Offering the AD more than MSRP

[RonP]

Has anyone here ever offered an AD more than the MSRP and had any success?

Here in the UK a no date submariner is £7150, how do you think they would react if you offered them £10,000? Would that tempt them financially or would they still think that they are not making enough on that sale.

I'd rather do this than buy stuff that I don't need.

[jimcameron]

I sure that Rolex would frown upon this, but some AD's have figured out how to bundle purchases.

[RonP]

Originally Posted by jimcameron

I sure that Rolex would frown upon this, but some AD's have figured out how to bundle purchases.

Yes they would frown upon that but we all know that ADs are hardly ones to have scruples and can mask that extra money somehow.

[Harry-57]

Try asking a few. I expect they will all refuse but I don't know that.

Why not try and let us know? I'm sure we'd all like to hear how you get on. You will need to do it face to face because Rolex (and other companies whose products they sell) phone anonymously from time to time to test their UK ADs.

[RonP]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

Try asking a few. I expect they will all refuse but I don't know that.

Why not try and let us know? I'm sure we'd all like to hear how you get on. You will need to do it face to face because Rolex (and other companies whose products they sell) phone anomalously from time to time to test their UK ADs.

I'm in central London tomorrow so will give it a shot in a few places!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by RonP

Has anyone here ever offered an AD more than the MSRP and had any success?

Here in the UK a no date submariner is £7150, how do you think they would react if you offered them £10,000? Would that tempt them financially or would they still think that they are not making enough on that sale.

I'd rather do this than buy stuff that I don't need.

Why anyone would even think of offering any more than MRSP from a official Rolex AD defeats me.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by RonP

I'm in central London tomorrow so will give it a shot in a few places!

Please let us know what happens.

[RonP]

Originally Posted by padi56

Why anyone would even think of offering any more than MRSP from a official Rolex AD defeats me.

Because the popular stainless steel models are almost impossible to get without prior purchase history and I don't see that changing any time soon.

[RonP]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

Please let us know what happens.

Will do, although if I somehow get lucky (which I don't expect to) I can't name the AD.

[GB-man]

You’re better off offering to buy the salesperson lunch and offering them the delta personally if they deliver one lol

I had an AD request 2k over msrp for 116500 back in 2017. When I agreed they quickly delivered me one each white and black.

[minute_man]

Originally Posted by RonP

Has anyone here ever offered an AD more than the MSRP and had any success?

Here in the UK a no date submariner is £7150, how do you think they would react if you offered them £10,000? Would that tempt them financially or would they still think that they are not making enough on that sale.

I'd rather do this than buy stuff that I don't need.

You're most likely to be politely shown the door...

[Chris]

Originally Posted by padi56

Why anyone would even think of offering any more than MRSP from a official Rolex AD defeats me.

[koronet-kid]

They would consider it bribery, and very likely never sell you anything

[RonP]

Originally Posted by GB-man

You’re better off offering to buy the salesperson lunch and offering them the delta personally if they deliver one lol

I had an AD request 2k over msrp for 116500 back in 2017. When I agreed they quickly delivered me one each white and black.

That gives me hope. A sub in 2022 is not far off a 2017 Daytona in terms of availability.

[RonP]

Originally Posted by koronet-kid

They would consider it bribery, and very likely never sell you anything

I don't think offering more money for a luxury material item can be seen as bribery anywhere.

[HHIslander]

They risk losing their AD status if they get caught. I play golf with the owner of an AD and he says Rolex has a zero tolerance policy about this. He’s pretty tight lipped about most things too.

[gerry100]

Cash bribes probably the only way to get away with it.

Doubt many ADs would go for it

[Oxfordian]

AD's hold all the cards at this moment in time, more wannabe Rolex owners than watches so AD's will get everything they possibly can out of this situation.

My gut feeling is that you would be better off doing the what if I pay you X£'s over the top of MSRP at a smaller independent rather than a WOS store.

Interested to see how you get on but my thoughts are that you will be shown the door and politely told to go away and don't come back

[RonP]

Originally Posted by Oxfordian

AD's hold all the cards at this moment in time, more wannabe Rolex owners than watches so AD's will get everything they possibly can out of this situation.

