Patek 6119

[Rollieo]

Has anyone seen these in the case, or asked their AD about either the 6119r or 6119g? Curious about your experiences with availability.

I asked at two different ADs, both said it’s hard to come by (though I feel like ADs say that about almost all watches these days). One mentioned it’s an allocation piece that only comes in pre-sold. Neither had either watch on display.


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[Danpd]

Picked mine up this week. It’s a great piece so I imagine initially demand will be strong

[QuantumOceanLawyer]

Originally Posted by Danpd

Picked mine up this week. It’s a great piece so I imagine initially demand will be strong

That is really a fantastic looking piece. Someone posted the RG and both look even better in real life than the press pictures. My AD said they expecting regular stock later this year but probably initially hard to just find in cases.


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[jamerson80]

Originally Posted by Rollieo

Has anyone seen these in the case, or asked their AD about either the 6119r or 6119g? Curious about your experiences with availability.

I asked at two different ADs, both said it’s hard to come by (though I feel like ADs say that about almost all watches these days). One mentioned it’s an allocation piece that only comes in pre-sold. Neither had either watch on display.


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Just went to my AD yesterday, and she also told me it was an allocation piece. Ended up putting me down on the interest list for it, so hopefully I'll add it this year.

Side note: are any of you aware that women's SS sport models count as SS allocation pieces in a collection (same weight as men)? I was told as such when discussing when I could get a new sports model for myself. Apparently my wife's Nautilus counts against me .

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[MadSpaniard]

Originally Posted by Danpd

Picked mine up this week. It’s a great piece so I imagine initially demand will be strong

Congrats, that is such a great looking piece. I'm very tempted. I might pull the trigger next year, hopefully supply will be forthcoming by then. Cheers.

[liljctl]

Originally Posted by jamerson80

Just went to my AD yesterday, and she also told me it was an allocation piece.

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Oh wow. Has anyone else been told that?

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[Sheldor]

Not an allocation piece. They are both very beautiful in person. They will probably not hit cases as often to make them more special.

[liljctl]

Originally Posted by Sheldor

Not an allocation piece. They are both very beautiful in person. They will probably not hit cases as often to make them more special.

I hope they do. It's an entry level pm calatrava.

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[Russell996]

My AD has both in stock and for sale, at least they were last week.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by liljctl

Oh wow. Has anyone else been told that?

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Definitely not allocation pieces, these are Patek’s new pm Calatrava and will sell in big volume, both are gorgeous.

[liljctl]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Definitely not allocation pieces, these are Patek’s new pm Calatrava and will sell in big volume, both are gorgeous.

Yep. Makes sense.

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[Danpd]

Definitely not an allocation piece, but I would imagine the initial 2-4 pieces that each AD will get will sell relatively quickly to existing customers, then there will be a wait for new deliveries

[liljctl]

Originally Posted by Danpd

Definitely not an allocation piece, but I would imagine the initial 2-4 pieces that each AD will get will sell relatively quickly to existing customers, then there will be a wait for new deliveries

I agree. It might be allocated in the sense that existing customers would have put up their hands for it.

So the first 10 or so would very likely been spoken for.

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[scurfa]

The problem is they are out the door as soon as they arrive so I can imagine a queue forming in certain AD’s, I’ve asked for a call when the next rose gold one comes in but customers are waiting for them so unless they have an event in the shop I won’t see one.

[Avidcollector]

Originally Posted by Russell996

My AD has both in stock and for sale, at least they were last week.

Which AD was this, if you don’t mind me asking?

[tinybiopsee]

Originally Posted by jamerson80

Just went to my AD yesterday, and she also told me it was an allocation piece. Ended up putting me down on the interest list for it, so hopefully I'll add it this year.

Side note: are any of you aware that women's SS sport models count as SS allocation pieces in a collection (same weight as men)? I was told as such when discussing when I could get a new sports model for myself. Apparently my wife's Nautilus counts against me .

