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thegrizz · 6 November 2021, 04:57 AM

This is submariner #2 for me and the finish is not like the previous submariner.

This one seems to have much more of a brushed look the the tune that it looks streaky. It reminds of a Pelagos that needs to be wiped.

Not sure what’s going on? Any suggestions?

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Mendota · 6 November 2021, 05:00 AM

Someone else talked about this recently. Have you washed it with soap and water yet? That seemed to be a general consensus with the other thread. Not sure about yours, but in the other thread oils or something else likely got on there and created the streaky appearance.

SaddleSC · 6 November 2021, 05:04 AM

Do you have an electron microscope so we can really get a sense of the topography of the brushwork?
These pictures aren't zoomed in enough for me to tell :)

thegrizz · 6 November 2021, 05:10 AM

Sorry y’all posted from my phone. It kept telling me the file size was too large so I had to reduce them to this.

Yes already tried the dawn and water. It’s like a weird film. It’s not slick when I run my fingers on it. It’s not sticky per se but like it has some friction.

S’portEye · 6 November 2021, 05:22 AM

Try to enjoy your watch. Congrats on a great purchase.

Sandpit · 6 November 2021, 05:29 AM

Had this been polished by somebody? I ask because none of the edges look that sharp. Maybe it’s the magnification though.

thegrizz · 6 November 2021, 06:12 AM

Not sure I was wondering if it received a bad polish somewhere. I bought it grey but couldn’t see this on the pictures provided. The finishing on it reminds me
Of a Squale.

I’m about done buying grey at this point.

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beshannon · 6 November 2021, 06:26 AM

I really think the images need to much closer to really tell.

drrd · 6 November 2021, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrizz

This is submariner #2 for me and the finish is not like the previous submariner.

This one seems to have much more of a brushed look the the tune that it looks streaky. It reminds of a Pelagos that needs to be wiped.

Not sure what’s going on? Any suggestions?

I guess you didn't buy it new from an AD.

That doesn't look like a factory finish.

Tools · 6 November 2021, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrizz

Not sure I was wondering if it received a bad polish somewhere. I bought it grey but couldn’t see this on the pictures provided. The finishing on it reminds me
Of a Squale.

I’m about done buying grey at this point.

A Grey Dealer (which are new), or a used sale? They are not the same.

Looks like a used watch that has been re-brushed up to me.

rolexperfect · 6 November 2021, 07:47 AM

First question would be grey or AD?

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thegrizz · 6 November 2021, 07:52 AM

Sorry to clarify no it was bought used. 2018. Its polished to crap
And the lugs chopped off. The search continues.

If anyone knows of any reputable second hand dealers in NC please PM me. Would like to buy another one in person.

drrd · 6 November 2021, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrizz

Sorry to clarify no it was bought used. 2018. Its polished to crap
And the lugs chopped off. The search continues.

If anyone knows of any reputable second hand dealers in NC please PM me. Would like to buy another one in person.

Huh? You were wondering what had happened to it and why the finish was different but it's used 3 years and refinished?

There's your answer I guess

.

thegrizz · 6 November 2021, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drrd

Huh? You were wondering what had happened to it and why the finish was different but it's used 3 years and refinished?

There's your answer I guess

.

Previously had a 2011 that was refinished and looked 1000x better than this. Just wondering if this was an acceptable finish or if the watch maker was drunk that day.

drrd · 6 November 2021, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrizz

Previously had a 2011 that was refinished and looked 1000x better than this. Just wondering if this was an acceptable finish or if the watch maker was drunk that day.

OK that makes sense :)

Yeah looks like quite heavy-handed refinish.

joli160 · 6 November 2021, 11:18 AM

Almost if not all second hand watches on the market have been touched up.
Understandably so because if it shows normal wear marks nobody would buy it.
Only on TRF some people like scratches, in the real world not.

Perhaps go for an unworn example from a real trusted seller.
Bit more expensive but no worries.

Fwiw it’s easy enough to correct a brushed finish and your example is not polished to crap imho.

JacksonRain · 6 November 2021, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrizz

Not sure I was wondering if it received a bad polish somewhere. I bought it grey but couldn’t see this on the pictures provided. The finishing on it reminds me

Of a Squale.

I’m about done buying grey at this point.

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100000000% sure the second picture shows a watch that has been polished.

There is zero doubt.

And they did a poor job on the south right lug... The polished side went to the brushed.

No more grey? I don't blame you

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JacksonRain · 6 November 2021, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrizz

This is submariner #2 for me and the finish is not like the previous submariner.

