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Hulatime · 9 July 2021, 09:13 AM

I have been out of the watch game for several years now, but am getting the itch. The ADs I've bought from in the past are no longer Rolex ADs, so this is a problem as I tend to collect SS sports models (like everyone else!).

How difficult is it to find these 2 models from an AD right now? (I am shocked at how much they've risen in price, too.)

Thanks for your thoughts.

JRell · 9 July 2021, 09:28 AM

Depends where you live. I live in a smaller market, and either black sub or sub date I am estimating around 6 months to a year. I would reach out to local ADs and see what they say.

Seddyspaghetti · 9 July 2021, 09:35 AM

Medium difficulty.

RealMadrid1988 · 9 July 2021, 10:30 AM

All models seem to get harder by the month. Compared to a white Daytona, it’s quite easy. Compared to a two-tone Datejust, quite hard. Beyond general statements like that, there are too many random factors (location, rapport with SA, etc) to give you any sort of reliable information. It will also depend on which model you’re after—the LV will obviously be the hardest, and then there are conflicting reports of whether the no-date Sub is harder or easier to source than the Sub date.

WatchNutcase · 9 July 2021, 10:48 AM

Not sure but if you do get the chance go no date. Unless you have a one watch collection you may preferred date.

Tele59 · 9 July 2021, 10:52 AM

Don't worry about it. Get the first available.

Kyle3130 · 9 July 2021, 11:03 AM

I called my preferred AD when the new Submariner was released last September 1st. They called me a little over two weeks ago and I purchased the 124060. It took a little less than 10 months.

Gab27 · 9 July 2021, 11:14 AM

Moderately difficult in most cases without a strong existing relationship. The markup from secondary dealers isn't insignificant but also less than stainless GMTs.

Brny11 · 9 July 2021, 11:40 AM

Date.

smithsj716 · 9 July 2021, 11:46 AM

Take whatever you can get

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EEpro · 9 July 2021, 12:11 PM

Date!

Boaters · 9 July 2021, 12:41 PM

I need the date.

Mifune · 9 July 2021, 12:45 PM

you mean new Sub or sub date... Submariner every time.

JRell · 9 July 2021, 12:54 PM

I don’t think the OP is asking for sub or sub date. The OP wants to know how long it will wait for either of them.

EEpro · 9 July 2021, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRell

I don’t think the OP is asking for sub or sub date. The OP wants to know how long it will wait for either of them.

You're right! The headline and the text fooled me.

OP, submariner (no date) is easier to get. Express genuine interest. Make a connection with a person. Buy something for your wife or mother. Get the call in 3 months or so to pick up your sub.

I was told explicitly that sub, air king, and explorer I are held back as first purchase / relationship establishment pieces.

JRell · 9 July 2021, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EEpro

You're right! The headline and the text fooled me.

OP, submariner (no date) is easier to get. Express genuine interest. Make a connection with a person. Buy something for your wife or mother. Get the call in 3 months or so to pick up your sub.

I was told explicitly that sub, air king, and explorer I are held back as first purchase / relationship establishment pieces.

Got me too! Interesting because my AD told me since the néw release they both are hard to get, about even. Plus there is more date options and only one without the date. Probably depends on the AD. I do think in general the date had been harder to get. All SS are now for that matter. It doesn’t sound like the OP cares either way, so I would just tell them you will take whatever they can get in first.

JacksonRain · 9 July 2021, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EEpro

Date!

Is this what you got with your Daytona money, brother ?

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EEpro · 9 July 2021, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacksonRain

Is this what you got with your Daytona money, brother ?

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Precisely!

JacksonRain · 9 July 2021, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EEpro

Precisely!

Oh man oh man. Well done. Enjoy.

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watchtabs · 9 July 2021, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EEpro

Date!

Man everywhere I turn … the temptation follows me.. come on Brad..

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EEpro · 9 July 2021, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by watchtabs

Man everywhere I turn … the temptation follows me.. come on Brad..

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Just when you think you're out... it pulls you back in!

watchtabs · 9 July 2021, 01:26 PM

Nowadays you gotta take your sales guy to dinner, buy him a bottle of wine (better not be grocery bought), and go to their kids baseball game.

And name your first born after the sales guy of course.

Then you should be set

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Shazbot302 · 9 July 2021, 01:30 PM

Get the first one you can get your hands on. Personally, I’d go for the no date every time. It’s the purest iteration of the reference. It’s simply perfection.

WatchtraderNY · 9 July 2021, 03:03 PM

Date!

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scombs263 · 9 July 2021, 03:43 PM

No question. DATE.

TimeOnHand · 9 July 2021, 04:25 PM

If Sub was going to be my only watch then I would get the date. But if you have a few then the Classic Submariner No Date is the winner !

