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lavjack · 31 August 2006, 07:10 PM

Hello everyone,

This is my first time here, as I´m trying to find more details about Rolex in my possesion. My friend had it for 15 years but apparently it dates back to 1946. However, there is no obvious serial number. On the face is says "Rolex, Oyster Perpetual, Date" & "Superlative Chromometer, Officially Certified". there is nothing on the back apart from 14K stamp. The bracelet fastener has the same stamp on the left and below the stamp it´s "U.S.A." and Rolex and crown in the center.

I took some pictures, links below.

http://f3.yahoofs.com/mingle/44f6a3d...4Vr9EBMvnzQ93s

http://f3.yahoofs.com/mingle/44f6a3d...4Vr9EBSABRAwiB

Any help will be appreciated. TIA

Gedanken · 31 August 2006, 09:12 PM

I get "page not found" when I click the links.

padi56 · 31 August 2006, 09:22 PM

Ditto

lavjack · 31 August 2006, 11:00 PM

Sorry about that, hopefully this link will work:

http://360.yahoo.com/profile-ePKoQys8dLSZYaqpYaOgIs_8

Gedanken · 31 August 2006, 11:21 PM

Well, it appears to be a DateJust with a Thunderbird bezel, which was only introduced in 1956, not 1946. Also, at the time, Rolex was using 18K and the "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified" label was only introduced in the mid-50's IIRC - before that it read "Officially Certified Chronometer".

So at very least the date's wrong. As for the rest of the watch, the photos are too small for any clear assessment, and the 14K marking seems wrong to me - I believe Rolex switched to 18K well before that.

padi56 · 31 August 2006, 11:57 PM

Well can assure you that watch is not from the 1940s,picture is poor if watch is all gold looks like a DJ late 60s- early 70s.Now watch should have serial between lugs at 6 O'Clock model ref at 12 O'Clock,then we could date more accurately.As to the 14ct gold American market only not 100% sure think this was a alternative to 18ct used up till 80s after 18ct only

1 September 2006, 12:06 AM

I think Rolex continued to use 14kt gold until the late 60s, but I may be mistaken. Also, it looks as if the date is printed in black. If it was from the 50s, the date would be printed in red, I believe.

I'm guessing it's from the 60s at the very least.

lavjack · 1 September 2006, 12:31 AM

Thanks for your replies.
Watch looks like this one: http://www.princetonwatches.com/shop/PVU021.asp, but no serial number on face, also frame of the face has more prominant markers at the 5 mins intervals and bracelet is made of 5 lines, with lager links at the edges.

Shall I take it as a fake?

Gedanken · 1 September 2006, 12:33 AM

If you've actually got it in your hands, the simplest thing is to take it to the nearest Rolex Service Centre and they can tell you if it's fake. if it's not, they should be able to provide you with some information on it.

lavjack · 1 September 2006, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gedanken

If you've actually got it in your hands, the simplest thing is to take it to the nearest Rolex Service Centre and they can tell you if it's fake. if it's not, they should be able to provide you with some information on it.

I was affraid of losing it, as it is part of inheritance. But, will do, it seems to be the best solution.

Thanks again and good day to all.

Gedanken · 1 September 2006, 12:44 AM

Nah, if it's a Rolex Service Centre, you're not going to lose it. All the best!

lavjack · 1 September 2006, 01:06 AM

Back again :), I removed the bracelet and there is a number on the side (at 6 o´clock) and it reads 29620?7 (questionmark is probably Nº3, but not sure).

Wolfgang427 · 1 September 2006, 02:25 AM

Your watch's serial# dates the watch to 1970.

padi56 · 1 September 2006, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lavjack

Back again :), I removed the bracelet and there is a number on the side (at 6 o´clock) and it reads 29620?7 (questionmark is probably Nº3, but not sure).

Yes as wolfgang said that watch in the second half of 1970.

JJ Irani · 1 September 2006, 04:38 AM

Hi LJ,

Welcome to TRF. Well, looks like you've got all the advice you need. Good luck with the watch.

Cheers - JJ

Uncle-AJ · 1 September 2006, 05:07 AM

Welcome to TRF LJ, I hope the previous information answered your questions.

lavjack · 1 September 2006, 06:45 AM

I learned so much today :) Thank you all!