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I was told that they are allocation pieces as well, maybe for the first few ones. I will have a WG in a week or two.

[Brian7708]

For those that have tried it on:
How does the 39mm 6119 wear compared to 37mm 5196?
(I feel like the 5196 is bigger than 37mm)
Loving that 6119 graphite dial

[jamestucker]

Originally Posted by Avidcollector

Which AD was this, if you don’t mind me asking?

https://www.pragnell.co.uk/patek-philippe/explore

[jamestucker]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Definitely not allocation pieces, these are Patek’s new pm Calatrava and will sell in big volume, both are gorgeous.

[Johnnyhayward]

[/IMG]I love mine

[Rollieo]

Originally Posted by Russell996

Definitely not allocation pieces, these are Patek’s new pm Calatrava and will sell in big volume, both are gorgeous.

Good and interesting point.

How many of these do you think Patek will produce and sell per year? I’d guess maybe 2000?


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[Rollieo]

Originally Posted by Danpd

Definitely not an allocation piece, but I would imagine the initial 2-4 pieces that each AD will get will sell relatively quickly to existing customers, then there will be a wait for new deliveries

This makes sense too. I could see interest always being higher for a new model that comes out, and then maybe goes down awhile after the release since the people that wanted them got it. So maybe after a year we’ll be able to see these in the case.

On the other hand, I guess if interest is sustained and Patek doesn’t increase production (which I could see that potentially being the case for their “cheaper” models), then what was an allocation piece at release stays an allocation piece.

I hate pulling the trigger on a watch cause you fear not being able to get it later. Should just buy what you like. But I can’t say FOMO doesn’t affect me.


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[liljctl]

EWC has one listed for U$39.9k. That's almost 10k above list.

That's absolutely insane.

[IBDOC]

Originally Posted by liljctl

EWC has one listed for U$39.9k. That's almost 10k above list.

That's absolutely insane.

Hazard pay for sticking one’s neck out by being among the first ones flipping novelties to a grey dealer. Risking blowback from PP and the AD for $10K, that’s what’s insane unless one is ready to forfeit PP collecting altogether. .

[David001]

Originally Posted by scurfa

The problem is they are out the door as soon as they arrive so I can imagine a queue forming in certain AD’s, I’ve asked for a call when the next rose gold one comes in but customers are waiting for them so unless they have an event in the shop I won’t see one.

Yeah that seems to be the current situation, in any busy AD these have already been requested, so whilst not an allocation watch the first few of each one are already spoken for.

[MrBlahBlah]

I just received a call from my AD saying they received a 6119G for me. I am going in tomorrow to scope it out.

I’m a little concerned after seeing some photos that the lugs appear to be longish, and they don’t quite curve down, so they can stick out straight as your wrist starts to curve. I have 17.5cm wrists.

It’s a significant purchase for me so it would have to not only look great (it does) but fit great as well.

Given the newness I’m not sure if I will be able to try it on first, I know they like to allow customers to “cut the seal” on the special pieces. I will find out more tomorrow. I’m not sure I can allow myself to buy it without trying it on first.


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[liljctl]

Originally Posted by MrBlahBlah

I know they like to allow customers to “cut the seal” on the special pieces. I will find out more tomorrow.

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Cut the seal and breathe in the Genevan air. I laughed the first time my AD said that.

Told him to just cut the crap the second time.

[QuantumOceanLawyer]

Definitely not an allocation piece. Just went into my AD today and found this waiting. This watch is so much better in person than Patek’s PR photos.


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[Robine]

Nice pic.

The watch is monochrome but not as dull as a 5196G. The various textures make it a very complex yet subtle design.

I guess it will wear larger than its size.

[QuantumOceanLawyer]

It has almost a vertical texture to it so depending on the angle and how the light hits it the dial goes from silver to black. The watch seems almost plane from the press photos but it’s very dynamic and elegant in person.


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