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illiguy · 27 June 2020, 10:55 PM

Really starting to zero-in on an LV as next acquisition. Not sure whether I ought to go 16610LV (“Kermit”) - non-Flat 4 - or 116610LV (“Hulk”).

I have in my collection a 5-digit 14060M and a 6-digit 116610LN, and love both for their own respective reasons.

For those who own or have had a chance to handle both in the flesh, which would you prefer if having to choose one - Kermit or Hulk?

jasber · 27 June 2020, 11:03 PM

If you have bigger wrist or likes larger watch go for Hulk, else Kermit with better investment potential due to limited quantity

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Cru Jones · 27 June 2020, 11:03 PM

Search is your friend - quite a few threads on this topic. Anyway, LVc for me without question: the dial, glidelock, bracelet, ceramic insert, sportier lugs, incremental movement improvements. Oh, yeah, the dial. Did I mention that? :-)

Chester01 · 27 June 2020, 11:06 PM

Kermit and it’s not close. The kelly green pastel hulk with giant lugs is far from a balanced and proportioned watch. The Kermit has exceptional proportions and the green bezel is not that pastel green, and classic lugs.

Etschell · 27 June 2020, 11:07 PM

Well both have dropped in price recently. I went w the lv non ceramic.

Gimoozaabi · 27 June 2020, 11:18 PM

Looking at your collection - I would definitely keep the 14060M and will exchange the 6 digit LN for the Hulk. You will have best of the 5 and 6 digit SS subs.

padi56 · 27 June 2020, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasber

If you have bigger wrist or likes larger watch go for Hulk, else Kermit with better investment potential due to limited quantity

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Why is it today Rolex watches have now become little more than thinking of some sort of investment objects.Instead of buying and owning the watch you yourself wants to own and wear.Trouble today with Rolex watches they are not seen as one of the finest mechanical watches made today, seen by many as little more than $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and little else.

samson66 · 27 June 2020, 11:26 PM

I prefer the Hulk because I like the refinements and materials of the modern six digits. The ceramic bezel and modern bracelet are leaps and bounds over the five digits. As for value, no idea and I don't really care (just being honest).

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illiguy · 27 June 2020, 11:32 PM

Could care less about investment value. Truly torn between two watches at the moment.

jasber · 27 June 2020, 11:56 PM

I guess most would prefer to buy a watch this expensive to not depreciate in value?

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dricig · 27 June 2020, 11:58 PM

I chose Neither.
I had a kermit for 5 years and wore it 3 times.
I just don't like green, I sold it and doubled my money.

If you forced me to choose one I would go with the Kermit,
only because it has LESS green.

jasber · 28 June 2020, 12:00 AM

There are other cheaper brands that make quality movements, Zenith is one such example and their movements were great, they were even used in Rolex Daytona in the past.

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TswaneNguni · 28 June 2020, 12:02 AM

16610LV .

(I don't understand nickname talk.)

116610LV .I dont like the all green scheme.

Black dial with green insert much more interesting .
Be sure its an original with box and papers .

The Kermit · 28 June 2020, 01:04 AM

Kermit

Speed · 28 June 2020, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illiguy

Could care less about investment value. Truly torn between two watches at the moment.

All of your watches are quite similar...save for color.

I'd branch out to other brands. Unless, you just have to have a green watch for some reason. If that's truly the driver, flip a coin.

Happy St Patricks Day!

samson66 · 28 June 2020, 01:18 AM

Best of both worlds???

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sutats · 28 June 2020, 01:20 AM

Why not both?

tkc324 · 28 June 2020, 01:24 AM

Kermit gets my vote...

TellingTime · 28 June 2020, 01:32 AM

The Hulk is the Bomb!

Harry-57 · 28 June 2020, 02:09 AM

The short answer is neither. If you don't want one of them enough to be able to decide without an online poll, you don't want either badly enough.

This is a very subjective area. It's impossible to recommend either to a stranger.

I looked at a Kermit when you could actually walk in and buy one. These times are not mythical. They were in UK AD's windows, or in stock if you asked. I thought the bracelet was flimsy and insubstantial. The diving extension was a joke and the watch did not justify its then MSRP. I also thought it could do with having a slightly meatier case. Nothing drastic, just a bit more case heft and a lot more bracelet heft - not to mention bracelet build quality.