C.J. · 1 September 2006, 08:04 AM

Welcome to TRF, and good luck with the watch

31 August 2006, 07:10 PM	#1
lavjack "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 6	Any and all opinions will be helpfull Hello everyone, This is my first time here, as I´m trying to find more details about Rolex in my possesion. My friend had it for 15 years but apparently it dates back to 1946. However, there is no obvious serial number. On the face is says "Rolex, Oyster Perpetual, Date" & "Superlative Chromometer, Officially Certified". there is nothing on the back apart from 14K stamp. The bracelet fastener has the same stamp on the left and below the stamp it´s "U.S.A." and Rolex and crown in the center. I took some pictures, links below. http://f3.yahoofs.com/mingle/44f6a3d...4Vr9EBMvnzQ93s http://f3.yahoofs.com/mingle/44f6a3d...4Vr9EBSABRAwiB Any help will be appreciated. TIA

31 August 2006, 09:12 PM	#2
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	I get "page not found" when I click the links. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

31 August 2006, 09:22 PM	#3
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,035	Ditto __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

31 August 2006, 11:21 PM	#5
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Well, it appears to be a DateJust with a Thunderbird bezel, which was only introduced in 1956, not 1946. Also, at the time, Rolex was using 18K and the "Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified" label was only introduced in the mid-50's IIRC - before that it read "Officially Certified Chronometer". So at very least the date's wrong. As for the rest of the watch, the photos are too small for any clear assessment, and the 14K marking seems wrong to me - I believe Rolex switched to 18K well before that. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

31 August 2006, 11:57 PM	#6
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,035	Well can assure you that watch is not from the 1940s,picture is poor if watch is all gold looks like a DJ late 60s- early 70s.Now watch should have serial between lugs at 6 O'Clock model ref at 12 O'Clock,then we could date more accurately.As to the 14ct gold American market only not 100% sure think this was a alternative to 18ct used up till 80s after 18ct only __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

31 August 2006, 11:00 PM	#4
lavjack "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 6	Sorry about that, hopefully this link will work: http://360.yahoo.com/profile-ePKoQys8dLSZYaqpYaOgIs_8

1 September 2006, 12:06 AM	#7
Atomic Guest Posts: n/a	I think Rolex continued to use 14kt gold until the late 60s, but I may be mistaken. Also, it looks as if the date is printed in black. If it was from the 50s, the date would be printed in red, I believe. I'm guessing it's from the 60s at the very least.

1 September 2006, 12:31 AM	#8
lavjack "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 6	Thanks for your replies. Watch looks like this one: http://www.princetonwatches.com/shop/PVU021.asp, but no serial number on face, also frame of the face has more prominant markers at the 5 mins intervals and bracelet is made of 5 lines, with lager links at the edges. Shall I take it as a fake? Last edited by lavjack; 1 September 2006 at 12:33 AM.. Reason: spelling

1 September 2006, 12:33 AM	#9
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	If you've actually got it in your hands, the simplest thing is to take it to the nearest Rolex Service Centre and they can tell you if it's fake. if it's not, they should be able to provide you with some information on it. __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

1 September 2006, 12:44 AM	#11
Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Nah, if it's a Rolex Service Centre, you're not going to lose it. All the best! __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

1 September 2006, 01:06 AM	#12
lavjack "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 6	Back again :), I removed the bracelet and there is a number on the side (at 6 o´clock) and it reads 29620?7 (questionmark is probably Nº3, but not sure).

1 September 2006, 02:25 AM	#13
Wolfgang427 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Wolfgang Location: New Jersey. Watch: Rolex Tudor Omega Posts: 5,592	Your watch's serial# dates the watch to 1970.

1 September 2006, 04:38 AM	#15
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Hi LJ, Welcome to TRF. Well, looks like you've got all the advice you need. Good luck with the watch. Cheers - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

1 September 2006, 05:07 AM	#16
Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	Welcome to TRF LJ, I hope the previous information answered your questions. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10

1 September 2006, 06:45 AM	#17
lavjack "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 6	I learned so much today :) Thank you all!

1 September 2006, 08:04 AM	#18
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	Welcome to TRF, and good luck with the watch __________________ Me? I'm still looking for Kokomo. I just hope that damn golfer isn't there

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