2021 New Release This or That

[macrowatch]

Curious for everyone else’s take on new 2021 Daytona RG Metorite vs Code two tone ceramic RG (plus whatever mythical allocation improvement down the road - which I assume is only a very small help on the road for unobtanium watches).

Had a chance to see the Code in NY, photos do do this watch justice IMHO.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by macrowatch

Curious for everyone else’s take on new 2021 Daytona RG Metorite vs Code two tone ceramic RG (plus whatever mythical allocation improvement down the road - which I assume is only a very small help on the road for unobtanium watches).

Had a chance to see the Code in NY, photos do do this watch justice IMHO.

I have been thinking about adding a CE CODE to my wishlist and am not at all tempted by the RG meteorite (might be different for a WG blue dial Daytona). But I assume this is going to be a minority option, in particular if you cross-post in the Rolex discussion section

[Tanuki]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

I have been thinking about adding a CE CODE to my wishlist and am not at all tempted by the RG meteorite (might be different for a WG blue dial Daytona). But I assume this is going to be a minority option, in particular if you cross-post in the Rolex discussion section

I second this! I would take a blue WG Daytona over meteorite and code. But I would take a AP ROC over all of them.

[rotiprata]

Originally Posted by macrowatch

Curious for everyone else’s take on new 2021 Daytona RG Metorite vs Code two tone ceramic RG (plus whatever mythical allocation improvement down the road - which I assume is only a very small help on the road for unobtanium watches).

Had a chance to see the Code in NY, photos do this watch justice IMHO.

TBH, recently I have been questioning myself the same thing, the new Code 11:59 Ceramic case is really rad. The only problem is I haven't been able to try one myself to feel the watch and the "I want this NOW" feeling associated with buying a brand new watch.

I tried the past versions of the Code 11:59 chronographs, didn't really like it.
Prefer the 2 tone looks of the ceramic and gold casing.

Maybe anyone in this forum who owns these latest pieces could chime in on their wear, looks and experience!

[macrowatch]

So I had a chance to try on in NYC, and it’s really sharp. The black center of the case has a visual illusion effect to make it look slimmer - kind of like what a black dress does visually. You can literally put two codes side by side, and the black center will make the case look thinner.

There’s no doubt in my mind that Rolex is “more watch for the money” with a big block of gold that is a PM bracelet, but against a Patek dress chrono like 5070, I’d take this. (I’d take 5170p over code, but basically most other Patek dress chronos I’d take second to this…actually maybe 5960 is a better comparison stylistically).

I really think the big psychological downside is there is ZERO secondary market for the codes. Not even a 20% haircut market beneath for liquidity. And so I think psychologically, that’s hard to get past. I also wonder whether they will limit the production of this watch in line with other uses of ceramic. Eg the ratio of steel RO to ceramic RO. Will this be the same way for TT Code ceramic vs regular Code? If it does, then it makes the dial really special IMHO.

[sgwatchguy]

I’ve been asking but haven’t been able to try the new CE models here in SGP. So what pieces came, have been sold.

Online I see these guys are already discounting.

[dauster]

I am a buyer at 25k

[macrowatch]

@sgwatchguy, I don’t think any Code buyer is under an illusion the line won’t lose value once you walk out the door. I do however think after trying on in NYC that the watch is actually very well done. I do wish like Dauster it was 25k, but reasonably I thought 38k would have been the right price point.

Price point aside, I think this watch can make a strong argument as a stand-alone watch in a diverse collection.

I also have a chance to try on the full RG Daytona metorite and am surprised to say I was very disappointed in it. Felt more gimmicky than nice.

Originally Posted by dauster

I am a buyer at 25k

[kimwizzzuuu]

My ceramic code doesn’t look out of place in my little collection.

[GreenLantern]

If I had to pick between the semi-ceramic CODE 11.59 of the Meteorite Daytona, it's no contest for me.

Meteorite Daytona all the way.

The CODE may have the nicer movement, but it's not full ceramic (though still quite stunning), and the Meteorite is just an amazing dial in my opinion.

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by kimwizzzuuu

My ceramic code doesn’t look out of place in my little collection.

Not at all haha. I’ve been wanting to try the CE since your incoming.

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by macrowatch

Price point aside, I think this watch can make a strong argument as a stand-alone watch in a diverse collection.

Agree.

[kimwizzzuuu]

Originally Posted by sgwatchguy

Not at all haha. I’ve been wanting to try the CE since your incoming.

I thought Singapore had marketing pieces in both materials even earlier than New York.

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by kimwizzzuuu

I thought Singapore had marketing pieces in both materials even earlier than New York.

Apparently not, which is kinda surprising considering this is a good market for AP

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by dauster

I am a buyer at 25k

Used/grey? For AP, PP, VC, ALS $40-50k is the price of entry for PM (or PM/ceramic in this case) chronos. "25k" just means you're not going to buy one (new).

[AshAP]

Originally Posted by kimwizzzuuu

My ceramic code doesn’t look out of place in my little collection.

Your wife’s Breguet Reine de Naples is very nice, my wife wants that one too.


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[macrowatch]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

If I had to pick between the semi-ceramic CODE 11.59 of the Meteorite Daytona, it's no contest for me.

Meteorite Daytona all the way.

The CODE may have the nicer movement, but it's not full ceramic (though still quite stunning), and the Meteorite is just an amazing dial in my opinion.

As a general comment, I feel the new code and more generally AP watches more naturally enter a collection only after a collection starts to become very deep, especially if a buyer is value conscious. And by value I mean what Do you get for the watch vs secondary.

Take a 26331ST vs WG Daytona Oysterflex. For me, without any Pm Rolex, I think the Oysterflex is a better value. If I don’t have a full PM Rolex, then I’d take the PM Rolex over the code every time. Basically same price but solid gold bracelet!

But after a collection already checks those boxes, then I feel (again personally) the mind starts to wander and consider the code for the first time without worrying about what other piece is a better value and can just appreciate it for what is is. (And still grossly expensive at that!!!)

It is no doubt a luxury purchase at this price point to be able to admire something far outside of consensus. A SS Daytona or 5711 this is not.

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by kimwizzzuuu

My ceramic code doesn’t look out of place in my little collection.

Nice collection! You know that you'll have to switch on the winder if you want the watches to keep running?

[kimwizzzuuu]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Nice collection! You know that you'll have to switch on the winder if you want the watches to keep running?

I would only turn on winder for QP which I’m still waiting on it. The rest I would just manually wind them when I’m wearing.

[kimwizzzuuu]

Originally Posted by AshAP

Your wife’s Breguet Reine de Naples is very nice, my wife wants that one too.


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Thank you for the kind word. I think all ladies should have one of this in their collection.

[kimwizzzuuu]

Originally Posted by sgwatchguy

Apparently not, which is kinda surprising considering this is a good market for AP

You are missing out man, I saw on other social media platform. You guys have all new code and new divers when first launch.

[sgwatchguy]

Originally Posted by kimwizzzuuu

You are missing out man, I saw on other social media platform. You guys have all new code and new divers when first launch.

Guess I’m not feeling the human connection from AP after all

[dauster]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Used/grey? For AP, PP, VC, ALS $40-50k is the price of entry for PM (or PM/ceramic in this case) chronos. "25k" just means you're not going to buy one (new).

Lol yes very true not going to buy one indeed. My point was that’s what I think they should cost. Maybe 30 would be ok.