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Gambron · 8 April 2020, 07:15 AM

Hey guys, this watch was just "stolen" from me by an email scammer in the South Florida area who essentially stole the identity of another board member whom i've done business with. He had me send the piece with the promise of a wire when the watch arrived. As I thought it was another very trusted community member, my guard was down. Obviously the proper authorities are working on this as well.

1978 Tudor Snowflake 9411/0

Serial # 923468

I was selling this watch out of financial hardship as a result of this crisis, so needless to say any help would be much appreciated!

CKizzy · 8 April 2020, 07:45 AM

Sorry to hear this and be weary of unsolicited emails and requests for info.

Be well and stay safe ~

BNA/LION · 8 April 2020, 07:51 AM

That Sucks! I hope that MF'er gets caught!

! Scamers are one of the lowest people on this planet!

Little machines · 8 April 2020, 07:53 AM

Very sad ! Good luck!

exador · 8 April 2020, 07:57 AM

That sucks.

Publish the guy's address. Perhaps someone could pay him a "visit".

For other sellers - receive funds then post.

Boaters · 8 April 2020, 08:24 AM

Low life scum...sorry for your loss keep us posted.

Ouro9999 · 8 April 2020, 08:29 AM

Painful, such a nice watch now on the hands of thieves. That's so bad news.

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Recondope · 8 April 2020, 08:46 AM

That's a beauty. Sorry for the loss, hopefully you get some resolution.

btinl · 8 April 2020, 08:50 AM

horrible news. Hopefully they catch that scumbag

visualplane · 8 April 2020, 10:06 AM

Sorry to hear, I hope you get your watch back!

Old Geezer · 8 April 2020, 10:57 AM

That’s awful. I hope law enforcement finds the perpetrator and you get your watch back.

nguyen.hung.levis · 8 April 2020, 10:58 AM

sorry for your loss, man!

Danny83 · 8 April 2020, 11:00 AM

Wow sorry to here what a nice watch

Bladeshot · 8 April 2020, 11:05 AM

Man that stinks. I’ll be subscribed and hope for good news in the future.

1665fan · 8 April 2020, 11:09 AM

That’s awful.....POS people for sure....send the serial Rolex

kieselguhr · 8 April 2020, 11:12 AM

Sorry to hear. Good luck.

schoolboy · 8 April 2020, 11:16 AM

Sorry to hear.

Hopefully something happens and fast.

Alo(ha)waii · 8 April 2020, 11:40 AM

PM me your Venmo. I hate people who steal. I don't have much but I can help enough so you could use it on food or other necessities.

ltmgeller · 8 April 2020, 11:43 AM

Sorry to hear. Hopefully you get it back as soon as possible.

Chewbacca · 8 April 2020, 11:43 AM

Shit. Terrible.

I do hope you get it back.

IndianRider · 8 April 2020, 12:16 PM

Let's hope that f'er gets caught and goes down

garyk · 8 April 2020, 12:55 PM

Terrible. So tough to anticipate the thievery that goes on these days!

Hollie_Rollie · 8 April 2020, 01:01 PM

That sucks, hoping for a speedy resolution

Gambron · 8 April 2020, 01:09 PM

Thanks so much for all of the replies guys!

This guy already listed the piece on Watchuseek and Craigslist both of which he pulled down...

The address he had me ship to was 144 Lakewood Village Circle in Daytona Beach, FL.
I highly doubt that was his actual address, probably lives nearby and grabbed the watch from the porch after UPS left it (he provided the label and I didn't realize until after that it was with no signature).

Here are two threads (I wish I had seen prior) that are associated with the same perp.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ighlight=butts

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=733354

Apparently this guy's name is Nicholas (Nick) Butts from the South Florida area. Everything leaves a footprint these days so hopefully the Daytona PD and FBI cyber crimes division will get to the bottom of it. They're pursuing it as a grand larceny/wire fraud case.

Will certainly post updates!

Thanks again,
Ken

Euge · 8 April 2020, 01:12 PM

I’m sorry to hear that....

So frustrating and unfair people deciding to steal instead of working like honest people.
So sad to hear human beings doing this kind of stuff.

HOPE THEY ALL GET WHAT THEY DESERVE!!!!!!

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sdiver68 · 8 April 2020, 01:15 PM

Sorry thieves suck. Was the watch insured?

dba · 8 April 2020, 01:17 PM

Just awful. Best of luck. F#$king scammers.

Gambron · 8 April 2020, 01:17 PM

Wasn't insured unfortunately though I doubt insurance would cover this type of theft anyway.

freefly · 8 April 2020, 01:22 PM

If he's posting on this or other forums, the admins might be able to help with an IP trace.
Won't give you an exact location, but may help narrow it down and/or confirm the address given was legit or not. Criminals are often stupid, so you may get lucky.

Gilchric · 8 April 2020, 01:53 PM

Sorry to hear that, I had something similar happen to myself in hong Kong in January - fortunately, time is a healer

8 April 2020, 07:51 AM	#3
BNA/LION 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,607	That Sucks! I hope that MF'er gets caught! ! Scamers are one of the lowest people on this planet! __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

8 April 2020, 11:05 AM	#14
Bladeshot 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Grant Location: U.S. Watch: GMT 1675 PCG Gilt Posts: 5,850	Man that stinks. I’ll be subscribed and hope for good news in the future. __________________ Just another WIS who loves to trade...

