dings/nicks vs value - SS Subs

[Pure_class]

Hey all is it a bad idea to get into a watch that has nicks/dings on the lugs or case? Can this be fixed during a regular service with rolex or is this something that warrants a headache of laser welding techniques etc. I plan to wear my watches doing most activities, but typically do take it off if there is a scenario where the case could easily become nicked or dented.

[Pure_class]

and also to be clear, just a nick or two, not a complete mess of marks etc.

[Xtreme123]

Wear and don’t worry about it. It’s meant to be worn, not kept spotless!

[Hkspwrsche]

Originally Posted by Pure_class

Hey all do nicks/dings on the lugs or case of a 5 digit SS sub effect value at all? I love to wear my watches and do, but wonder if these types of wear and tear can or will affect the value of a SS Sub. And not to be confused with scratches.

Yes. Only if you sell it. So wear and enjoy!

[Hkspwrsche]

Just how are you dinging it anyway? Mine is ding free! :)

[mfserge]

If the consensus is ‘YES’ then what would you do?

[csaltphoto]

Not like a car or something unless there is a lot of actual metal removed. There seems to be a "floor" on most Rolexes regarding price. It's maybe 20% or so below VGC because you are never more than a thousand dollars away from spa service at Rolex and getting back an almost new watch. Once the stickers come off the there is steep price drop. After that not so much. If there is laser welding involved maybe another $500-1000. So like a 12-13K sub will never go much below 10K unless it is completely thrashed and I don't have a lot of points of comparison there since I rarely see something like that for sale.

[Pure_class]

It isn't mine, it would be a potential one I would be picking up. small nick on lug. Not really a big deal, just wondering if something like that is worth paying market for or if it should be a pass.

[mfserge]

Ah so this is a discussion about value, which is a direct violation of TRF rules section 4 article
(iv) THIS IS A ROLEX WATCH DISCUSSION FORUM AND NOT A PRICE OR INVESTMENT OR DISCOUNT DISCUSSION FORUM SO IF YOU HAVE A QUERY REGARDING PRICES, INVESTMENTS OR DISCOUNTS THEN MAKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL ENQUIRIES AND INVESTIGATIONS AND DO NOT POST THOSE ISSUES HERE.“

[Pure_class]

[Pure_class]

Originally Posted by mfserge

Ah so this is a discussion about value, which is a direct violation of TRF rules section 4 article
(iv) THIS IS A ROLEX WATCH DISCUSSION FORUM AND NOT A PRICE OR INVESTMENT OR DISCOUNT DISCUSSION FORUM SO IF YOU HAVE A QUERY REGARDING PRICES, INVESTMENTS OR DISCOUNTS THEN MAKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL ENQUIRIES AND INVESTIGATIONS AND DO NOT POST THOSE ISSUES HERE.“

Not really trying to make it about value. But more is it something one should buy knowing a damage exists other than a typical scratch etc. Like is it a bad move to get involved with a watch that has existing wear as in the pictures.

[Pure_class]

I see things in my research about laser welding etc, I personally don't know if this mark would become bothersome to me visually or if it would eventually dissappear with normal wear. Just seeing what others think about it in general as it is a SS sub with lug holes and I intend to wear these watches to do most day to day things in as a tool. Not to be kept in a box in a safe etc.

[huncho]

i personally would not buy a watch with dings. not worth the minimal amount you'd save because if you decide it annoys you and you want to fix it it becomes a headache

[joli160]

yes, would you buy a watch with nicks and dings ?

Most people don’t and that’s why almost all second hand watches for sale look spotless

[2nastie]

Can already see the incoming comments on the purpose of this forum...


But straight to the point, every single mark on a watch (like most things in the world) contributes to a lesser value than to say something perfect. So of course... the obvious answer is it does.

However, this isn't the point of owning a watch is it? Might as well buy it and never wear it type of thing then if "value retention" is what you are after.

[Pure_class]

Originally Posted by 2nastie

Can already see the incoming comments on the purpose of this forum...


But straight to the point, every single mark on a watch (like most things in the world) contributes to a lesser value than to say something perfect. So of course... the obvious answer is it does.

However, this isn't the point of owning a watch is it? Might as well buy it and never wear it type of thing then if "value retention" is what you are after.

Yeah agree. I am not really concerned with overall value retention. These pieces will keep a certain value no matter how dinged they are etc. I plan to wear the piece and continue to put solid mileage on it. I am more just thinking about if its a "can of worms" to pick something up with a nick already on it that I did not do. And if it begins to bother me, how much of a pain is it to repair.

[epicurus]

Sigh

[Tools]

For value, condition is paramount, however, there is a no-value-added point.

Market value is based on "good" condition. Good condition would be expected to have dings and dents and likely appear as a used product, even if it has had a proper service and refinish.

You can almost never recover the cost of filling and properly taking out these expected marks.

[Farsh14]

Btw they’re just joking with you for the most part.

If you bought it and it’s yours though I wouldn’t worry about the value just enjoy it and be careful when you can.

I consciously move my arm carefully in tight spots and don’t do any intensive labor without taking warch off first. Also if I am working at my desk take it off to avoid scratches
.

Otherwise adter your first Nick or two you’ll not even care anymore

[messikens]

Honestly I don't get this topic...?

