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Old 5 May 2020, 05:33 PM   #1
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Deepsea Dblue for Overseas Chronograph?

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I am flirting with the idea to go from my DBlue 116660 (July 2015, still 2+ months in warranty) to a VC Overseas Silver Dial Chronograph 5500v/110a-b075 "as new" condition from December 2019.
What is the fair amount to pay for?
It has to be a very good deal to make it.
I own also a Sub 16613 serti dial and an IWC Portugieser Chronograph 3714

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Pro
VC more exclusive
Inhouse movement with nice sapphire back
Very flexible with extra leather and rubber straps
Better balance sport/business for daily use

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Dblue highest engineering and amazing dial
Remaining value longterm much higher for Rolex
116660 as the "original" JC may be collectable in future
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Old 5 May 2020, 06:20 PM   #2
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I personally would not do it, your not going to best return for it since you mentioned it has to be a good deal and right now is not the best time to sell a watch to a dealer in my opinion and get great deals. What I would do instead is see what the delta is between the VC Chrono offer with the trade in value of your 116660 and see if you can add a little to that and negotiate a non chrono 4500V to ADD to your collection. Overseas have been priced higher on secondary than what they should be but Silver dial should be easier to negotiate. I am almost sure you would miss the DSSD

Pros
-You have two nice watches including the awesome JC DSSD
-Non Chrono wears thinner and is more comfortable on the wrist - I have tried both, difference was felt
-You don't take a beating on the Overseas since they seemed to be overpriced lately for no real valid reason (VS actually lowered the price in 2019) - there is a lot of supply with high prices I'm not feeling the demand though...
-As nice as the Overseas is (I love it) it will not keep its value since that seems important to you
-Everything else you said in your Pros

Cons
None
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Old 5 May 2020, 06:28 PM   #3
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Don't do it. Think of the replacement value once you start to miss your DSSD. VC Overseas will be more accessible as time goes on. I too struggle with impulses to get higher horology pieces with smaller markets and softer resale than Rolex :) If you are not wearing the DSSD due to size or weight, consider trading for another Rolex.
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Old 5 May 2020, 06:34 PM   #4
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I most certainly would not.
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Old 5 May 2020, 09:02 PM   #5
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You convinced me.
If value is a significant factor, Rolex is the only way to go.
I will stay with my current trio and I forget VC.
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Old 5 May 2020, 09:05 PM   #6
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Χάρη, you are spot on. Long-term value means Rolex. Having said that the VC overseas chrono is an amazing watch in the flesh (whichever geenration).
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Old 5 May 2020, 09:07 PM   #7
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Diver vs chrono .... Is a non starter for me

I do admit the white panda dial VC chrono is a thing of beauty though
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Old 5 May 2020, 10:51 PM   #8
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VC 3rd gen chrono all day. The JC you have is the old one with thin bracelet so not as desirable as current one.
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Old 6 May 2020, 12:06 AM   #9
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Let's say I would make the deal.
What should be the fair cash amount to pay?
This is the most critical answer that includes all pros and cons.
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Old 6 May 2020, 12:07 AM   #10
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Go for the VCOC.
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Old 6 May 2020, 12:10 AM   #11
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I like that VC far more than the Deep Blue, but it all comes down to personal preferences.
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Old 6 May 2020, 04:13 AM   #12
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Never. Even though the VC is a great watch.
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Old 6 May 2020, 04:17 AM   #13
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Had a look at the VC the other day ...quite nice,but no.

I prefer the DSSD in black .
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Old 6 May 2020, 08:49 AM   #14
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VC part of the holy trinity
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Old 6 May 2020, 09:04 AM   #15
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You have very good taste because those are the two watches I’m considering buying in the future (although I would buy the 126660, and I would get the Blue dial VC).

I would expect to pay $21-23K for the Overseas on the secondary market. The 116660s seem to go for $11-12K depending on condition. So a decent deal would require you to pitch in at least $10K of cash, I think..


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Old 6 May 2020, 09:20 AM   #16
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The VC’s silver dial is a bit bland for my tastes. I also find that watches with a slanted date window at 4 o clock disrupts the aesthetics of the dial. I would keep the DSSD, the deep blue dial is very pleasing to the eyes.
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Old 6 May 2020, 09:31 AM   #17
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VC part of the holy trinity
Does a label like that have any bearing on how a watch makes you feel intrinsically or if you actually like it?
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Old 6 May 2020, 09:36 AM   #18
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If I had three or four Rolex sports models I’d be inclined to get the VC in exchange for one of them. I feel like I’d like to have at least a couple of Rolex to be in the rotation with a VC.
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Old 6 May 2020, 09:44 AM   #19
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I've seriously considered the 3rd gen VC Chrono but the thickness and 4 o'clock date kills it for me. YMMV. The silver dial you are thinking about sort of nullifies the date-concern because it isn't as noticeable as on the other models.

A good price for the VC chrono would be around $20K, I don't know how much you can get for the DSSD, it depends on the condition, location if it is a straight trade, etc.

I guess the DSSD JC is a bit more "interesting", but then again, you have a serti TT for that.

I'd flip the IWC and the DSSD and go for the VC :-)
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Old 6 May 2020, 09:50 AM   #20
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Good grief....no
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Old 6 May 2020, 12:11 PM   #21
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I wouldn’t do it.
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