Based on this, the fact that I own a Hulk is no surprise. I think the Kermit is as overrated as it is classically beautiful. I think the Hulk is also overrated, but it's exactly what I wanted. I couldn't possibly tell you which you like more.

mbc · 28 June 2020, 02:16 AM

Kermit for me hands down, just feels like a more balanced watch for me, love mine

zjd168 · 28 June 2020, 02:21 AM

Both, Hulk if must pick one, the sunburst green dial is amazing if you like it. Kermit is basically a black sub with a green insert, a great one to add to a collection though.

Gerardus · 28 June 2020, 02:25 AM

Hulk for me.

Doc Savage · 28 June 2020, 02:37 AM

I love green watches, but I'm kind of over the Hulk at this point. Maybe because I see pictures of it everywhere it seems. Either way, I vote Kermit.

Lamontsanders · 28 June 2020, 02:41 AM

Hulk based on bracelet alone.

eightball76 · 28 June 2020, 02:46 AM

When your spending that amount of money.... the decision needs to be yours. Any Rolex you buy will hold its value so just buy the one you like the best

DoctorA · 28 June 2020, 02:49 AM

They each have their charm and place in a collection!
I have the hulk not the kermit and for now the hulk has been great to me. One day I would still love to add a kermit though

Turpentine · 28 June 2020, 02:53 AM

Kermit, no question

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FTX I · 28 June 2020, 02:56 AM

Hulk is too green so Kermit gets my vote.

JRell · 28 June 2020, 03:44 AM

I voted hulk, green on green. Black dials for black subs.

View Poll Results: Kermit or Hulk?
Kermit	146	46.50%
Hulk	168	53.50%
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27 June 2020, 10:55 PM	#1
illiguy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: UTC/GMT -5 Posts: 3,660	Feedback Please - Kermit or Hulk Really starting to zero-in on an LV as next acquisition. Not sure whether I ought to go 16610LV (“Kermit”) - non-Flat 4 - or 116610LV (“Hulk”). I have in my collection a 5-digit 14060M and a 6-digit 116610LN, and love both for their own respective reasons. For those who own or have had a chance to handle both in the flesh, which would you prefer if having to choose one - Kermit or Hulk?

27 June 2020, 11:07 PM	#5
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	Well both have dropped in price recently. I went w the lv non ceramic. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

27 June 2020, 11:58 PM	#11
dricig "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Dave Location: NY Metro Posts: 680	I chose Neither. I had a kermit for 5 years and wore it 3 times. I just don't like green, I sold it and doubled my money. If you forced me to choose one I would go with the Kermit, only because it has LESS green. __________________ Rolex 15010 Date -16013 TT DJ 16610LV -16750 GMT-16600 SD 16710 GMT -Tudor 79280

28 June 2020, 01:04 AM	#14
The Kermit "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Uk Watch: Sub16610LV /OP/GMT Posts: 1,208	Kermit __________________ Current watches Oyster Perpetual,16610LV “Kermit” Gmt “Coke” Gmt “Batman” CHNR TT “rootbeer”

27 June 2020, 11:03 PM	#2
jasber "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Singapore Posts: 69	If you have bigger wrist or likes larger watch go for Hulk, else Kermit with better investment potential due to limited quantity Sent from my SM-A705MN using Tapatalk

27 June 2020, 11:03 PM	#3
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,249	Search is your friend - quite a few threads on this topic. Anyway, LVc for me without question: the dial, glidelock, bracelet, ceramic insert, sportier lugs, incremental movement improvements. Oh, yeah, the dial. Did I mention that? :-)

27 June 2020, 11:06 PM	#4
Chester01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: East Coast Watch: 16610 Posts: 4,933	Kermit and it’s not close. The kelly green pastel hulk with giant lugs is far from a balanced and proportioned watch. The Kermit has exceptional proportions and the green bezel is not that pastel green, and classic lugs.

27 June 2020, 11:18 PM	#6
Gimoozaabi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: LBSF Watch: ing the grass grow Posts: 698	Looking at your collection - I would definitely keep the 14060M and will exchange the 6 digit LN for the Hulk. You will have best of the 5 and 6 digit SS subs.

27 June 2020, 11:26 PM	#8
samson66 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Downy Ocean Hon Watch: my money leaving! Posts: 13,754	I prefer the Hulk because I like the refinements and materials of the modern six digits. The ceramic bezel and modern bracelet are leaps and bounds over the five digits. As for value, no idea and I don't really care (just being honest). Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S10 using Tapatalk

27 June 2020, 11:32 PM	#9
illiguy 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: UTC/GMT -5 Posts: 3,660	Could care less about investment value. Truly torn between two watches at the moment.