8 April 2020, 11:43 AM	#19
ltmgeller 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 22,482	Sorry to hear. Hopefully you get it back as soon as possible. __________________ Oh, look at the time... Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2019

8 April 2020, 12:55 PM	#22
garyk 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Gary Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 11,692	Terrible. So tough to anticipate the thievery that goes on these days! __________________

8 April 2020, 01:17 PM	#27
dba 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: David Location: Gardnerville, NV Watch: 16710 Posts: 2,702	Just awful. Best of luck. F#$king scammers. __________________ Current: 16710 Previous: 16760 Fat Lady, 16613 Bluesy, 16800, 14060, 16710 Pepsi, 216570 Polar, 116710LN, 16610, 216570 Polar (again), 16713, 216570 Polar (yet again), 16710 Black w/ Pepsi Insert Hope is not a strategy.

8 April 2020, 07:45 AM	#2
CKizzy "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Real Name: Chris Location: Nampa, ID Watch: Tachymeter Posts: 696	Sorry to hear this and be weary of unsolicited emails and requests for info. Be well and stay safe ~

8 April 2020, 07:53 AM	#4
Little machines "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Real Name: Joseph Location: USA Posts: 2,632	Very sad ! Good luck!

8 April 2020, 07:57 AM	#5
exador Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: NZ Posts: 2,600	That sucks. Publish the guy's address. Perhaps someone could pay him a "visit". For other sellers - receive funds then post.

8 April 2020, 08:24 AM	#6
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,652	Low life scum...sorry for your loss keep us posted.

8 April 2020, 08:29 AM	#7
Ouro9999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Romero Location: Brasil Watch: SUB16610lv Posts: 587	Painful, such a nice watch now on the hands of thieves. That's so bad news. Enviado de meu SM-G975F usando o Tapatalk

8 April 2020, 08:46 AM	#8
Recondope "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Real Name: Aaron Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 601	That's a beauty. Sorry for the loss, hopefully you get some resolution.

8 April 2020, 08:50 AM	#9
btinl 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Watch: on my wrist Posts: 1,962	horrible news. Hopefully they catch that scumbag

8 April 2020, 10:06 AM	#10
visualplane "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York, NY Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,170	Sorry to hear, I hope you get your watch back!

8 April 2020, 10:57 AM	#11
Old Geezer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,268	That’s awful. I hope law enforcement finds the perpetrator and you get your watch back.

8 April 2020, 10:58 AM	#12
nguyen.hung.levis "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Texas, USA Watch: 114060, 124270 Posts: 22	sorry for your loss, man!

8 April 2020, 11:00 AM	#13
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,301	Wow sorry to here what a nice watch

8 April 2020, 11:09 AM	#15
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,659	That’s awful.....POS people for sure....send the serial Rolex

8 April 2020, 11:12 AM	#16
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,615	Sorry to hear. Good luck.

8 April 2020, 11:16 AM	#17
schoolboy Banned Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Jesus Location: Texas Watch: 116234 Posts: 8,721	Sorry to hear. Hopefully something happens and fast.

8 April 2020, 11:40 AM	#18
Alo(ha)waii "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: HI + SF Posts: 303	PM me your Venmo. I hate people who steal. I don't have much but I can help enough so you could use it on food or other necessities.

8 April 2020, 11:43 AM	#20
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	Shit. Terrible. I do hope you get it back.

8 April 2020, 12:16 PM	#21
IndianRider Banned Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: on the road Watch: ing shameless Posts: 569	Let's hope that f'er gets caught and goes down

8 April 2020, 01:01 PM	#23
Hollie_Rollie 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: U.S.A. Watch: SD43 Posts: 3,335	That sucks, hoping for a speedy resolution

8 April 2020, 01:09 PM	#24
Gambron "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Ken Location: New York Posts: 73	Thanks so much for all of the replies guys! This guy already listed the piece on Watchuseek and Craigslist both of which he pulled down... The address he had me ship to was 144 Lakewood Village Circle in Daytona Beach, FL. I highly doubt that was his actual address, probably lives nearby and grabbed the watch from the porch after UPS left it (he provided the label and I didn't realize until after that it was with no signature). Here are two threads (I wish I had seen prior) that are associated with the same perp. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...ighlight=butts https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=733354 Apparently this guy's name is Nicholas (Nick) Butts from the South Florida area. Everything leaves a footprint these days so hopefully the Daytona PD and FBI cyber crimes division will get to the bottom of it. They're pursuing it as a grand larceny/wire fraud case. Will certainly post updates! Thanks again, Ken

8 April 2020, 01:12 PM	#25
Euge "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Eugenio Location: México Watch: All Watches Posts: 2,987	I’m sorry to hear that.... So frustrating and unfair people deciding to steal instead of working like honest people. So sad to hear human beings doing this kind of stuff. HOPE THEY ALL GET WHAT THEY DESERVE!!!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 April 2020, 01:15 PM	#26
sdiver68 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 118	Sorry thieves suck. Was the watch insured?

8 April 2020, 01:22 PM	#29
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	If he's posting on this or other forums, the admins might be able to help with an IP trace. Won't give you an exact location, but may help narrow it down and/or confirm the address given was legit or not. Criminals are often stupid, so you may get lucky.

8 April 2020, 01:53 PM	#30
Gilchric "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1	Sorry to hear that, I had something similar happen to myself in hong Kong in January - fortunately, time is a healer

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