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NathansExplorer · 7 April 2021, 10:19 PM

This watch is perfect. I'll be upgrading my 114270 100%. But does the new SS model have a gloss black dial??? Fingers crossed, I'm not a massive fan of matte black dials.

fskywalker · 8 April 2021, 01:34 AM

Hope not!

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Heady Topper · 8 April 2021, 01:52 AM

As I read it, it said "lacquered". Not sure if it applies to the SS. I think the matte black would still look better for this watch, if it's the case

Boothroyd · 8 April 2021, 02:14 AM

Just like the Explorer II black. Matte dials are gone from the Explorer line.

SaddleSC · 8 April 2021, 02:17 AM

Really? Gloss dials on the Explorer lineup across the board?
IMO, the matte dial really suits that character of the Explorer line much better.
Jeez

Lambo The Jambo · 8 April 2021, 02:21 AM

Does anybody know if the 36mm explorer case is any different to the 36mm OP case?

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mgsooner · 8 April 2021, 02:34 AM

A switch to lacquer dials on the Exp line would be disappointing. That's one of my favorite things about my 214270. Helps make it unique and set it apart in the Rolex catalogue. I've always liked the matte black dial of the 216570 as well.

rjstuf001 · 8 April 2021, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lambo The Jambo

Does anybody know if the 36mm explorer case is any different to the 36mm OP case?

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The bezel is different. Flat on the Exp and domed on the OP.

Lambo The Jambo · 8 April 2021, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rjstuf001

The bezel is different. Flat on the Exp and domed on the OP.

Interesting. Thanks.

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erict · 8 April 2021, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathansExplorer

This watch is perfect. I'll be upgrading my 114270 100%. But does the new SS model have a gloss black dial??? Fingers crossed, I'm not a massive fan of matte black dials.

Looks like gloss in this image on their website. Notice the reflection of the seconds hand.

liberalclown · 8 April 2021, 03:50 AM

Wei Koh confirmed, lacquer gloss dial on both 36mm, on the contrary of the matte dial on 39mm

charlesheung · 8 April 2021, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by liberalclown

Wei Koh confirmed, lacquer gloss dial on both 36mm, on the contrary of the matte dial on 39mm

It's a nice touch. Good job Rolex.

Heady Topper · 8 April 2021, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by liberalclown

Wei Koh confirmed, lacquer gloss dial on both 36mm, on the contrary of the matte dial on 39mm

Wow, that's a bummer

StillTrying · 8 April 2021, 04:04 AM

Gloss dials is the reason I switched from the submariner to the explorer line. Oh well, guess I won’t be getting a 36mm. Not that big of a deal, I have a 39mm but would have traded to get a 36 if it was matte.

mgsooner · 8 April 2021, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by liberalclown

Wei Koh confirmed, lacquer gloss dial on both 36mm, on the contrary of the matte dial on 39mm

Welp, any doubt in my mind about whether to stick with my 39 is now gone.

quadraaa · 8 April 2021, 04:31 AM

IMO matt would be so much better for the Explorer :(

liberalclown · 8 April 2021, 04:35 AM

Matte on 39mm is great and gives a character to the watch, but on 36mm lacquer may look better, hard to tell before seeing in flesh

JJK · 8 April 2021, 05:53 AM

Case and profile look like the 114270 to me from the pics so far. The hands look like 5 digit reference hands too (not fattened like the 39mm and subs etc)
The movement, bracelet, and luminous numbers (and lume color in the dark) are obviously an upgrade and different.

I wonder how different it will look in real life vs the 114270 and if it will be worth an upgrade, and I wonder if we will continue to see 8k/9k 114270 complete sets with gray dealers.
Btw - I think both new explorers look awesome in the pics I have seen so far.
Jjk

Rocket_Man · 8 April 2021, 05:57 AM

Another reason why I'm so glad I have the 39mm version. Matte dial, larger and easier to read. Nicely proportioned. I have a vintage 36mm Datejust, a nice watch, but I've become used to the slightly larger cases now.

SaddleSC · 8 April 2021, 06:28 AM

Kind of the final nail in the 36mm coffin as far as my interest is concerned. With any Rolex, I try to steer clear of the gloss dials if at all possible. That is why I have DSSD, Hulk, and Explorer.

My issue with them? The way they are manufactured creates a dimple in the center of the dial where the hands come through the dial, which drives me nuts. I am not sure why Rolex cannot create a high-gloss dial without this effect. It doesn't happen on sunburst or matte dials.

Even my gloss blue Smurf dial had the dreaded dimple...

RKTINC1 · 8 April 2021, 06:36 AM

I hope the new 36 has the heft and width of the newer 36mm cases vs the older 36mm cases of the 1980 and 90's. With the new style solid bracelet the 36 should wear larger than the previous 36mm Exp 1.