My gut feeling is that you would be better off doing the what if I pay you X£'s over the top of MSRP at a smaller independent rather than a WOS store.

Interested to see how you get on but my thoughts are that you will be shown the door and politely told to go away and don't come back

When I ask about the watch then are all going to give me the 'establish a relationship' line, I can just say - can I not give you extra money?

I agree, this would work better at a smaller store.

[Tim Plains]

Maybe find a £3,000 item you want and tell them you'll buy it and the Sub at the same time instead of trying to bribe them, which could see you blacklisted. Also, why wouldn't you just go grey if you're paying roughly market value?

[Shaitan]

Originally Posted by RonP

Has anyone here ever offered an AD more than the MSRP and had any success?

Here in the UK a no date submariner is £7150, how do you think they would react if you offered them £10,000? Would that tempt them financially or would they still think that they are not making enough on that sale.

I'd rather do this than buy stuff that I don't need.

Straight up it probably won’t work - you could try to get to know an SA and talk to him about your predicament. You can drop a hint that there would be an envelope with cash coming his way if he could help you out.


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[dannyp]

Yes, there is a very legitimate way to do this: Offer to trade a watch with a market price of 10k for a new Sub with a market price of 7k straight up.

[RonP]

Originally Posted by Tim Plains

Maybe find a £3,000 item you want and tell them you'll buy it and the Sub at the same time instead of trying to bribe them, which could see you blacklisted. Also, why wouldn't you just go grey if you're paying roughly market value?

Grey is another £3500 on top of that! I couldn't stomach paying an extra £6500 over retail.

I'm not worried about being blacklisted. These are central London ADS that get hundreds of visitors a day, they won't remember me in a year's time.

Yes the suggestion of of buying a £3000 item is viable and if that works I'm all for it but I would have thought the £3000 in cash would be more attractive as there is the cost of the £3000 other item to take into account.

[Shaitan]

Originally Posted by RonP

Grey is another £3500 on top of that! I couldn't stomach paying an extra £6500 over retail.

I'm not worried about being blacklisted. These are central London ADS that get hundreds of visitors a day, they won't remember me in a year's time.

Yes the suggestion of of buying a £3000 item is viable and if that works I'm all for it but I would have thought the £3000 in cash would be more attractive as there is the cost of the £3000 other item to take into account.

Buying something for 3k at a big London AD gets you nowhere nearer to a Sub. Try 20-30

Plus if they do this for you then they would have to do it for everyone else and that’s basically saying f you to the grey market and Rolex policy. No one will take your cash if you openly ask when walking into the store, fact.
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[Gaijin]

God I hate what buying a Rolex from an AD has become or come down to.

[RonP]

Originally Posted by Shaitan

Buying something for 3k at a big London AD gets you nowhere nearer to a Sub. Try 20-30

Plus if they do this for you then they would have to do it for everyone else and that’s basically saying f you to the grey market and Rolex policy. No one will take your cash if you openly ask when walking into the store, fact.
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Makes sense. Do you think there is any chance of getting a sub with a 3k spend just outside London or will they all want me to spend at least the £6.5k that the grey market is priced higher at.

[Manu74]

Never did and never will.

[RonP]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

God I hate what buying a Rolex from an AD has become or come down to.

You and me both. I just really like the look of the Submariner (and Yacht Master), the equivalents from other brands don't interest me. The sub is an icon and I would love to one day give it to my son who is 1 at the moment.

[watchmaker]

Originally Posted by RonP

Yes they would frown upon that but we all know that ADs are hardly ones to have scruples and can mask that extra money somehow.

Care to offer a shred of evidence to support this libellous generalisation.

Not forum gossip that somehow has become canon. Actual evidence pertaining to a specific business.

You are the one suggesting offering a bribe, which is a criminal act in England. Hardly leaves one in a position to cast aspersions.

[SS Oyster]

Not a good idea. That’s bribery, which no AD would put up with IMO.


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