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onlinejames · 29 April 2009, 11:58 PM

i have a submariner that is unknown if its real or not, the clicks are very audible, there is a pin not a piece of wire under the bezel
everything else down to the band and etching on the glass looks legit,seal on winder is there too
was there ever a 74 click sub
there is numbers in between the lugs but i cant read them at all, they are virtually gone
crown has the 3 dots on it
any thoughts on this im thinking its fake although a good one

Imtiaz · 29 April 2009, 11:59 PM

Put some clear photo on the web.

A picture is worth a 1000 words

onlinejames · 30 April 2009, 12:14 AM

ok
sorry for the finger marks its dark and the colour looks blue not purple like in the photo

onlinejames · 30 April 2009, 12:41 AM

anyone?

diablojota · 30 April 2009, 12:43 AM

It's a fake and a bad one at that. The first clue is the date window magnification. The bezel also look wrong.

diablojota · 30 April 2009, 12:43 AM

The lettering on the dial is off as well.

diablojota · 30 April 2009, 12:44 AM

Lugs are wrong.

ROGERB · 30 April 2009, 12:45 AM

From your picture above looking at the "pearl" in the bezel I'm afraid it does not look good.... I'm willing to bet the code in the back of the clasp has the letter D12 and that if you look at the crown from the side that it appears slightly below center to the crown guards! IMHO does not look real...
R

rxgremlin · 30 April 2009, 12:45 AM

I second that, its a fake.

jms_w · 30 April 2009, 12:46 AM

Turning the bezel will click 2 times per minute so 120 clicks for a full revolution. The numbers on the bezel insert are wrong as well as the font for oyster perpetual. I hope you didn't lose alot of money on this.

brettpaul · 30 April 2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by diablojota

Lugs are wrong.

IMO - the lugs look like they belong on an early version of the Sub and not a TT - also, I think it shold have 126 clicks?? Anyone?

diablojota · 30 April 2009, 12:47 AM

Even on an older sub they still look wrong. They curve too much...

onlinejames · 30 April 2009, 01:00 AM

thanks for that, didnt lose anything was given to me as a watch, nothing more
whats the clasp too,
from what ive read you look for the o ring on the winder, etching on the glass which it has just didnt have the 125 clicks, thanks for letting me know, you guys must know your stuff to notice such small things that are out of the ordinary
i think its a self winder too, sounds like my old watch, sounds and feels like a ball rolling around in side it
thanks again

Gedanken · 30 April 2009, 01:02 AM

That fake's so bad it's painful to look at.

valentine · 30 April 2009, 01:04 AM

unfortunately...its a fake. date magnification is off. pearl is awful. crown guards are off. and the bezel should click exactly 120 times. dont take offense. just answering the question.

onlinejames · 30 April 2009, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gedanken

That fake's so bad it's painful to look at.

LOL ok dont have a heart attack

SDDS · 30 April 2009, 03:11 AM

from the pic its fake

idk01 · 30 April 2009, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by diablojota

It's a fake and a bad one at that. The first clue is the date window magnification. The bezel also look wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablojota

The lettering on the dial is off as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablojota

Lugs are wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by diablojota

Even on an older sub they still look wrong. They curve too much...

Hey Frank, you should come and join us on the watchout section

diablojota · 30 April 2009, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by idk01

Hey Frank, you should come and join us on the watchout section

I can get the obvious ones, that's no problem! That TT Blue Sub from the other day got me, until you told me what was wrong. I won't make that mistake again. That said, I haven't been posting found items, as I could spend days straight finding fakes on eBay, but I will comment on the fakes when they are posted. I think my big weakness is the Daytonas.

idk01 · 30 April 2009, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by diablojota

I can get the obvious ones, that's no problem! That TT Blue Sub from the other day got me, until you told me what was wrong. I won't make that mistake again. That said, I haven't been posting found items, as I could spend days straight finding fakes on eBay, but I will comment on the fakes when they are posted. I think my big weakness is the Daytonas.