Maxy · 8 April 2021, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lambo The Jambo

Does anybody know if the 36mm explorer case is any different to the 36mm OP case?

No, that's the point to make it in 36mm now. Next year, it'll be 41mm Explorer. Easier to re-use cases from OP.

FTX I · 8 April 2021, 06:48 AM

I'm a fan of gloss dials.

hdms · 8 April 2021, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxy

No, that's the point to make it in 36mm now. Next year, it'll be 41mm Explorer. Easier to re-use cases from OP.

How long can we expect until ADs have them? Not that I can get it from them anyway. Lol

7 April 2021, 10:19 PM	#1
NathansExplorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: AUS Posts: 101	2021 Rolex Explorer SS 36mm Gloss Black Dial???? This watch is perfect. I'll be upgrading my 114270 100%. But does the new SS model have a gloss black dial??? Fingers crossed, I'm not a massive fan of matte black dials.

8 April 2021, 01:34 AM	#2
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8 April 2021, 02:14 AM	#4
Boothroyd 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Daniel Location: Minneapolis, MN Watch: Wilsdorf(s) Posts: 10,256	Just like the Explorer II black. Matte dials are gone from the Explorer line. __________________ Explorer 214270 MK I/Datejust II Black 116300/Tudor Heritage Black Bay Black 79220N

8 April 2021, 02:17 AM	#5
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	Really? Gloss dials on the Explorer lineup across the board? IMO, the matte dial really suits that character of the Explorer line much better. Jeez __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

8 April 2021, 02:34 AM	#7
mgsooner "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Real Name: Matthew Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 1,948	A switch to lacquer dials on the Exp line would be disappointing. That's one of my favorite things about my 214270. Helps make it unique and set it apart in the Rolex catalogue. I've always liked the matte black dial of the 216570 as well. __________________ \|Rolex Submariner 114060\| \|Rolex Datejust 126234 silver\| \|Grand Seiko SBGT021 day-date quartz\|

8 April 2021, 01:52 AM	#3
Heady Topper Banned Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 321	As I read it, it said "lacquered". Not sure if it applies to the SS. I think the matte black would still look better for this watch, if it's the case

8 April 2021, 02:21 AM	#6
Lambo The Jambo "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 179	Does anybody know if the 36mm explorer case is any different to the 36mm OP case? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 April 2021, 03:50 AM	#11
liberalclown "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Real Name: Jan Location: Earth Posts: 381	Wei Koh confirmed, lacquer gloss dial on both 36mm, on the contrary of the matte dial on 39mm

8 April 2021, 04:04 AM	#14
StillTrying "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Space Watch: 16570, black Posts: 965	Gloss dials is the reason I switched from the submariner to the explorer line. Oh well, guess I won’t be getting a 36mm. Not that big of a deal, I have a 39mm but would have traded to get a 36 if it was matte.

8 April 2021, 04:31 AM	#16
quadraaa "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Berlin Posts: 100	IMO matt would be so much better for the Explorer :(

8 April 2021, 04:35 AM	#17
liberalclown "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Real Name: Jan Location: Earth Posts: 381	Matte on 39mm is great and gives a character to the watch, but on 36mm lacquer may look better, hard to tell before seeing in flesh

8 April 2021, 05:53 AM	#18
JJK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 79	Case and profile look like the 114270 to me from the pics so far. The hands look like 5 digit reference hands too (not fattened like the 39mm and subs etc) The movement, bracelet, and luminous numbers (and lume color in the dark) are obviously an upgrade and different. I wonder how different it will look in real life vs the 114270 and if it will be worth an upgrade, and I wonder if we will continue to see 8k/9k 114270 complete sets with gray dealers. Btw - I think both new explorers look awesome in the pics I have seen so far. Jjk

8 April 2021, 05:57 AM	#19
Rocket_Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,332	Another reason why I'm so glad I have the 39mm version. Matte dial, larger and easier to read. Nicely proportioned. I have a vintage 36mm Datejust, a nice watch, but I've become used to the slightly larger cases now.

8 April 2021, 06:28 AM	#20
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	Kind of the final nail in the 36mm coffin as far as my interest is concerned. With any Rolex, I try to steer clear of the gloss dials if at all possible. That is why I have DSSD, Hulk, and Explorer. My issue with them? The way they are manufactured creates a dimple in the center of the dial where the hands come through the dial, which drives me nuts. I am not sure why Rolex cannot create a high-gloss dial without this effect. It doesn't happen on sunburst or matte dials. Even my gloss blue Smurf dial had the dreaded dimple... __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

8 April 2021, 06:36 AM	#21
RKTINC1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 199	I hope the new 36 has the heft and width of the newer 36mm cases vs the older 36mm cases of the 1980 and 90's. With the new style solid bracelet the 36 should wear larger than the previous 36mm Exp 1.

8 April 2021, 06:48 AM	#23
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	I'm a fan of gloss dials.

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