Trading my Air-King?

[gery82]

I have a 116900 from 2016, full set. Recently been offered a 16570T from 2011, also full set in a 1:1 trade. In terms of money spent I might lose around 100-120 bucks.

Should I do it? A 3186 cal. Explorer II with black dial I’d assume is trading up. Now that the 116900 is discontinued, maybe I should wait, maybe I’m letting go of my Air-King too soon?


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[AF_Rob]

Doing a quick look at the market, you're leaving a couple grand on the table. Do you like the ExII better? That's the real question.

If I liked it better (which I do), I'd make the trade.

[gery82]

Thanks Rob. I do like it better, but I thought the Exp II with the newer caliber would be in the same ballpark with the Air-King


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[gery82]

Kept it after all, thanks!


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[hutch300]

Follow your heart and less of the investment. Does it spark joy? I'd rather have the explorer but that is because I think the modern AK's are ugly.

[lokbo]

Do you think the price for 116900 still have room to go higher?

[28mm]

Investment at this level is a bit ridiculous.

I have both and wear them equally.

Get or keep the one you like better and there's your decision!

[tarmatimes]

Glad you kept it

[askdanny]

Originally Posted by gery82

Should I do it? A 3186 cal. Explorer II with black dial I’d assume is trading up. Now that the 116900 is discontinued, maybe I should wait, maybe I’m letting go of my Air-King too soon?

To say the 116900 is discontinued sounds better than it is. Not all discontinuations are created equal. It is discontinued just like the Explorer 1 with short "T-Rex" hands and partial lume was discontinued: It was replaced by a better version that is close in appearance and still preferred today over the discontinued version.

The 116900 were made for five-plus years and it's not considered a short production. Hey, I love the watch (see my avatar). But to give you another example, the 116610LN (square-lug Sub) and the Explorer II 216570 have been discontinued and replaced by improved versions -- but close enough in design that still today, no one is preferring the discontinued model over the current production.

You may have to wait a long time until the 116900 carries that "it's-discontinued!" premium.

[gery82]

Yea I’m expecting a premium at all. Indeed with such a “partial” discontinuation that was essentially no more than an update, I don’t see the demand going up for this model. If anything the new version is more desired.

Still I kept it because I don’t think the value trade would worth it.


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[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by askdanny

To say the 116900 is discontinued sounds better than it is. Not all discontinuations are created equal. It is discontinued just like the Explorer 1 with short "T-Rex" hands and partial lume was discontinued: It was replaced by a better version that is close in appearance and still preferred today over the discontinued version.

The 116900 were made for five-plus years and it's not considered a short production. Hey, I love the watch (see my avatar). But to give you another example, the 116610LN (square-lug Sub) and the Explorer II 216570 have been discontinued and replaced by improved versions -- but close enough in design that still today, no one is preferring the discontinued model over the current production.

You may have to wait a long time until the 116900 carries that "it's-discontinued!" premium.

This.

[gery82]

Originally Posted by gery82

Yea I’m expecting a premium at all. Indeed with such a “partial” discontinuation that was essentially no more than an update, I don’t see the demand going up for this model. If anything the new version is more desired.

Still I kept it because I don’t think the value trade would worth it.


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Just realized a typo, correction: I’m NOT expecting a premium


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[Vesper Lynd]

I like the 16570 better, I don't have an opinion on the money.

[AJMarcus]

I’d do that trade in a heartbeat. With the updated AK, I see the previous version declining in value in comparison over time. The 16570 has been steadily increasing in value. Besides it’s a way better piece IMO. .

[observingwatches]

Originally Posted by gery82

Thanks Rob. I do like it better, but I thought the Exp II with the newer caliber would be in the same ballpark with the Air-King


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I think the white dial one with the 3186 would be closer in price since they are quite a bit more expensive with that configuration!