Older Rolex Sub and GMT Identification Help

[PhilLynott]

Anyone have potential references for these two or approximate era or any info? I'm trying to help a friend who lives out of state they're a part of an inheritance. As of now these are the only pictures I have I asked if she can hunt down more images so will post those if they come.

Did they make a two tone black bezel GMT during a certain era or was that bezel a different color at some point?

Any help would be appreciated!

[PhilLynott]

Think I found the GMT - a 16753. Didn't realize they made a black bezel two tone in the 80s, interesting.

[springer]

The GMT is a GMT two-tone, 12K and stainless steel. The 1675 models di not have the quick set date feature.

The 16753 didn't arrive until 1980 which had the quick set date feature. The black bezel insert on the GMT came with gold numbers which often faded to a very light yellow to silver color.

The Submariner is a model 5513 from the early 1970s.

If you remove the bracelets from these two watches, you will find:

A) look between the two lugs at the 6 o'clock position to see the model number

b) look between the lugs at the 12 o'clock position to see the serial number

[PhilLynott]

Originally Posted by springer

The GMT is a GMT two-tone, 12K and stainless steel. The 1675 models di not have the quick set date feature.

The 16753 didn't arrive until 1980 which had the quick set date feature. The black bezel insert on the GMT came with gold numbers which often faded to a very light yellow to silver color.

The Submariner is a model 5513 from the early 1970s.

If you remove the bracelets from these two watches, you will find:

A) look between the two lugs at the 6 o'clock position to see the model number

b) look between the lugs at the 12 o'clock position to see the serial number

Thanks so much for your help!

I'll see if she's able to get the bracelet off and if not I'll do so next time I visit to confirm but I think you have it nailed.

[Dan S]

Additional info on the 5513. The particular style is known as "serif dial". The hands and bezel insert were replaced by Rolex at a past service. I can't really see the bracelet.

[PhilLynott]

Originally Posted by Dan S

Additional info on the 5513. The particular style is known as "serif dial". The hands and bezel insert were replaced by Rolex at a past service. I can't really see the bracelet.

Awesome thanks!

Since the bezel insert was already replaced is it not a big deal to replace again since its not original and clearly not in good condition or best just left as is?

Also from my research the dial looks to be original since if it was replaced during a service the markers would be different is that right?

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by PhilLynott

Also from my research the dial looks to be original since if it was replaced during a service the markers would be different is that right?

Most likely, it's certainly earlier than the hands and insert. But to say if it's original, we'd need to at least know the first few digits of the serial number.