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Amanubis · 18 July 2020, 01:56 AM

Hi All

Seeking views and wisdom on a chronometer certificate dated 1998 for a 16520. The cert is stamped from a Manila dealer but bears the country code 400.

I understand 400 is the code used for HK (along with 888), but is it possible that a cert bearing code 400 is used by a dealer from another country?

Other than the country code point the cert does look legit to me - watermarks present etc.

Many thanks!

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springer · 18 July 2020, 03:58 AM

The selling dealer in Manila could have made a dealer trade some type of trade with the AD in Hong Kong or the selling dealer could have purchased the watch wholesale from a dealer in Hong Kong and resold it at a shop in the Philippines. These are two possibilities and there are probably more I'm sure. It was not unusual 20 to 30 years ago for dealers to wholesale their watches to others.

Amanubis · 18 July 2020, 11:33 AM

Thanks jP, that is really great insight as always. Things seem a bit more fluid back in the day!

luial · 18 July 2020, 01:50 PM

That is legit.
My 16520 bought in Dec 95 (Early S serial) from my AD here in the Philippines has the country code 400 on my certificate.
Maybe all watches to the Philippines in that period came from HK.

Amanubis · 19 July 2020, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luial

That is legit.
My 16520 bought in Dec 95 (Early S serial) from my AD here in the Philippines has the country code 400 on my certificate.
Maybe all watches to the Philippines in that period came from HK.

Very interesting and good to know. Always something new to learn in the vintage (or neo-vintage in this case) Rolex game!

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18 July 2020, 01:56 AM	#1
Amanubis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: EDC Location: London/Singapore Watch: 16520 / 1665 GW Posts: 96	Rolex Country Code question Hi All Seeking views and wisdom on a chronometer certificate dated 1998 for a 16520. The cert is stamped from a Manila dealer but bears the country code 400. I understand 400 is the code used for HK (along with 888), but is it possible that a cert bearing code 400 is used by a dealer from another country? Other than the country code point the cert does look legit to me - watermarks present etc. Many thanks! Sent from my ELS-NX9 using Tapatalk

18 July 2020, 03:58 AM	#2
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,307	The selling dealer in Manila could have made a dealer trade some type of trade with the AD in Hong Kong or the selling dealer could have purchased the watch wholesale from a dealer in Hong Kong and resold it at a shop in the Philippines. These are two possibilities and there are probably more I'm sure. It was not unusual 20 to 30 years ago for dealers to wholesale their watches to others. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

18 July 2020, 11:33 AM	#3
Amanubis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Real Name: EDC Location: London/Singapore Watch: 16520 / 1665 GW Posts: 96	Thanks jP, that is really great insight as always. Things seem a bit more fluid back in the day!

18 July 2020, 01:50 PM	#4
luial "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: PH Posts: 9	That is legit. My 16520 bought in Dec 95 (Early S serial) from my AD here in the Philippines has the country code 400 on my certificate. Maybe all watches to the Philippines in that period came from HK.

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