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Tommysol · 22 July 2009, 07:32 AM

5onic · 22 July 2009, 07:46 AM

Only one face picture of the 233 ? Then again that's all thats needed :-)

emagni · 22 July 2009, 08:31 AM

IMHO, 312 has the cleaner dial and is a little bit more attractive in that sense.

JF23 · 22 July 2009, 08:37 AM

I'm sure I will be in the minority here, but the clean dial of the 312 does it for me.

Great pics Tom.

c2tcardin · 22 July 2009, 09:32 AM

I held them both in my hands at the AD's back in late May when I bought the 312 and they are both amazing watches. For me the 312 was the winner and at almost half the price of the 233 the price cinched it! If the 233 were a bit more reasonable in price then it would have been a much tougher decision.

B. Doggy · 22 July 2009, 10:30 AM

I have a soft spot for the 233.

tuisquash · 22 July 2009, 11:12 AM

gret watches and great pics, the 233 moviment is awesome.

brainbizz · 22 July 2009, 12:22 PM

Not a tough decision at all. If you have the cash 233.

rotan · 22 July 2009, 12:40 PM

233! But then 312 looks great too

hflee55 · 22 July 2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rotan

233! But then 312 looks great too

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Trurolexer · 22 July 2009, 03:54 PM

I like the clean & simplicity dial, so I choose for 312.

sniper007 · 23 July 2009, 12:20 AM

312 looks much better..

rotan · 23 July 2009, 12:47 AM

My watch with the simple dial is the 232.... Perfect simple Panerai Radiomir...

Nica64 · 23 July 2009, 10:40 AM

I don't know guys! very tough decision......

I like the 312 a lot, I'm still waiting for my AD to call

..... but the 233 is a beautiful watch.

mbording · 23 July 2009, 07:26 PM

233 hands down. Domed glass and dial layout is much more attractive and true to the Fiddy IMHO.

TswaneNguni · 23 July 2009, 07:51 PM

I have a 289,so would be inclined to go 312>233,as a personal choice.

As for 1950s casing the best are the 47mm 1950s in ss eg. 127 and the new 319 in rosegold.The 47mm 1950s are the nicest casings from Panerai.In 44mm I would vote the "normal" casing eg 111.Radiomirs in 47/48mm are also pretty nice !!

Overall,nothing beats the rosegold PAMs !!

spogehead · 24 July 2009, 05:51 AM

312, can't get my head around the 233 and the ''dome''

eddiethefish · 24 July 2009, 06:44 AM

They both look very nice. I wouldn't mind to get any of these.

danberger · 24 July 2009, 09:59 PM

both on my list of must have's ..... can't afford the 233 right now but on my AD's list for the 312

snapster · 27 July 2009, 05:50 AM

i vote for the 312.

Zed · 27 July 2009, 04:07 PM

they are both special...but i pefer my baby......

jagwap · 7 August 2009, 12:15 PM

I had the same dilemma...

I decided it had to be the new 1950 style case. I didn't think I would like the dome on the 233/270, and liked the simplicity of the 312 dial. I also wanted an automatic, not a manual wind. The possibility of GMT and a bracelet option had me heading to the 320/329.

However, once seen in person, it all changed. The dome looks very special in the flesh. The in photographs the distortion is sometime perceived to be unattractive, but when you move it around in front of you, it is like looking through an antique glass window while walking past: you can perceive the dial detail fine, and it somehow animates it.

Also something that isn't easy to see in photos, the 312/320 are thicker in the metal part of the body, much thicker. Also the case back is very prominent. This makes them look very tall on the wrist. Even the 270 is a little bigger, leaving the 233 the best balanced look for me.