Cauhauna · 9 July 2021, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeOnHand

If Sub was going to be my only watch then I would get the date. But if you have a few then the Classic Submariner No Date is the winner !

as a 1 watch owner of a sub date who is now expanding the collection after 5 years of daily wear, i agree with this sentiment.

djona · 9 July 2021, 05:04 PM

No date

Highend7 · 9 July 2021, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watchtabs

Nowadays you gotta take your sales guy to dinner, buy him a bottle of wine (better not be grocery bought), and go to their kids baseball game.

And name your first born after the sales guy of course.

Then you should be set

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So this is the new hack...

mattidk · 9 July 2021, 05:44 PM

I vote for the no-date version
From the sub date owner :D

9 July 2021, 09:13 AM	#1
Hulatime "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Calif Posts: 348	New Submariner Date or No Date? I have been out of the watch game for several years now, but am getting the itch. The ADs I've bought from in the past are no longer Rolex ADs, so this is a problem as I tend to collect SS sports models (like everyone else!). How difficult is it to find these 2 models from an AD right now? (I am shocked at how much they've risen in price, too.) Thanks for your thoughts.

9 July 2021, 09:28 AM	#2
JRell "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 126710BLNR Jubilee Posts: 7,067	Depends where you live. I live in a smaller market, and either black sub or sub date I am estimating around 6 months to a year. I would reach out to local ADs and see what they say. __________________ 126710 BLNR Jubilee

9 July 2021, 11:03 AM	#7
Kyle3130 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,960	I called my preferred AD when the new Submariner was released last September 1st. They called me a little over two weeks ago and I purchased the 124060. It took a little less than 10 months. __________________

9 July 2021, 12:11 PM	#11
EEpro 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Brad Location: Purdue Watch: Daytona Posts: 9,241	Date! __________________ ♛ ✠ Ω 2FA Active

9 July 2021, 12:54 PM	#14
JRell "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Pittsburgh Watch: 126710BLNR Jubilee Posts: 7,067	I don’t think the OP is asking for sub or sub date. The OP wants to know how long it will wait for either of them. __________________ 126710 BLNR Jubilee

9 July 2021, 09:35 AM	#3
Seddyspaghetti "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Uranus Watch: 116500LN Posts: 4,789	Medium difficulty.

9 July 2021, 10:30 AM	#4
RealMadrid1988 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: NYC Watch: Daytona \| BLNR Posts: 610	All models seem to get harder by the month. Compared to a white Daytona, it’s quite easy. Compared to a two-tone Datejust, quite hard. Beyond general statements like that, there are too many random factors (location, rapport with SA, etc) to give you any sort of reliable information. It will also depend on which model you’re after—the LV will obviously be the hardest, and then there are conflicting reports of whether the no-date Sub is harder or easier to source than the Sub date.

9 July 2021, 10:48 AM	#5
WatchNutcase Banned Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Matt Location: UK / EU & Canada Watch: Sub 114060 Posts: 1,349	Not sure but if you do get the chance go no date. Unless you have a one watch collection you may preferred date.

9 July 2021, 10:52 AM	#6
Tele59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: somewhere in USA Posts: 169	Don't worry about it. Get the first available.

9 July 2021, 11:14 AM	#8
Gab27 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: MD/NC Watch: 114060 Posts: 2,591	Moderately difficult in most cases without a strong existing relationship. The markup from secondary dealers isn't insignificant but also less than stainless GMTs.

9 July 2021, 11:40 AM	#9
Brny11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Brian Location: Florida Posts: 2,460	Date.

9 July 2021, 11:46 AM	#10
smithsj716 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southern CA Posts: 67	Take whatever you can get Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 July 2021, 12:41 PM	#12
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,652	I need the date.

9 July 2021, 12:45 PM	#13
Mifune Banned Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: here AND there... Posts: 2,240	you mean new Sub or sub date... Submariner every time.

9 July 2021, 01:26 PM	#22
watchtabs "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Charlie Location: Miami Posts: 1,534	New Submariner Date or No Date? Nowadays you gotta take your sales guy to dinner, buy him a bottle of wine (better not be grocery bought), and go to their kids baseball game. And name your first born after the sales guy of course. Then you should be set Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ I have all the grails I could ever want, but the hunt will always continue .

9 July 2021, 01:30 PM	#23
Shazbot302 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: CA Posts: 351	Get the first one you can get your hands on. Personally, I’d go for the no date every time. It’s the purest iteration of the reference. It’s simply perfection.

9 July 2021, 03:03 PM	#24
WatchtraderNY 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 338	Date! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 July 2021, 03:43 PM	#25
scombs263 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: COMBS#263 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Watch: Rolex SD43 Posts: 2,193	No question. DATE.

9 July 2021, 04:25 PM	#26
TimeOnHand "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Hong Kong Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 4,468	If Sub was going to be my only watch then I would get the date. But if you have a few then the Classic Submariner No Date is the winner ! __________________ Instagram: timeonhand1010

9 July 2021, 05:04 PM	#28
djona "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Watch: N/A Posts: 488	No date

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