This one seems to have much more of a brushed look the the tune that it looks streaky. It reminds of a Pelagos that needs to be wiped.

Not sure what’s going on? Any suggestions?

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The second picture shows that watch had been polished, first picture too

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Andad · 6 November 2021, 03:33 PM

Grizz,

As Larry has said, that is not the original finish.

Your first post did not describe your Submariner status and some may have thought it was like this from an AD?

rambo99 · 6 November 2021, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrizz

This is submariner #2 for me and the finish is not like the previous submariner.

This one seems to have much more of a brushed look the the tune that it looks streaky. It reminds of a Pelagos that needs to be wiped.

Not sure what’s going on? Any suggestions?

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bring an electronic microscope to your grey dealer, let them see it and ask for a refund, lol.

Boaters · 6 November 2021, 04:11 PM

Give Rolliworks a call send them some pics and see what they say. They can probably make it look like it should.

Laszlo · 6 November 2021, 04:20 PM

It does look a bit scotch brite’d to me but in all honesty these days it’s really hard to tell unless it’s fresh from an AD. I’ve noticed quality has diminished quite a bit from the gray channel but if it’s preowned and premium with crazy pricing would you rather have a scratched up to s$&$” bracelet instead? I wouldn’t.

thesharkfactor · 6 November 2021, 06:57 PM

It looks bad. Your sharp defined edges have been softened with polishing.

thegrizz · 6 November 2021, 09:19 PM

Yes I know everyone is laughing at how close the pictures are. I started with them at a normal distance but since I uploaded from my phone the website required me to bring them down to that size.

Thanks for the feedback ya'll. It seems that in this current buying frenzy the grey/second market quality is taking a hit. This is my second submariner I have purchased this way that I have had blatant issues with.

It amazes me how many of these dealers describe them as "mint" or "excellent". Anyway this one is going back as well. After wearing two submariners now it is very hard to go out and buy anything else.

I guess I will be waiting until I can find one local. The unfortunate part is I sold my Pelagos, Marathon GSAR and Seamaster once I bought the sub. Now I'm stuck wearing my beater Seiko SKX.

Live and learn I guess.

joli160 · 6 November 2021, 11:17 PM

There are a lot of decent sellers who will disclose anything and if something slips through they will make it right. Very well known here on the forum.

You can’t get rock bottom prices, but peace of mind is worth the extra.

MRBolton · 7 November 2021, 04:03 PM

Who was the seller who described this with such positive language?

jimcameron · 7 November 2021, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrizz

I bought it grey but couldn’t see this on the pictures provided.

I’m about done buying grey at this point.

I'd try and get a refund.

...or

Send it to one of the trusted and competent repair shops and have them clean it up.

Old Expat Beast · 7 November 2021, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrizz

Now I'm stuck wearing my beater Seiko SKX.

Live and learn I guess.

There are worse places to be. I wear my SKX every day

Boaters · 7 November 2021, 08:31 PM

Rolliworks will work there magic and it will look like new problem solved. Good luck and real sorry you have to even deal with it but shit happens just get through it. Take care.

Jarrah · 7 November 2021, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

Almost if not all second hand watches on the market have been touched up.
Understandably so because if it shows normal wear marks nobody would buy it.
Only on TRF some people like scratches, in the real world not.

I know i'll probably get crucified and likely banned for this, but as soon as I got my new SubC date I polished it with silver call the police.. errr... I mean silver polish.. to make it shiny. Still have the brushed look, but shiny brushed just how I like it.

Did I ruin the resale value? Maybe, but I don't care because I bought the watch for myself and like shiny bands. There I said it!

*hears Rolex police sirens in background*

6 November 2021, 04:57 AM	#1
thegrizz "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: NC Posts: 39	Finish on Submariner This is submariner #2 for me and the finish is not like the previous submariner. This one seems to have much more of a brushed look the the tune that it looks streaky. It reminds of a Pelagos that needs to be wiped. Not sure what’s going on? Any suggestions? 00129F5C-72E0-43FD-B988-5FCFDAA52BE0.jpeg 79921C65-6584-4559-BE56-5775A6A07D9F.jpeg 23EF5BBA-3F01-492F-9B68-FE0BB1D560C6.jpeg

6 November 2021, 05:04 AM	#3
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	Do you have an electron microscope so we can really get a sense of the topography of the brushwork? These pictures aren't zoomed in enough for me to tell :) __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

6 November 2021, 06:26 AM	#8
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	I really think the images need to much closer to really tell. __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

