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Just1More · 30 May 2021, 05:02 AM

AVOID berjz
I communicated with him via email and text. I asked for references. He gave me 2 and one responded (could be his partner- Dennis Garner --Gandxt@gmail.com) but I have had constant delays in communication and responses.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...?t=799009--NOW removed.

He had one listing when I contacted him and about 128 posts. Then over the past few days, he added 2 more listings (now removed) for a Sub Date and a Batman.

This was a purchse for a 39mm black OP. He had photos and I asked him to send a video. He did send a poor-quality video of the watch.

I wired him the money. It took 2-3 days to clear. He says he sent the watch. He gave me 3 FedEx tracking numbers all of which are just labels created and no scan or shipment. Easy to create online. I asked for the watch to be shipped separately from the papers and tags. He said he complied but still no shipment. He said he would refund if there was no movement in FedEx. I challenged him as a scammer and of course, he took offence. I am embarrassed to be scammed. He never answers. Even from blocked numbers. He continued to list watches. He now has a date sub and batman. Name: Bernard Drina Doran. Phone: +1 (205) 287-2538. The address he told me is 9982A Hardy Dr, Creola AL 36525. I reported it to the police. Buyer beware. I know. I don't like to post bad things about people but this is horrible.

Chewbacca · 30 May 2021, 06:00 AM

Oh ffs.

Hope you get some support to get your money back.

214270Explorer · 30 May 2021, 11:30 AM

Never wire money to anyone unless it is a well-established and well-known brick and mortar store.

We see these posts here just about every month where someone gets ripped off from wiring funds to a random private party.

It is unfortunate to have this occur, but it is an extremely common scam. We all feel very badly when this activity gets reported here at the forum.

Hopefully, Law Enforcement can assist in some manner.

Danny83 · 31 May 2021, 01:10 AM

This is terrible

Just1More · 31 May 2021, 01:13 AM

There won't be a next time with any private sales. IF EVER--I will be asking for photos of drivers licence and another government photo ID. He is a total MOFO.

CaveDweller · 31 May 2021, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by venron

I will be asking for photos of drivers licence and another government photo ID.

Both of these can be faked with ease ....

Humble michael · 31 May 2021, 11:19 PM

Wow, I am always amazed that people,after seeing the experience of others,send a box of cash out before receiving and inspecting anything expect a good result! Really?! Yeah sure check them out , get photos of their birth certificate and blood type , then just trust them! Wow! And what if your “ trusted” and screened as well as vetted seller sends you a piece but forgets to send the stylus or in your opinion it isn’t what he said it was but he doesn’t agree?? What possible recourse do you have- oh I know - call the popo’s or start a lawsuit- have fun. All could have been avoided by simply paying with a CC. Sure there are some who will refuse- so what? Move on to the next seller , there are plenty who will. You have got to protect yourself and “buying the seller” is good but isn’t enough. Please learn from others experience. james in San Antonio Tx

GGGMT · 31 May 2021, 11:39 PM

Wait, you wired him $ upon two references that he provided?? And with 128 posts here? And he’s not a trusted seller here? As I’ve said before, buyers who do this provide the opportunity for scammers without which they don’t exist, and make this hobby risky for all.

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GGGMT · 31 May 2021, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

Oh ffs.

Hope you get some support to get your money back.

ffs, indeed. Who does this anymore?

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cajunron · 1 June 2021, 12:16 AM

I would go to every law enforcement agency available. Hammer him hard. Don't let up. Go online, post messages, do everything in your power to nail this scumbag. Be a royal PITA and hopefully you will get results. As others have said, never send money to unknown, non established sellers that can take your money and run. And even ID cards, drivers licenses and government photo ID's can be faked. Good luck to you.

30 May 2021, 05:02 AM	#1
Just1More "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: North America Posts: 259	AVOID berjz AVOID berjz I communicated with him via email and text. I asked for references. He gave me 2 and one responded (could be his partner- Dennis Garner --Gandxt@gmail.com) but I have had constant delays in communication and responses. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...?t=799009--NOW removed. He had one listing when I contacted him and about 128 posts. Then over the past few days, he added 2 more listings (now removed) for a Sub Date and a Batman. This was a purchse for a 39mm black OP. He had photos and I asked him to send a video. He did send a poor-quality video of the watch. I wired him the money. It took 2-3 days to clear. He says he sent the watch. He gave me 3 FedEx tracking numbers all of which are just labels created and no scan or shipment. Easy to create online. I asked for the watch to be shipped separately from the papers and tags. He said he complied but still no shipment. He said he would refund if there was no movement in FedEx. I challenged him as a scammer and of course, he took offence. I am embarrassed to be scammed. He never answers. Even from blocked numbers. He continued to list watches. He now has a date sub and batman. Name: Bernard Drina Doran. Phone: +1 (205) 287-2538. The address he told me is 9982A Hardy Dr, Creola AL 36525. I reported it to the police. Buyer beware. I know. I don't like to post bad things about people but this is horrible.

30 May 2021, 11:30 AM	#3
214270Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: United States Watch: me buy Watches Posts: 3,955	Never wire money to anyone unless it is a well-established and well-known brick and mortar store. We see these posts here just about every month where someone gets ripped off from wiring funds to a random private party. It is unfortunate to have this occur, but it is an extremely common scam. We all feel very badly when this activity gets reported here at the forum. Hopefully, Law Enforcement can assist in some manner. __________________ “The display of actual intelligence terrifies much of mankind” Rolex "some" Tudor "some" Damasko "some" Misc Pieces "some" Marathon "some" GS Spring Drive "some" Hamilton "some" Findeisen "some"

1 June 2021, 12:16 AM	#10
cajunron 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,871	I would go to every law enforcement agency available. Hammer him hard. Don't let up. Go online, post messages, do everything in your power to nail this scumbag. Be a royal PITA and hopefully you will get results. As others have said, never send money to unknown, non established sellers that can take your money and run. And even ID cards, drivers licenses and government photo ID's can be faked. Good luck to you. __________________

30 May 2021, 06:00 AM	#2
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	Oh ffs. Hope you get some support to get your money back.

31 May 2021, 01:10 AM	#4
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,302	This is terrible

31 May 2021, 01:13 AM	#5
Just1More "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: North America Posts: 259	There won't be a next time with any private sales. IF EVER--I will be asking for photos of drivers licence and another government photo ID. He is a total MOFO.

31 May 2021, 11:19 PM	#7
Humble michael "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: James Cline Location: san antonio Watch: 5711 white , 5990, Posts: 1,218	Wow, I am always amazed that people,after seeing the experience of others,send a box of cash out before receiving and inspecting anything expect a good result! Really?! Yeah sure check them out , get photos of their birth certificate and blood type , then just trust them! Wow! And what if your “ trusted” and screened as well as vetted seller sends you a piece but forgets to send the stylus or in your opinion it isn’t what he said it was but he doesn’t agree?? What possible recourse do you have- oh I know - call the popo’s or start a lawsuit- have fun. All could have been avoided by simply paying with a CC. Sure there are some who will refuse- so what? Move on to the next seller , there are plenty who will. You have got to protect yourself and “buying the seller” is good but isn’t enough. Please learn from others experience. james in San Antonio Tx

31 May 2021, 11:39 PM	#8
GGGMT 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,335	Wait, you wired him $ upon two references that he provided?? And with 128 posts here? And he’s not a trusted seller here? As I’ve said before, buyers who do this provide the opportunity for scammers without which they don’t exist, and make this hobby risky for all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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