1. Will something used be of lesser value than the same object new? - yes (unless worn by a celebrity at some point)

2. Will wear be positively correlated to the depreciation of the object? - yes

3. Will the market determine by how much said correlation of wear and tear and depreciation of value is the market price? - yes, see price of object

4. Will OP be able to then determine if that value is then worth buying or selling object at said price (or wearing to extent of the depreciation will result in whatever value it is showcased for said state of object) - yes


See also : Adam Smith - b.1723


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[jets]

Originally Posted by Pure_class

Hey all do nicks/dings on the lugs or case of a 5 digit SS sub effect value at all? I love to wear my watches and do, but wonder if these types of wear and tear can or will affect the value of a SS Sub. And not to be confused with scratches.

Very stupid question. Everyone knows that after a nick your Rolex is worth nothing except it’s weight in scrap steel. That’s why everyone is giving them away for free unless they’re perfect. True story.


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[mfserge]

Originally Posted by Pure_class

Not really trying to make it about value.

Your very first sentence in this thread asks about value. Exactly how is that not making it about value??

The number of threads about values and investments in Rolex are mind blowing.

[Pure_class]

Originally Posted by mfserge

Your very first sentence in this thread asks about value. Exactly how is that not making it about value??

The number of threads about values and investments in Rolex are mind blowing.

I fixed my initial post. Poor choice of words. I am not really trying to worry about dollar value overall. It is more of is a ding/nick of what I have shown in the photos something that should deter one from buying the particular watch with a condition like that? Other than that it is a full complete set with papers etc. The rest of the watch is in seemingly unpolished condition and pretty good overall. I also am asking because I am mildly OCD with certain things, and not sure if that mark would disappear once I wear it and forget its there or if it was to grow on me and become something that bothered me how hard or what would be done to repair.

[Pure_class]

Originally Posted by Hkspwrsche

Just how are you dinging it anyway? Mine is ding free! :)

I'm not dinging it. That is the thing haha. It would be coming with a couple dings already on it as per the picture. I typically wear my sub while working around the house with gloves on etc so reasonable protection. But still wearing while doing some hard work at times. Haven't ever had a good gash/nick in anything yet though.

[Alo(ha)waii]

Originally Posted by Pure_class

I fixed my initial post. Poor choice of words. I am not really trying to worry about dollar value overall. It is more of is a ding/nick of what I have shown in the photos something that should deter one from buying the particular watch with a condition like that? Other than that it is a full complete set with papers etc. The rest of the watch is in seemingly unpolished condition and pretty good overall. I also am asking because I am mildly OCD with certain things, and not sure if that mark would disappear once I wear it and forget its there or if it was to grow on me and become something that bothered me how hard or what would be done to repair.

Buy what you want. Buy what makes you happy. If you’re already concerned about the dings/nicks/marks, then that watch is not for you.

[Pure_class]

Originally Posted by messikens

Honestly I don't get this topic...?

1. Will something used be of lesser value than the same object new? - yes (unless worn by a celebrity at some point)

2. Will wear be positively correlated to the depreciation of the object? - yes

3. Will the market determine by how much said correlation of wear and tear and depreciation of value is the market price? - yes, see price of object

4. Will OP be able to then determine if that value is then worth buying or selling object at said price (or wearing to extent of the depreciation will result in whatever value it is showcased for said state of object) - yes


See also : Adam Smith - b.1723


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I changed my initial post. I wasn't really trying to get into dollar value. It was more of is it a bad idea to get something that has certain marks/dings/dents that may take more than a polishing to repair if I was to decide it bothered me. Wasn't sure if its something to stay away from or if it can be reasonably repaired during a typical Rolex service.

[Pure_class]

Originally Posted by Alo(ha)waii

Buy what you want. Buy what makes you happy. If you’re already concerned about the dings/nicks/marks, then that watch is not for you.

Yeah. I am on the fence. Just looking to get feedback from others here. Essentially looking to see if this is not a big deal to pickup and use or if it was a landslide from members saying not worth it or not to get involved with something that has a gash/nick in the case vs scratches.

[JSol1]

If you think the dings will bother you and you want to be the one doing the dinging, I would move on. There are hundreds of examples of this piece for sale at any given time.
If the price reflects the condition, go for it…

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Pure_class

I changed my initial post. I wasn't really trying to get into dollar value. It was more of is it a bad idea to get something that has certain marks/dings/dents that may take more than a polishing to repair if I was to decide it bothered me. Wasn't sure if its something to stay away from or if it can be reasonably repaired during a typical Rolex service.

This ding would bother me enough not to buy it.

If you do and regret it down the road try getting it fixed by LAWW. They can make a Rolex look better than Rolex themselves

[Car32]

Originally Posted by mfserge

Ah so this is a discussion about value, which is a direct violation of TRF rules section 4 article
(iv) THIS IS A ROLEX WATCH DISCUSSION FORUM AND NOT A PRICE OR INVESTMENT OR DISCOUNT DISCUSSION FORUM SO IF YOU HAVE A QUERY REGARDING PRICES, INVESTMENTS OR DISCOUNTS THEN MAKE YOUR OWN PERSONAL ENQUIRIES AND INVESTIGATIONS AND DO NOT POST THOSE ISSUES HERE.“

Wow, didnt know this is a rule, but its clearly not being enforced as virtually everything thread in the last 3 years has been about this.

right now there is a thread titled "Starting to trade, buy and sell.. advice welcomd" that is THREE pages long!!!