incorrect!

I had/have Sub, Explorer 2, DJ, E1... and they all had the same built quality!

Check the other thread with the crown issue. Check youtube for and you will see the one with scratched dial and hands...

JBowen2 · 12 February 2020, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatExplorer

EX2 all day.

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This one is creeping up on me too...although the price explosion the last 4 years on this one hurts me to think about lol still a great one though

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Verdi · 12 February 2020, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seasubmariner

Check the other thread with the crown issue. Check youtube for and you will see the one with scratched dial and hands...

I do not have to. I speak out of my own experience not others.

Having said that, faults can be found on any model. Exceptions don't make the rule!

frank4242 · 12 February 2020, 01:16 AM

I believe a particular you admire... just go for it..

But go with the iconic rolex sub. you will love it

Nikrnic · 12 February 2020, 01:58 AM

In that price range of 6-8k I'd be looking for a 14060M.

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DoubleJG · 12 February 2020, 02:27 AM

Between the two, I would go with the sub.

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Eagles4133 · 12 February 2020, 03:08 AM

Explorer I for a great all-arounder! If it's your "only watch" the Explorer makes a lot of sense. It can fit under a tight dress shirt sleeve and is tough enough to go anywhere. I chose my Explorer I over a Sub for that very reason. I had a thought that I would pick up a Sub-No Date eventually (but that was when cases were filled with them). Now I am waiting around like everyone else.

Mandy01 · 12 February 2020, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryFlashman

Buy what you like best. For me, I like the bezel and would go with the Sub. I love my 114060.

me too, I love my 114060 and would take over the Explorer and basically every other Rolex, except perhaps the Daytona

mmalek1 · 12 February 2020, 03:16 AM

I am a big fan of my explorer. It basically holds all my wrist time. It took me years to realize that the is explorer is my perfect watch. I recently picked up a 116610LN, sized it and brought it home, however, it is still sitting in the box because I keep going for my explorer.

t65tampa · 12 February 2020, 03:17 AM

Save a bit more money and buy a 116610. I like the date function on the Submariner.

jitdc · 12 February 2020, 03:29 AM

Explorer for the win!

Really, buy what you like. As others have said its a great first Rolex, and you can build a collection around it. Not sure what the quality comments are about... its a Rolex. They make them all to their standards. I haven't seen any issues. Besides its not like they are built in some far off factory by new hire watch makers and just because its a few $K less they just slap parts together. Its an excellent watch. Both are.

JBowen2 · 12 February 2020, 03:47 AM

Good to see this crowd is as split as I am!

I love both...probably the sub slightly more (been a fan of it longer) but the explorer is more versatile and honestly can do it all

Such a hard (first world problem) choice!

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RyanJ · 12 February 2020, 04:23 AM

The Explorer is way more versatile. It also looks amazing on virtually any strap.

Honestly you could buy both and have a duo that would last a lifetime.

TopDog2315 · 12 February 2020, 07:42 AM

Submariner for me! Mind you both are incredible : )

The above bs about the explorer being inferior is just that bs.... in my opinion.

Cheers

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11 February 2020, 03:13 PM	#1
JBowen2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Oregon Posts: 115	$6-8k - Sub, Explorer or ? Another “what to buy” thread I know Looking to spend $6-8k, new or second hand. Mostly considering Explorer 1 39mm or a SubC 114060 (date is a bit too much $) Both have pros and cons. Question is, what would you buy? $6-8k in the market on a main piece, go anywhere watch? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 February 2020, 06:56 PM	#8
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	Brand new E1. __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

12 February 2020, 12:03 AM	#15
ThatExplorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Real Name: Cory Location: US Watch: 114060 Posts: 652	EX2 all day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -------------------------------------------------------------- 116610-214270-116710-113700-114300-M79380RB-Zodiac GR

12 February 2020, 03:16 AM	#25
mmalek1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Matt Location: Virginia Watch: This one. Posts: 1,763	$6-8k - Sub, Explorer or ? I am a big fan of my explorer. It basically holds all my wrist time. It took me years to realize that the is explorer is my perfect watch. I recently picked up a 116610LN, sized it and brought it home, however, it is still sitting in the box because I keep going for my explorer. __________________ ♛16610LV, ♛116710BLNR, ♛214270, ♛116610LN, ♛216570, ♛116900, ♛16600, ΩWorldtimer, ΩSpeedmaster Silver Snoopy 45th and 50th, ΩSpeedmaster ST1, ΩCK859, Seiko Alpinist SPB089, Casio Oceanus S100, Ball DM1020

12 February 2020, 03:17 AM	#26
t65tampa 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,319	Save a bit more money and buy a 116610. I like the date function on the Submariner. __________________ t65tampa

11 February 2020, 03:15 PM	#2
Danny83 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,325	From the AD? I say a Sub

11 February 2020, 03:15 PM	#3
interestedwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Hobart Posts: 1,031	What about an Explorer II?

