ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX
20 November 2021, 08:16 AM | #1 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: UK
Posts: 2,874
|
So how long do you want to wait for a Daytona?
I was in town today, so I dropped into my AD as it’d been a while. I’m not currently on a list, or waiting for anything, so it was literally just a social visit with the guy I’ve known and been dealing with for around 15 years.
I asked him how the “Rolex situation” is, and he (fairly obviously) said it was absolutely insane. Interestingly though he said they’re actually seeing a few more pieces coming in recently, BUT that’s obviously more than offset by what he said was conservatively a ten-fold increase in people enquiring about Rolex watches over the last couple of years. The thing that made me laugh though was when I asked about current wait list lengths and he said the SS Daytona (again, fairly obviously) was the worst by some margin. He said that with the number of pieces they get per year, and the number of people on the list, he said that people at the bottom of their list would literally have a 20 year wait. So if you’re a walk-in off the street and fancy putting your name down for a Daytona, you may as well do it, and in the meantime there’s plenty you can do to pass the time. Hell you could even have a child, raise them, put them through school, college and get them most of the way through Uni before you need to pay for your Daytona! |
20 November 2021, 08:21 AM | #2 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 9,202
|
I was the first customer at the grand opening of a new Rolex Boutique and so was first on waitlist for SS Daytona. I’ve bought three watches there so far, but still no call for the 116500. It’s been three years.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
20 November 2021, 08:25 AM | #3 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New England
Posts: 3,741
|
I had a very short wait back in 2018 for my black dial from AD. I know them well and still got very lucky. Seems much harder today
I’m currently waiting on a 116519 from the same AD and my wait has already been considerably longer than I waited for the 116500 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Current watches: 116718ln, 116500 black dial, 40mm Breitling Chronomat MOP dial “A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.” |
20 November 2021, 08:25 AM | #4 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: United States
Posts: 394
|
Quote:
I guess you need to spend a little more. (It's all about the "relationship") |
|
20 November 2021, 08:31 AM | #5 |
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2014
Real Name: Matt
Location: UK / EU & Canada
Watch: Sub 114060
Posts: 1,349
|
There really isn't any "first on the list", you may have been the first one to give your name but they won't make the allocation decision based on that. If someone walked in right after you and established a larger purchase history than you they would take priority.
|
20 November 2021, 08:37 AM | #6 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Real Name: The Mystro ;)
Location: Central Pa.
Posts: 15,468
|
The obvious truth is dealers never got many SS Daytonas for the last 25+ years under the best of market circumstances. The SS Daytona was always the tip of the spear of limited produced Rolex models.
So when you could buy any model at a discount sitting in the cases (BLNR, LVC, etc) the SS Daytona was never in the case. That is all any newbie to the watch game needs to know about getting a SS Daytona at msrp at a AD. You can play the lottery but I know more people that has won the lottery than got a SS Daytona (white or black) from a AD. It’s not slowing down and when the the SS Daytona hits $50k+ it will even be harder to get than now.
__________________
|
20 November 2021, 11:28 AM | #7 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Deep South
Watch: Daytona,GMT,Sub,DD
Posts: 717
|
So, what would the wait be like for a TT Daytona?
PDG |
20 November 2021, 11:47 AM | #8 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Canada
Watch: DSSD, CHNR, SUB
Posts: 1,682
|
Not surprised by that at all. Probably the same at my AD as well.
|
20 November 2021, 12:05 PM | #9 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: TX
Posts: 100
|
Yes you was. Was.
|
20 November 2021, 12:05 PM | #10 | |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Real Name: Francisco
Location: San Juan, PR
Watch: Is Ticking !
Posts: 25,161
|
Quote:
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________
Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled |
|
20 November 2021, 01:23 PM | #11 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Japan
Watch: The 1 on my wrist
Posts: 122
|
So how long do I wait?? Never have for a Rolex
In my case, for Rolex watches I go gray. Rolex boutiques where I am have no "waitlists", or that is what they tell me. They say it's just a matter of luck of walking in at just the right time to find a desired watch in the case. It's hard to believe.... But I am gullible, so accept the standard line all the SAs say. Actually, that is how I got my 16610LV so many years ago. I walked in a boutique and found it in the case.
I am not a patient person, and I am getting up in age, so I want to enjoy my watches while I am still living, without constantly going to all of the boutiques to check the cases. So, I find the best deal I can get at a gray. So far with Rolex watches, I have done well buying gray now and enjoying them, while seeing the prices go up. Years ago, it used to be only the SS Daytona that was impossible to get at an AD. Now it seems to be every Rolex watch and its really crazy. I am on a waitlist at another watch brand that does accept waitlists. But I probably won't get the watch until 2023. I can wait for that one. |
20 November 2021, 01:26 PM | #12 |
2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Miami
Watch: me lose count.
Posts: 5,892
|
AD - 2.5 years white dial
Grey - immediately black dial
__________________
♛ 218206 Roman ♛ 116689 ♛ 126710BLRO ♛ 16520 white ♛ 16523 white ♛ 16610 ♛ 5513 Birth Year - ✠ Patek Philippe 5980/1R-001 - AP 26331ST Panda - Panerai Bronzo 671 & 111, Ω Speedmaster 1957 Broad Arrow, Cartier Santos XL - Montblanc TimeWalker Chrono 41 |
20 November 2021, 01:29 PM | #13 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Merica
Posts: 1,330
|
I waited about three days with Crown & Caliber last July
|
20 November 2021, 01:38 PM | #14 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Bay Area, CA
Watch: this
Posts: 1,283
|
Had it in my hand within 24 hrs. Life was too short to wait decade so i jump the wagon during 2020. Glad I did. No regrets.
|
20 November 2021, 03:27 PM | #15 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: 1 of 13 Colonies
Posts: 8,572
|
8 months white
4 months black |
20 November 2021, 05:35 PM | #16 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: UK
Watch: GMT
Posts: 8,385
|
Quote:
Most ADs won’t let a random join their Daytona lists anymore. |
|
20 November 2021, 07:44 PM | #17 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2019
Real Name: Jay
Location: England
Watch: SkyD
Posts: 6,398
|
I wouldn’t personally - I would just buy it on the secondary market if I wanted it.
|
21 November 2021, 03:05 AM | #18 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Miami Beach FL US
Posts: 1,425
|
Quote:
|
|
21 November 2021, 03:21 AM | #19 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Real Name: Chris
Location: .
Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs
Posts: 12,609
|
Quote:
Go grey and be done . 10 years from now the premium will be very much in YOUR favour . |
|
21 November 2021, 03:22 AM | #20 | |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: NWA, USA
Watch: BLRO/Daytona/OP41s
Posts: 5,350
|
Quote:
I believe my Boutique does not share inventory with the five other stores in their family owned group, maybe your’s does or at least has to pass scrutiny from corporate. |
|
21 November 2021, 04:46 AM | #21 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: FL
Watch: BLNR, Daytona
Posts: 55
|
My best friend was waiting in Miami 3 years buying periodically from the store and went to Spain, bought a diamond ring and got the Daytona on the same transaction.... I personally believe that there is not waiting list as such for the Daytona and most of the dealers use those Daytona;s to award some exceptional customer, someone with large purchase potential or a friend... so the waiting list on that specific model means nothing
|
21 November 2021, 05:03 AM | #22 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2020
Real Name: Bill
Location: 🇺🇸
Watch: BLRO, LV
Posts: 444
|
Saw one today… brand new selling for $39k!!! Ss white. What a bargain!!!
|
21 November 2021, 05:21 AM | #23 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: SSF
Watch: 116500LN W+B DIAL
Posts: 294
|
When I finally decided to go via a trusted reseller for the white dial, 3 days because my wire was delayed.
Black dial via AD, next day. |
21 November 2021, 05:34 AM | #24 |
"TRF" Life Patron
Join Date: Jun 2005
Real Name: Peter
Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng
Watch: ing you.
Posts: 53,039
|
Personally would not wait anytime for one ,great movement but got to be the most over hyped Rolex watch ever ,but today many buy the hype to wear it.
__________________
ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder |
21 November 2021, 05:38 AM | #25 |
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: United States
Posts: 1,533
|
There isn’t a traditional wait list so those at the bottom of the list without any relationship or history will never get it. A referral by a really good client would immediately jump them. My son and kids will have an easier time since relationships have already been established.
|
21 November 2021, 05:41 AM | #26 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Mexico
Watch: DateJust 41
Posts: 468
|
The “wait list” doesn’t exist. It’s all about how much you spend, the relationship you have with your AD.
__________________
Enjoying: ♛126622 Rhodium///♛116500LN White///♛126610 LV///♛126710BLRO///Drive de Cartier Moonphase///Santos de Cartier ADLC///Speedmaster Sapphire 3861///Tudor Black Bay 58 |
21 November 2021, 06:14 AM | #27 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 2,354
|
I waited 30 yrs for mine….still not sure it was worth the wait
__________________
Exp2 | Exp1 | BLNR | SD43 | DSSD | 16710 | Ak | 116505 | 116610 | 16610 | 16700 | Yacht-Master | 116710 LN | 126710 BLRO mk1 & mk2 | 116500LN | 126610LN | 126710 GRNR |
21 November 2021, 06:31 AM | #28 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Charlotte, NC
Watch: The HYPED ones
Posts: 682
|
Longer now…. I waited two weeks I believe, but that was a few months ago. Check the grey pricing, there is a relationship between grey pricing and ease of attainment from an AD. TT black face trades at $26k now, on a retail of $17k. So it is getting more and more hard to acquire. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Subs = *11610*116610LN Daytonas = *116500LN*116518LN*116503*116515LN Day Dates = *228235 DD/RG Olive Dial Panerai 1033 GMT - God is Good |
21 November 2021, 06:34 AM | #29 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Charlotte, NC
Watch: The HYPED ones
Posts: 682
|
Guys…. There are no lists. Sure, sales associates keep files of what we want, and when it comes in they make a case to the Manager, Owner etc for allocation. These decisions are based off spend history.. not who put their name down. Of course people get lucky and the guy before you rejected it and you came up next in line with minimal/no spend history, but there are no lists.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Subs = *11610*116610LN Daytonas = *116500LN*116518LN*116503*116515LN Day Dates = *228235 DD/RG Olive Dial Panerai 1033 GMT - God is Good |
21 November 2021, 06:38 AM | #30 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Charlotte, NC
Watch: The HYPED ones
Posts: 682
|
Once I broke a certain number in spend, I got offered every Daytona I have asked for and some I didn’t. That’s the reality. Before I crossed that threshold/number, I was not offered anything. It’s like you break into a different level of spend and then the flood gates open for watches. I chronicled my Daytona journey in a separate thread so I won’t pontificate here. Keep in mind the guys who really get all the watches, don’t post in this forum. I saw a guy drop $400k on a Diamond in Charlotte at lunch time. That guy gets watches.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Subs = *11610*116610LN Daytonas = *116500LN*116518LN*116503*116515LN Day Dates = *228235 DD/RG Olive Dial Panerai 1033 GMT - God is Good |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|
*Banners
Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.