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What should be my first patek
Hi everyone,
I’m hoping to get into Patek. I’ve owned Rolex, Breitling, Tudor and JLC. I know it’s regarded as the top watch brand but here is my dilemma. Where do I start? If I’m honest I’m finding it hard to know because I feel I have alternatives I would prefer for many Patek watches... Patek 5146 I like, but I think I prefer Lange annual calendars Patek Chrono I like, but already have a DaytonaC and again prefer the 1815 chrono Patek world time I feel I wouldn’t require as I have my Rolex GMT Patek Nautilus and aquanaut, regardless of the wait, I feel my SS Rolex watches carry out the job, and dare I say I would look at a 15202 first Patek Calatrava I love, but I own a Reverso and feel that has me covered. Basically I need advice, if I was to go with one, I’m thinking 5146 or 5227, but I just feel there are alternatives out there I prefer on paper. All advice appreciated ![]()
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Get the 5227. Calatrava is nothing like a JLC Reverso.
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Patek 5212A Weekly calendar or platinum world time would be my favorite
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Given your exclusions in your note I see 3 options left to consider - 2 of which require deep pockets....
1. Perpetual calendar Chrono - quintessential Patek. Choose carefully and you can get a great deal. 2. 5524g travel time - a great complication in a calatrava case. And just for a laugh..... minute repeater! |
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Considering your thoughts, OP, you don't have to get a Patek, let alone an "AquanauGHt". From what you're saying, you are either covered by what you already have or Patek isn't your first choice for what you wish to add.
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In the price range you seem to be considering I would aim for a preowned 3940, most likely the J. If you can live w the 3940's 36mm size I would get that classic over a 5146 or 5227 any time. The 5227 wears awfully big for a dress watch in IMO - too much empty real estate on that large dial.
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Patek is known for their classic Calatrava dress watches and their complications. If you want to get a new Calatrava, a 5227 automatic or a 5196 manual-wind would fit the bill. And you can't compare a Reverse to a Calatrava.
If you want a complication, AC, WT, chronos are all great options. World Time is totally different from a Rolex GMT. GMT is closer to a travel time. I would recommend visiting some Patek ADs or pre-owned stores when they open up again and try some on. You never know what you will really like in person. |
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Get the 5205 for the win!
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3940, 5140 or 5327
That’s what am planning to get as my second. My first is a 5711. Predictable. Had to scratch itch. Might have chosen differently had i been a bit wiser. But i guess we are the result of the choices we have made. |
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A mistake not to have a Patek or an AP imho. You never really own a Patek “on paper” you gotta get one that speaks to you and how it makes you FEEL. Patek makes me feel i am wearing something gentlemanly and extremely classic for me and no one else. APs make me feel like a badass and arguably it’s a good feeling.
I have a Lange 1815 chrono instead of a Patek and a Breguet 3700 Worldtime instead of a Patek but these are personally preferences that reflect my desire to own these brands after ownership of a 5170 and a 5130 (both amazing!). However no one really owns a Worldtime as a GMT - it is just awesome to have all the time zones and to embrace the complication. In all cases I think the Patek equivalents (5070/5170 and 5130/5230) are really really nice too -if I had unlimited funds I would go for the 5131 or 5231 enamel worldtimes (what a work of art!!!!!! wowzaa! truly a statement piece). Personally a 5070 would be my choice of Patek chrono. As for AC/PC a 3940 would be my choice. As for a calatrava - they are all amazing but i like the 3919 but also the 5196, 5296. Me, my Pateks include the 3712a, 5167a and the 3919J. I am looking to add a grand complication (Perpetual calendar chrono) back someday...I REALLY miss my 3970 and will either get one back or maybe a 5970. I think this could scratch the chrono AND calendar itch at the same time (A AC+Chrono complication or PC + Chrono complication). Some pics :) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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So the 5146 the OP mentions, is that relatively available at ADs? I am starting to really like this model. OP, I would say 5146, it looks like a great watch in photos. I have never seen it in person though.
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I think when it comes to Patek if you buy your first it would be one of the 3 types; either a simple time only calatrava, 5146 or a 5205
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Patek picked me, not the other way around.
I saw it and I had no option but to buy it; standing on the street corner in Edinburgh on vacation, looking at it in the jeweler’s window I couldn’t walk, had trouble breathing, trouble thinking clearly, paced around, called my credit card company and said look for a big ticket item to come through shortly in foreign country....and then went in and bought it. Walking back to hotel practicing how I would break it to my wife who wasn’t feeling well. :-) Maybe Patek isn’t right for you if trying to talk yourself into it... |
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If money is not an issue go for the Nautilus)
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x2. It really doesn't sound like you want a patek.
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Patek 3940
Great values and timeless balanced design. Great daily wear.
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You need to try them on, get to know the brand, and really feel them on your wrist to understand, your approach is completely wrong. I don't think it's the right brand for you.
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Don't force it, having the brand is nice initially but soon wears off and what is left is then just the watch on your wrist which you have to actually like.
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