16610 vs 5513

[oscarmariner]

Hi everyone,

assuming the following watches have more or less the same price. Which one would you buy? 16610 (b&p) or 5513 (only watch)?

Side question: the 5513's clasp doesn't have any clasp code or year engraved. is that possible??

[SDREW22]

Of these two I would go with the 16610

[oscarmariner]

Originally Posted by SDREW22

Of these two I would go with the 16610

thanks for the answer. Why you prefer the 16610?

[SDREW22]

Box and papers
Luminova
5513 is missing the pip

[Dan S]

I think we need to know a lot more about the 5513.

[1675-David]

Id take a nice tritium 5513 anytime over a 16610. However before pulling the trigger post some better pics of the 5513, those left side lugs look like they took steroids..

[yukosaturno]

Honestly? depends on the use.

Watch for watch, I would go with the 5513, but for daily use, the 16610 is better, IMO.

[1665fan]

Yea if the 5513 is legit I’d take it, but if anything was off the 16610 is not a bad other option

[oscarmariner]

the 5513 comes from a friend's collection. I think is 100% legit. Here a picture of the lugs (they don't look that thick in reality...probably a bad picture).

[Dan S]

Usually people have a preference for a given model, since these two are dramatically different (date/no-date, acrylic/sapphire). But apparently you don't have a preference and mainly care about value. Well, the value of the 5513 hinges on details. If the watch is what it appears to be, the bezel insert is a replacement, which already knocks off a couple grand in value. There are many other issues that have huge effects on value, but the photos and info provided aren't sufficient to evaluate it.

[oscarmariner]

Originally Posted by Dan S

Usually people have a preference for a given model, since these two are dramatically different (date/no-date, acrylic/sapphire). But apparently you don't have a preference and mainly care about value. Well, the value of the 5513 hinges on details. If the watch is what it appears to be, the bezel insert is a replacement, which already knocks off a couple grand in value. There are many other issues that have huge effects on value, but the photos and info provided aren't sufficient to evaluate it.

Thanks Dan, I don't actually care about value. The insert is a hooked 5 probably period correct for a 1976 5513 (as far as I know, but yes... it looks super crisp compared to the watch case). I will add other picts later on.

[L.K Johnson]

As a vintage freak I would go for a plexi 4 digit ref especially when it is without the white gold surroundings like this 5513…but if you want a more traditionally looking sub then the cyclops 16610 might be what you are looking for…?

[oscarmariner]

other pict:

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by oscarmariner

Thanks Dan, I don't actually care about value. The insert is a hooked 5 probably period correct for a 1976 5513 (as far as I know, but yes... it looks super crisp compared to the watch case). I will add other picts later on.

You don’t care about value, but that 5513 is probably worth a few thousand more.


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[Dries]

Originally Posted by L.K Johnson

As a vintage freak I would go for a plexi 4 digit ref especially when it is without the white gold surroundings like this 5513…but if you want a more traditionally looking sub then the cyclops 16610 might be what you are looking for…?

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[FTX I]

5513

[baumare]

Between the two reference I would go with a 5513.
Regarding this example, from the scarce photos, looks like a nice Maxi dial with the open six and the S of Submariner.
For the bracelet it should have the letter A in the clasp, if is a 1976 as you stated.

If is a friend why don't get more photos to have a better opinion?

[zapokee]

I always lean toward four digits.

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by baumare

Regarding this example, from the scarce photos, looks like a nice Maxi dial with the open six and the S of Submariner.

I think we need better photos, it doesn't look like a Maxi I to me. The middle line in the E looks very long, like a serif dial.

[mbc]

Originally Posted by Dan S

I think we need better photos, it doesn't look like a Maxi I to me. The middle line in the E looks very long, like a serif dial.

Agree that we need better photos, but concur -- looks like a serif dial to me, not a Maxi

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by FTX I

5513

Ditto

[Greglaw]

Get the one you like better. Who cares what anyone else thinks? Seriously.

[baumare]

Originally Posted by Dan S

I think we need better photos, it doesn't look like a Maxi I to me. The middle line in the E looks very long, like a serif dial.

Sorry, you're correct about serif, from the photo I thought the coronet was slimmer and didn't look at the E

[oscarmariner]

I confirm it is a serif dial, probably a replacement as the watch is a 50xxx million serial.

[oscarmariner]

"I confirm it is a serif dial, probably a replacement as the watch is a 50xxx million serial".

Even if someone said that is not rare to see genuine serif-dial until 50xx serial

[JParm]

16610 for daily.

If I'm going for a 5513, I'd be looking for something that looked a bit more vintage than this example (faded bezel, yellowing indices, etc.)...but that's just me!