I’m just gonna go ahead and say it.

[mactruck]

The Rotor sounds like an eta.
The time sets like an eta.
It winds hard like an eta.
It uses screws and tabs like an eta.

The 3135 was way better IMHO. Quiet Rotor, smooth winding, time setting, Rolex staple.

The 3235s don't feel like a Rolex.

[GB-man]

[Onikage]

It also looks like an Omega.

[mactruck]

[Doc Savage]

This should be good. IBTL

[ltmgeller]

[MrJKLFoams]

This gonna be a long discussion

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[kieselguhr]

ETA 2892

(From Ofrei)

Well there are key structural differences.

- free sprung balance
- the use of a balance bridge vs. balance cock
- parachrom hairspring
- ball bearing rotor
- chronergy escapement vs. traditional lever escapement
- a larger barrel (as you have alluded to)

Functionally they serve the same basic purpose. Though you can’t just negate the R&D that went towards improving a movement in various aspects including efficiency, longevity, and cost.

[mactruck]

Correction. The 3235 winds like an eta 2824. My 2892 is super smooth.

[fskywalker]

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[Polarexplorerii]

Ibtl

[Andad]

An interesting discussion given the issues Tudor had when they moved from an ETA movement to their in house movement.

[Setarip]

Popcorn anyone?


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[mactruck]

Not to mention the 3235 is more picky about oil than the 3135 and more prone to failure.

Just not seeing the benefits of the new movement. All user interface with it is a step backwards.

[Doc Savage]

Originally Posted by mactruck

Correction. The 3235 winds like an eta 2824. My 2892 is super smooth.

I dunno. The 2824-2 in my Black Bay is one of the smoothest winding movements I've ever owned.

That's not a knock on the 2892. It's a fantastic movement. I've owned a dozen of them, and I have liked all of them over the 2824 movements in other watches. In general, I always choose the 2892 over the 2824. But I have been tremendously impressed with the upgrades Rolex / Tudor has done to the 2824-2 they put in the Black Bay.

[mactruck]

Just to be clear, I’m not knocking the eta movements. Mine all run great. Just noting that the new 3235 movement, from a use perspective is indistinguishable.

I have a Steinhart Ocean 500 Titanium micro brand with a 2892 and it winds better and keeps better time than my batgirl and my datejust 41.

All my 3135 watches are smoother and run better too.

My sea dweller is 21 years old, never serviced and runs consistently +3 a day.

[Brny11]

I have read multiple write ups from watchmakers. I trust them wayyyy more than any enthusiast (including myself). From what I read, the 3235 is nice to work on, has solid (and impressive) engineering and is as fine a movement as the 3135.

People do not like new. I for one could care less. It has Rolex pedigree through and through and I love the aesthetics of nearly all 3235 models (exception being the new 41 OP line).

[Chadridv]

I hope this doesn’t get locked, it’s more interesting than the investment, shortage and is it safe threads lol.

[TswaneNguni]

In 3135 I trust .

PS: 4130 isn't too shabby ,as well .

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by mactruck

The 3135 was way better IMHO. Quiet Rotor, smooth winding, time setting, ...

...and runs very accurately for years and years .

[TswaneNguni]

Originally Posted by Brny11

I have read multiple write ups from watchmakers. I trust them wayyyy more than any enthusiast (including myself). From what I read, the 3235 is nice to work on, has solid (and impressive) engineering and is as fine a movement as the 3135.

People do not like new. I for one could care less. It has Rolex pedigree through and through and I love the aesthetics of nearly all 3235 models (exception being the new 41 OP line).

https://quillandpad.com/2019/11/19/w...ich-is-better/

[LDN]

Louder with Crowder is awesome!

[garyk]

On to tomorrow!

[calh22a]

I actually like the 3235 movement so far in terms of power reserve and not having resistance pulling the crown out which I occasionally run into with the 3135

[Doc Savage]

Originally Posted by Brny11

...People do not like new. I for one could care less. It has Rolex pedigree through and through and I love the aesthetics of nearly all 3235 models (exception being the new 41 OP line).

Although this is a generally true statement, I don't think it necessarily applies here. People dislike the 3200 series for very specific reasons, some of them noted in this thread already.

A noisy rotor doesn't convey the impression of a highly engineered movement on a luxury watch. This is a gut reaction by end users, not an engineering analysis. It is also an important consideration. We don't buy these watches because they are the most accurate. Cheap quartz watches are far more accurate. We love the history, pedigree, and related stories that go with these watches. It's an emotional connection.

When a watch that handwinds smoothly and whose rotor functions quietly in the background gets an upgraded movement that does neither of these things, it is not something easily ignored by many customers and enthusiasts.

[EEpro]

3235 in DJ41 and SD43 was fairly loud but nothing like the new omegas.

3285 is pretty quiet, though. I wasn't expecting that. I have to put my ear up to it to hear anything but the slight jingle of the snug bracelet.

[77T]

It’s hard to know the “why’s and wherefore’s” of a 3235 - some choices by the designer(s) seem idiosyncratic.

But the trolling is getting more entertaining.


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[BigBoy17]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

https://quillandpad.com/2019/11/19/w...ich-is-better/

Good read

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by Doc Savage

Although this is a generally true statement, I don't think it necessarily applies here. People dislike the 3200 series for very specific reasons, some of them noted in this thread already.

A noisy rotor doesn't convey the impression of a highly engineered movement on a luxury watch. This is a gut reaction by end users, not an engineering analysis. It is also an important consideration. We don't buy these watches because they are the most accurate. Cheap quartz watches are far more accurate. We love the history, pedigree, and related stories that go with these watches. It's an emotional connection.

When a watch that handwinds smoothly and whose rotor functions quietly in the background gets an upgraded movement that does neither of these things, it is not something easily ignored by many customers and enthusiasts.

Well said doc.

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by TswaneNguni

In 3135 I trust .

PS: 4130 isn't too shabby ,as well .

I love the experience winding the 4130.




I have 3285’s and the experience isn’t the same between the two. Don’t know what to make of it since both keep equally good time but one is noticeably louder than the other when winding and the feel is ‘rougher’ compared to the other.