27 June 2020, 11:56 PM	#10
jasber "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Singapore Posts: 69	I guess most would prefer to buy a watch this expensive to not depreciate in value? Sent from my SM-A705MN using Tapatalk

28 June 2020, 12:00 AM	#12
jasber "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Singapore Posts: 69	There are other cheaper brands that make quality movements, Zenith is one such example and their movements were great, they were even used in Rolex Daytona in the past. Sent from my SM-A705MN using Tapatalk

28 June 2020, 12:02 AM	#13
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	16610LV . (I don't understand nickname talk.) 116610LV .I dont like the all green scheme. Black dial with green insert much more interesting . Be sure its an original with box and papers .

28 June 2020, 01:18 AM	#16
samson66 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Downy Ocean Hon Watch: my money leaving! Posts: 13,754	Best of both worlds??? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S10 using Tapatalk

28 June 2020, 01:20 AM	#17
sutats "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 1,225	Why not both? __________________ There's no such thing as a Submariner No Date, it's simply Submariner. You don't call a Porsche 911 Turbo, a Porsche 911 Turbo No S. www.instagram.com/sutatshorology Post Your Rolex/Tudor Watch Weight (PYRTWW)

28 June 2020, 01:24 AM	#18
tkc324 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Chi town Watch: Daytona AP DD Sub Posts: 3,717	Kermit gets my vote...

28 June 2020, 01:32 AM	#19
TellingTime Banned Join Date: May 2020 Location: Over here Posts: 143	The Hulk is the Bomb!

28 June 2020, 02:09 AM	#20
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,629	The short answer is neither. If you don't want one of them enough to be able to decide without an online poll, you don't want either badly enough. This is a very subjective area. It's impossible to recommend either to a stranger. I looked at a Kermit when you could actually walk in and buy one. These times are not mythical. They were in UK AD's windows, or in stock if you asked. I thought the bracelet was flimsy and insubstantial. The diving extension was a joke and the watch did not justify its then MSRP. I also thought it could do with having a slightly meatier case. Nothing drastic, just a bit more case heft and a lot more bracelet heft - not to mention bracelet build quality. Based on this, the fact that I own a Hulk is no surprise. I think the Kermit is as overrated as it is classically beautiful. I think the Hulk is also overrated, but it's exactly what I wanted. I couldn't possibly tell you which you like more.

28 June 2020, 02:16 AM	#21
mbc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: NY Posts: 620	Kermit for me hands down, just feels like a more balanced watch for me, love mine

28 June 2020, 02:21 AM	#22
zjd168 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: US Posts: 2,698	Both, Hulk if must pick one, the sunburst green dial is amazing if you like it. Kermit is basically a black sub with a green insert, a great one to add to a collection though.

28 June 2020, 02:25 AM	#23
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,129	Hulk for me. __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

28 June 2020, 02:37 AM	#24
Doc Savage 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Real Name: Bill Location: Indiana Watch: Explorer 214270 Posts: 6,662	I love green watches, but I'm kind of over the Hulk at this point. Maybe because I see pictures of it everywhere it seems. Either way, I vote Kermit. __________________ “The real problem of humanity is we have Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions, and godlike technology.” -Edward O. Wilson

28 June 2020, 02:41 AM	#25
Lamontsanders "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: OH Posts: 712	Hulk based on bracelet alone.

28 June 2020, 02:46 AM	#26
eightball76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: england Watch: 16520, LV, SD4K Posts: 318	When your spending that amount of money.... the decision needs to be yours. Any Rolex you buy will hold its value so just buy the one you like the best

28 June 2020, 02:49 AM	#27
DoctorA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 6,545	They each have their charm and place in a collection! I have the hulk not the kermit and for now the hulk has been great to me. One day I would still love to add a kermit though __________________ Wear the watch you like, not the one they tell you to wear!

28 June 2020, 02:53 AM	#28
Turpentine "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 265	Kermit, no question Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

28 June 2020, 02:56 AM	#29
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Hulk is too green so Kermit gets my vote.

28 June 2020, 03:44 AM	#30
JRell "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 126710BLNR Jubilee Posts: 7,067	I voted hulk, green on green. Black dials for black subs.

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