6 November 2021, 07:47 AM	#11
rolexperfect "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: around the world Watch: 116506 Posts: 1,370	First question would be grey or AD? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ “buy what you like, and be done with it“

6 November 2021, 11:18 AM	#16
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,735	Almost if not all second hand watches on the market have been touched up. Understandably so because if it shows normal wear marks nobody would buy it. Only on TRF some people like scratches, in the real world not. Perhaps go for an unworn example from a real trusted seller. Bit more expensive but no worries. Fwiw it’s easy enough to correct a brushed finish and your example is not polished to crap imho. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

6 November 2021, 05:00 AM	#2
Mendota "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: MN Watch: OP36 Blue 3-6-9 Posts: 2,195	Someone else talked about this recently. Have you washed it with soap and water yet? That seemed to be a general consensus with the other thread. Not sure about yours, but in the other thread oils or something else likely got on there and created the streaky appearance.

6 November 2021, 05:10 AM	#4
thegrizz "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: NC Posts: 39	Sorry y’all posted from my phone. It kept telling me the file size was too large so I had to reduce them to this. Yes already tried the dawn and water. It’s like a weird film. It’s not slick when I run my fingers on it. It’s not sticky per se but like it has some friction.

6 November 2021, 05:22 AM	#5
S’portEye "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Shreveport Posts: 1,381	Try to enjoy your watch. Congrats on a great purchase.

6 November 2021, 05:29 AM	#6
Sandpit "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Middle East Posts: 1,808	Had this been polished by somebody? I ask because none of the edges look that sharp. Maybe it’s the magnification though.

6 November 2021, 06:12 AM	#7
thegrizz "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: NC Posts: 39	Not sure I was wondering if it received a bad polish somewhere. I bought it grey but couldn’t see this on the pictures provided. The finishing on it reminds me Of a Squale. I’m about done buying grey at this point. A2C37D79-E6FC-44E7-A12B-C2761A3D476D.jpeg 387B69BB-543C-4831-83B9-4075BF778871.jpeg

6 November 2021, 07:52 AM	#12
thegrizz "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: NC Posts: 39	Sorry to clarify no it was bought used. 2018. Its polished to crap And the lugs chopped off. The search continues. If anyone knows of any reputable second hand dealers in NC please PM me. Would like to buy another one in person.

6 November 2021, 03:33 PM	#19
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,468	Grizz, As Larry has said, that is not the original finish. Your first post did not describe your Submariner status and some may have thought it was like this from an AD? __________________ E

6 November 2021, 04:11 PM	#21
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,652	Give Rolliworks a call send them some pics and see what they say. They can probably make it look like it should.

6 November 2021, 04:20 PM	#22
Laszlo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,868	It does look a bit scotch brite’d to me but in all honesty these days it’s really hard to tell unless it’s fresh from an AD. I’ve noticed quality has diminished quite a bit from the gray channel but if it’s preowned and premium with crazy pricing would you rather have a scratched up to s$&$” bracelet instead? I wouldn’t. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

6 November 2021, 06:57 PM	#23
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,636	It looks bad. Your sharp defined edges have been softened with polishing.

6 November 2021, 09:19 PM	#24
thegrizz "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: NC Posts: 39	Yes I know everyone is laughing at how close the pictures are. I started with them at a normal distance but since I uploaded from my phone the website required me to bring them down to that size. Thanks for the feedback ya'll. It seems that in this current buying frenzy the grey/second market quality is taking a hit. This is my second submariner I have purchased this way that I have had blatant issues with. It amazes me how many of these dealers describe them as "mint" or "excellent". Anyway this one is going back as well. After wearing two submariners now it is very hard to go out and buy anything else. I guess I will be waiting until I can find one local. The unfortunate part is I sold my Pelagos, Marathon GSAR and Seamaster once I bought the sub. Now I'm stuck wearing my beater Seiko SKX. Live and learn I guess.

6 November 2021, 11:17 PM	#25
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,735	There are a lot of decent sellers who will disclose anything and if something slips through they will make it right. Very well known here on the forum. You can’t get rock bottom prices, but peace of mind is worth the extra. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

7 November 2021, 04:03 PM	#26
MRBolton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: USA Watch: ing my wrist Posts: 1,263	Who was the seller who described this with such positive language?

7 November 2021, 08:31 PM	#29
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,652	Rolliworks will work there magic and it will look like new problem solved. Good luck and real sorry you have to even deal with it but shit happens just get through it. Take care.

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