I'm slowly getting there on the good old Daytona, but very slowly

rescue7 · 30 April 2009, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by valentine

unfortunately...its a fake. date magnification is off. pearl is awful. crown guards are off. and the bezel should click exactly 120 times. dont take offense. just answering the question.

Also the width of the bezel seems a bit small and the minute markers on the dial don't seem right.

Why the sudden influx of posters showing pics of fake Rolex's, do they not read the TRF rules, this one.

5. THIS IS NOT A FORUM FOR THE DISCUSSION OF FAKE WATCHES and your opinion are about FAKE WATCHES and who makes them, sells them, buys them and wears them is NOT welcome.

diablojota · 30 April 2009, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rescue7

Also the width of the bezel seems a bit small and the minute markers on the dial don't seem right.

Why the sudden influx of posters showing pics of fake Rolex's, do they not read the TRF rules, this one.

5. THIS IS NOT A FORUM FOR THE DISCUSSION OF FAKE WATCHES and your opinion are about FAKE WATCHES and who makes them, sells them, buys them and wears them is NOT welcome.

But there is nothing wrong with someone wanting to check the authenticity of a watch. That's what this guy wanted to do. We told him it's a fake and we move on. Part of the education on this forum is being able to identify the "tells" of fake watches. I consider this one a learning experience for newer members, etc.

JJ Irani · 30 April 2009, 04:26 AM

My poor BLUESY just fainted after looking at that POS!!!

rescue7 · 30 April 2009, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by diablojota

But there is nothing wrong with someone wanting to check the authenticity of a watch. That's what this guy wanted to do. We told him it's a fake and we move on. Part of the education on this forum is being able to identify the "tells" of fake watches. I consider this one a learning experience for newer members, etc.

Take the watch to an AD, most people who have non authentic Rolex watches pay in the hundreds of dollars for there respective watches, is that not a sign by the price you pay.

My guess is that the majority of people who own non-authentic Rolex watches know that therewatch is not real. I think the OP knew it was fake.

This forum is a great place to exchange information about Rolex watches and it clearly states that it's NOT a forum for the discussion of fake watches.

BTW I did state in my opening paragraph what seemed different about the watch, correct?

dannynoonan · 30 April 2009, 05:00 AM

Doesnt the hand showing seconds stop at the minute markers on a sub? (Asking not telling)

Alan111 · 30 April 2009, 05:06 AM

Sorry to inform you, but yes it is a fake.

The date magnification is nowhere near close to 2.5X.
The font on the dial is incorrect.
The Pearl is incorrect.
The bezel insert does not seem "Rolex-esque".
The bezel should make 120 clicks around. 2 clicks for each minute marker.
And the rehaut looks quite deep.

Omega_Precision · 30 April 2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

My poor BLUESY just fainted after looking at that POS!!!

Alan111 · 30 April 2009, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rescue7

5. THIS IS NOT A FORUM FOR THE DISCUSSION OF FAKE WATCHES and your opinion are about FAKE WATCHES and who makes them, sells them, buys them and wears them is NOT welcome.

Relax, he just wanted to confirm with the experts. It isn;t easy for everyone to just go out to an AD. It is easier for him to ask and post pictures. Plus, we get to educate him on how to prevent a fake purchase in the future. We told him what needed to be said and that's all.

STEELINOX · 30 April 2009, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by onlinejames

ok
sorry for the finger marks its dark and the colour looks blue not purple like in the photo

Yup, that thars one of them "Patpong Specials" you get outside the pole dance clubs !

rescue7 · 30 April 2009, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan111

Relax, he just wanted to confirm with the experts. It isn;t easy for everyone to just go out to an AD. It is easier for him to ask and post pictures. Plus, we get to educate him on how to prevent a fake purchase in the future. We told him what needed to be said and that's all.

I'm very relaxed and thanks for asking, just a reminder for the newby's. I was not trying to yell just a little cutting and pasteing here.

