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DOUBLE 0 SE7EN · 21 August 2021, 08:08 AM

How this will effect the sales of Pam233 in the used market? Do you think that prices will go up like the hulk or will their prices stay the same?

enjoythemusic · 21 August 2021, 08:36 AM

It could go up, or go down. Ten years from now could be double, or the same. Hard to tell on demand, check back in a few years,

Drkitch109 · 21 August 2021, 08:47 AM

Feel like PAMs have taken a hit with the whole in-house thing kicking around

Joearch · 21 August 2021, 01:57 PM

233 is a fine watch. IMHO one of the best watches in the last 25 years. Pure design. If they are not making new ones the existing watches could only be more valuable. For me, not what is is worth, just that it is so well done.

enjoythemusic · 21 August 2021, 10:43 PM

Gotta say, i went with the 1033 with 9011 movement and she has been the most erratic timekeeper of any timepiece ever owned after over two decades as an enthusiast. And yes, it's been to service, twice.

Basically, it is inconsistent for the first 48 hours of use until it 'settles down'. Yesterday was day 1 and the 1033 was gaining a lot of time (30 seconds after a few hours). So I 'reset' it last night and this morning it is behind about 20 seconds. So just reset it again and we'll see it goes during today.

In hindsight, wish I had gotten the 233 instead of the 1033. Ah well.

Zipdog · 22 August 2021, 01:00 AM

Shows to be available for purchase on USA website for the past week!

walds11 · 22 August 2021, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zipdog

Shows to be available for purchase on USA website for the past week!

Yep.

https://www.panerai.com/us/en/collec...mt---44mm.html

Greglaw · 22 August 2021, 11:52 PM

Another “breaking news” post. Oh, nope, it wasn’t. But, it got attention!

brandrea · 22 August 2021, 11:55 PM

So it hasn’t been discontinued

enjoythemusic · 23 August 2021, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

So it hasn’t been discontinued

Well... for the moment it is in stock.

cobradriver · 23 August 2021, 05:56 AM

To the OP - Where did you hear it was discontinued? I just did an internet search on “Panerai 233 discontinued” and found pasts going back as far as 2008 on various forums where sales people had claimed it was discontinued/etc. - seems a perennial rumor.

bonovox · 23 August 2021, 09:02 AM

Regardless, it's a terrific Panerai reference.

p_mcgee · 23 August 2021, 11:10 AM

I got one when they first came out, was a great hype watch. I still love the shape more than the size, and the tunnel strap works wonderfully with it. However when PAM came out with so many models like the 510 with more basic 8 day movements, the value of the 233 took a hit.

DOUBLE 0 SE7EN · 25 August 2021, 09:03 AM

Yes, for a few weeks the Instagram account said that it’s out of stock .. and also my ad said the same.. but today we can see that they are back in stock ..

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Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Well... for the moment it is in stock.

sokoloka · 26 August 2021, 01:14 AM

Out of stock isn't the same as discontinued.

inadeje · 26 August 2021, 01:36 AM

I have the even more exclusive Fiddy 127. It hasn’t moved the needle on price appreciation in around 18 months. So I’m not sure a mass produced piece like the 233 will fair better. I could be wrong and have no idea what price the 233 is at compared to retail.

KBM · 26 August 2021, 05:12 AM

Likely not discontinued, but since we are talking about it, here is a gratuitous wrist shot of my favorite pam.

Kevin of Larchmont · 26 August 2021, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Drkitch109

Feel like PAMs have taken a hit with the whole in-house thing kicking around

Man I hope so, I’m in the mood to buy some watches.

DOUBLE 0 SE7EN · 26 August 2021, 08:26 AM

Great strap.. what was the name of it? Or the brand?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBM

Likely not discontinued, but since we are talking about it, here is a gratuitous wrist shot of my favorite pam.

KBM · 26 August 2021, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DOUBLE 0 SE7EN

Great strap.. what was the name of it? Or the brand?

Thanks! It's a storm blue strap with natural stitching, from Toshi Straps. One of my favorites.

Greglaw · 26 August 2021, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBM

Likely not discontinued, but since we are talking about it, here is a gratuitous wrist shot of my favorite pam.

That 233 is so awesome!

KBM · 26 August 2021, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greglaw

That 233 is so awesome!

Thank you!

DOUBLE 0 SE7EN · 26 August 2021, 09:11 PM

Unfortunately he does not make it anymore.. couldn't find it on his list..

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBM

Thanks! It's a storm blue strap with natural stitching, from Toshi Straps. One of my favorites.

nice2cu2 · 26 August 2021, 09:22 PM

I wanted to buy one from my local AD. They told me it is discontinued and 1359 also discontinued.

DOUBLE 0 SE7EN · 28 August 2021, 07:26 PM

Yesterday I asked again.. they told the same .. only a few ads have it in stock.. the last ones..

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Originally Posted by nice2cu2

I wanted to buy one from my local AD. They told me it is discontinued and 1359 also discontinued.

Watch Expert · 28 August 2021, 08:35 PM

Panerai join the scarcity game; hold on tight the ride just began

Watch Expert · 28 August 2021, 09:31 PM

Discontinued is effective when demand is high and production is low,
but if it was discontinued after hundreds of thousands being pumped in, it will not have much desirable outcome.

Urosfan · 29 August 2021, 01:58 AM

I like the 233 it is fantastic

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

dandigangi · 29 August 2021, 02:07 AM

It could spike a little but PAM is watered down with so many similar models. They just don't appreciate well or quickly. Always has been a more niche brand so enthusiasts might pay more but regular ole' Joes will look at alternatives quick. The demand just isn't there.