11 February 2020, 03:20 PM	#4
Sandpit "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Middle East Posts: 1,809	I feel the Explorer is somewhat more versatile for every day life and would be the better option as a “one watch” collection. It would be perfect for office duties as well as weekend duties - maybe not extreme sports though. The Sub on the other hand obviously leans more toward the sporty side. Perfectly suitable for the office but (for me) not really correct for wearing with a suit so I think I would want a second dressier option for suit days. You may not have this issue though. It’s a close call and they’re both icons. I do love the case shape of the Explorer more than the sub but the Explorer is a much plainer piece. It’s definitely more under the radar. Given the option, I’d go sub if it fits your idea of day to day life. Ultimately though, as a 2 piece collection these two together would be amazing.

11 February 2020, 05:20 PM	#7
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,487	just go with the iconic rolex sub. no date is better than date. be warned sometimes rolex can get boring

11 February 2020, 08:59 PM	#10
PepsiBezel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: USA Watch: Neo-Vintage Posts: 1,214	Buy what you like best. For me, I like the bezel and would go with the Sub. I love my 114060.

11 February 2020, 09:15 PM	#11
VegasMilgauss "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,030	Land or Sea?, Explorer vs Submariner? Both are amazing and you genuinely can’t go wrong. I would go Explorer at this moment in your life as it’s easier to build a future collection around - so many options for the submariner going forward (TT, green, black, PM). Plus who knows what Basel will bring... Good luck however you choose to proceed

12 February 2020, 01:16 AM	#20
frank4242 Banned Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: USA Posts: 111	I believe a particular you admire... just go for it.. But go with the iconic rolex sub. you will love it

12 February 2020, 01:58 AM	#21
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,175	In that price range of 6-8k I'd be looking for a 14060M. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

12 February 2020, 02:27 AM	#22
DoubleJG "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: San Jose Watch: 114060 & 16570 Posts: 714	Between the two, I would go with the sub. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 February 2020, 03:08 AM	#23
Eagles4133 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: Chris Location: Philadelphia, Pa Watch: 214270 / 114060 Posts: 197	Explorer I for a great all-arounder! If it's your "only watch" the Explorer makes a lot of sense. It can fit under a tight dress shirt sleeve and is tough enough to go anywhere. I chose my Explorer I over a Sub for that very reason. I had a thought that I would pick up a Sub-No Date eventually (but that was when cases were filled with them). Now I am waiting around like everyone else.

12 February 2020, 03:29 AM	#27
jitdc "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Real Name: Jake Location: TN Watch: 126500 Posts: 556	Explorer for the win! Really, buy what you like. As others have said its a great first Rolex, and you can build a collection around it. Not sure what the quality comments are about... its a Rolex. They make them all to their standards. I haven't seen any issues. Besides its not like they are built in some far off factory by new hire watch makers and just because its a few $K less they just slap parts together. Its an excellent watch. Both are.

12 February 2020, 03:47 AM	#28
JBowen2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Oregon Posts: 115	Good to see this crowd is as split as I am! I love both...probably the sub slightly more (been a fan of it longer) but the explorer is more versatile and honestly can do it all Such a hard (first world problem) choice! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 February 2020, 04:23 AM	#29
RyanJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Atlantis Posts: 1,448	The Explorer is way more versatile. It also looks amazing on virtually any strap. Honestly you could buy both and have a duo that would last a lifetime.

12 February 2020, 07:42 AM	#30
TopDog2315 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Allessandro Location: Canada Watch: 16610/16570/16220 Posts: 705	Submariner for me! Mind you both are incredible : ) The above bs about the explorer being inferior is just that bs.... in my opinion. Cheers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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