29 April 2009, 11:58 PM	#1
onlinejames "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: australia Posts: 7	submariner sub bezel 74 clicks i have a submariner that is unknown if its real or not, the clicks are very audible, there is a pin not a piece of wire under the bezel everything else down to the band and etching on the glass looks legit,seal on winder is there too was there ever a 74 click sub there is numbers in between the lugs but i cant read them at all, they are virtually gone crown has the 3 dots on it any thoughts on this im thinking its fake although a good one

30 April 2009, 12:43 AM	#5
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	It's a fake and a bad one at that. The first clue is the date window magnification. The bezel also look wrong. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

30 April 2009, 12:43 AM	#6
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	The lettering on the dial is off as well. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

30 April 2009, 12:44 AM	#7
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	Lugs are wrong. __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

30 April 2009, 12:46 AM	#10
jms_w "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: East Coast Watch: 116710LN Posts: 557	Turning the bezel will click 2 times per minute so 120 clicks for a full revolution. The numbers on the bezel insert are wrong as well as the font for oyster perpetual. I hope you didn't lose alot of money on this. __________________ 116520\|116610LV\|116710LN\|16613\|16233 244 232.30.42\|3222.80 A2332212 CFX-200\|Riseman\|GW-M5610

29 April 2009, 11:59 PM	#2
Imtiaz Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: De Location: Tokyo Watch: Daytona, Sub, DS, Posts: 1,046	Put some clear photo on the web. A picture is worth a 1000 words

30 April 2009, 12:41 AM	#4
onlinejames "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: australia Posts: 7	anyone?

30 April 2009, 12:45 AM	#8
ROGERB "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: WHITE ROCK BC Watch: 89 16610, 57 7914, Posts: 897	From your picture above looking at the "pearl" in the bezel I'm afraid it does not look good.... I'm willing to bet the code in the back of the clasp has the letter D12 and that if you look at the crown from the side that it appears slightly below center to the crown guards! IMHO does not look real... R

30 April 2009, 12:45 AM	#9
rxgremlin Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 79	I second that, its a fake.

30 April 2009, 12:47 AM	#12
diablojota "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Frank Location: Chattanooga, TN Watch: SS Submariner Date Posts: 4,042	Even on an older sub they still look wrong. They curve too much... __________________ RTFT - Read The Friggin' Thread FcB

30 April 2009, 01:00 AM	#13
onlinejames "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: australia Posts: 7	thanks for that, didnt lose anything was given to me as a watch, nothing more whats the clasp too, from what ive read you look for the o ring on the winder, etching on the glass which it has just didnt have the 125 clicks, thanks for letting me know, you guys must know your stuff to notice such small things that are out of the ordinary i think its a self winder too, sounds like my old watch, sounds and feels like a ball rolling around in side it thanks again

30 April 2009, 01:02 AM	#14
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	That fake's so bad it's painful to look at. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

30 April 2009, 01:04 AM	#15
valentine Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Justin Location: Baltimore, MD Watch: TT Diamond DJ Posts: 2,809	unfortunately...its a fake. date magnification is off. pearl is awful. crown guards are off. and the bezel should click exactly 120 times. dont take offense. just answering the question.

30 April 2009, 03:11 AM	#17
SDDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Yazan Location: Canada Posts: 4,782	from the pic its fake __________________ Patek Philippe 5167 Patek Philippe 5905P black dial Rolex Deepsea 116660 M series Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 N series Rolex OP 41MM 124300 Green Dial

30 April 2009, 04:26 AM	#23
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	My poor BLUESY just fainted after looking at that POS!!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

30 April 2009, 05:00 AM	#25
dannynoonan "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Idaho Posts: 40	Doesnt the hand showing seconds stop at the minute markers on a sub? (Asking not telling)

30 April 2009, 05:06 AM	#26
Alan111 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 1,605	Sorry to inform you, but yes it is a fake. The date magnification is nowhere near close to 2.5X. The font on the dial is incorrect. The Pearl is incorrect. The bezel insert does not seem "Rolex-esque". The bezel should make 120 clicks around. 2 clicks for each minute marker. And the rehaut looks quite deep.

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