Definitely taking the pessimist side here.

jjvd21 · 9 September 2021, 09:03 PM

233 is my favorite Pam I own, the dot dial once properly serviced with newly designed parts hopefully rises in price.

21 August 2021, 08:08 AM	#1
DOUBLE 0 SE7EN "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: KAAN Location: ISTANBUL Watch: Explorer-PAM233 Posts: 1,652	Finally Pam 233 discontinued.. How this will effect the sales of Pam233 in the used market? Do you think that prices will go up like the hulk or will their prices stay the same?

21 August 2021, 08:36 AM	#2
enjoythemusic 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,697	It could go up, or go down. Ten years from now could be double, or the same. Hard to tell on demand, check back in a few years, __________________ __________________ Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

21 August 2021, 10:43 PM	#5
enjoythemusic 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,697	Gotta say, i went with the 1033 with 9011 movement and she has been the most erratic timekeeper of any timepiece ever owned after over two decades as an enthusiast. And yes, it's been to service, twice. Basically, it is inconsistent for the first 48 hours of use until it 'settles down'. Yesterday was day 1 and the 1033 was gaining a lot of time (30 seconds after a few hours). So I 'reset' it last night and this morning it is behind about 20 seconds. So just reset it again and we'll see it goes during today. In hindsight, wish I had gotten the 233 instead of the 1033. Ah well. __________________ __________________ Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

22 August 2021, 01:00 AM	#6
Zipdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 39	233 Shows to be available for purchase on USA website for the past week!

26 August 2021, 01:14 AM	#15
sokoloka "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Real Name: Eric Location: San Diego Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 1,547	Out of stock isn't the same as discontinued. __________________ Instagram: @rough.af

21 August 2021, 08:47 AM	#3
Drkitch109 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: New York, New Yor Posts: 100	Feel like PAMs have taken a hit with the whole in-house thing kicking around

21 August 2021, 01:57 PM	#4
Joearch 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Joe Location: Los Angeles Watch: Daytona + GMT BLNR Posts: 4,964	233 is a fine watch. IMHO one of the best watches in the last 25 years. Pure design. If they are not making new ones the existing watches could only be more valuable. For me, not what is is worth, just that it is so well done.

22 August 2021, 11:52 PM	#8
Greglaw Banned Join Date: May 2020 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 667	Another “breaking news” post. Oh, nope, it wasn’t. But, it got attention!

22 August 2021, 11:55 PM	#9
brandrea 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 79,647	So it hasn’t been discontinued

23 August 2021, 05:56 AM	#11
cobradriver "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: USA Posts: 20	To the OP - Where did you hear it was discontinued? I just did an internet search on “Panerai 233 discontinued” and found pasts going back as far as 2008 on various forums where sales people had claimed it was discontinued/etc. - seems a perennial rumor.

23 August 2021, 09:02 AM	#12
bonovox 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Colorado Watch: your time Posts: 1,451	Regardless, it's a terrific Panerai reference.

23 August 2021, 11:10 AM	#13
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	I got one when they first came out, was a great hype watch. I still love the shape more than the size, and the tunnel strap works wonderfully with it. However when PAM came out with so many models like the 510 with more basic 8 day movements, the value of the 233 took a hit.

26 August 2021, 01:36 AM	#16
inadeje 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami Watch: me lose count. Posts: 6,015	I have the even more exclusive Fiddy 127. It hasn’t moved the needle on price appreciation in around 18 months. So I’m not sure a mass produced piece like the 233 will fair better. I could be wrong and have no idea what price the 233 is at compared to retail. __________________ ♛ 218206 Roman ♛ 116689 ♛ 126710BLRO ♛ 16520 white ♛ 16523 white ♛ 16610 ♛ 5513 Birth Year - ✠ Patek Philippe 5980/1R-001 - AP 26331ST Panda - Panerai Bronzo 671, 111 & 183, Ω Speedmaster 1957 Broad Arrow, Cartier Santos XL - Montblanc TimeWalker Chrono 41

26 August 2021, 05:12 AM	#17
KBM 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,481	Likely not discontinued, but since we are talking about it, here is a gratuitous wrist shot of my favorite pam.

26 August 2021, 09:22 PM	#24
nice2cu2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Tallinn Posts: 136	I wanted to buy one from my local AD. They told me it is discontinued and 1359 also discontinued.

28 August 2021, 08:35 PM	#26
Watch Expert Banned Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: UK Watch: Rolex GMT Posts: 54	Panerai join the scarcity game; hold on tight the ride just began

28 August 2021, 09:31 PM	#27
Watch Expert Banned Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: UK Watch: Rolex GMT Posts: 54	PAM 312 has been discontinued since 2018 Discontinued is effective when demand is high and production is low, but if it was discontinued after hundreds of thousands being pumped in, it will not have much desirable outcome. Attached Images

29 August 2021, 01:58 AM	#28
Urosfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Watch: Me now Posts: 19,439	I like the 233 it is fantastic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 August 2021, 02:07 AM	#29
dandigangi "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Real Name: Dan (DD) Location: Chicago, IL USA Watch: Batman Posts: 375	It could spike a little but PAM is watered down with so many similar models. They just don't appreciate well or quickly. Always has been a more niche brand so enthusiasts might pay more but regular ole' Joes will look at alternatives quick. The demand just isn't there. Definitely taking the pessimist side here. __________________ + DocuSign Eng Manager + React Loop Conf Organizer + 700hp BMW M6 GC Current: [116710BLNR, PAM212, Tag Monaco, Navitimer, Casioak]

9 September 2021, 09:03 PM	#30
jjvd21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Chicago Posts: 24	233 is my favorite Pam I own, the dot dial once properly serviced with newly designed parts hopefully rises in price.

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