Finally, I didn't think I would like the "fang", but now I enjoy the manual wind and the way it lets you crank it back to 8 days (really more like 10+)

So you have to see them in the flesh. Then maybe you will end up stretching your original budget like I did.

ocwatching · 7 August 2009, 12:30 PM

sigh...both are my favorites right now..
can probably only afford the 312...

karmatp · 7 August 2009, 12:42 PM

Both are stunning but the 312 is my favorite.

dennlow · 9 August 2009, 01:25 PM

For me.. It has got to be the 312.. maybe I am biased cos i just bgt the 312 couple of weeks ago and is loving it

Watchdog · 9 August 2009, 02:45 PM

Interesting debate. I am not a Panerai aficionado; however, the ONLY PAM I have ever desperately wanted is the 312.

To me, there is no comparison.

alphamale2012 · 9 August 2009, 10:15 PM

Has to be the 312.

Tommysol · 10 August 2009, 07:22 AM

PAM 312 13 votes

PAM 233 10 Votes

My vote..all things considered...the PAM 312 by a mile!

Tom

Dom · 10 August 2009, 03:26 PM

233 for the movement and the domed glas. But the price on the 312 can't be beaten.

GBJIV · 10 August 2009, 04:02 PM

Just got the call for the 312... I have the 233 - I have to say - the 233 for me is just an absolutely awesome watch. for me 233 (no need for 312)

The economic question is valid.... Certainly can't go wrong with 312. Panerai fans are very fortunate!

22 July 2009, 07:32 AM	#1
Tommysol "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California Posts: 591	PAM 312 vs PAM 233 pics...which do you like more?

22 July 2009, 09:32 AM	#5
c2tcardin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: NH Watch: Pam 312 & DJ II Posts: 312	I held them both in my hands at the AD's back in late May when I bought the 312 and they are both amazing watches. For me the 312 was the winner and at almost half the price of the 233 the price cinched it! If the 233 were a bit more reasonable in price then it would have been a much tougher decision. __________________ Cheers, Jeff ------------------------------------------------------ PAM 312, DJ II

22 July 2009, 10:30 AM	#6
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	I have a soft spot for the 233. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

22 July 2009, 11:12 AM	#7
tuisquash "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: tui Location: são paulo-brasil Watch: panerai rolex Posts: 772	gret watches and great pics, the 233 moviment is awesome. __________________ panerai and rolex

22 July 2009, 12:40 PM	#9
rotan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Leong Location: Singapore Watch: AP 15202ST Posts: 210	233! But then 312 looks great too __________________ Rolex Batman 116710BLNR Audemars Piguet 15202ST H series

22 July 2009, 07:46 AM	#2
5onic Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Steve Location: Little Ann, UK Watch: Panerai 233K Posts: 96	Only one face picture of the 233 ? Then again that's all thats needed :-)

22 July 2009, 08:31 AM	#3
emagni "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: on Earth Watch: ing TRF Posts: 1,284	IMHO, 312 has the cleaner dial and is a little bit more attractive in that sense.

22 July 2009, 08:37 AM	#4
JF23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: S Florida Posts: 1,898	I'm sure I will be in the minority here, but the clean dial of the 312 does it for me. Great pics Tom.

22 July 2009, 12:22 PM	#8
brainbizz Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 608	Not a tough decision at all. If you have the cash 233.

22 July 2009, 03:54 PM	#11
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	I like the clean & simplicity dial, so I choose for 312.

23 July 2009, 12:20 AM	#12
sniper007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: in the world Posts: 4	312 looks much better..

23 July 2009, 12:47 AM	#13
rotan "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Leong Location: Singapore Watch: AP 15202ST Posts: 210	My watch with the simple dial is the 232.... Perfect simple Panerai Radiomir... __________________ Rolex Batman 116710BLNR Audemars Piguet 15202ST H series

23 July 2009, 10:40 AM	#14
Nica64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,596	I don't know guys! very tough decision...... I like the 312 a lot, I'm still waiting for my AD to call ..... but the 233 is a beautiful watch. __________________ ______________________________ You can't turn back the clock. But you can wind it up again.

23 July 2009, 07:26 PM	#15
mbording "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denmark Posts: 40	233 hands down. Domed glass and dial layout is much more attractive and true to the Fiddy IMHO.

23 July 2009, 07:51 PM	#16
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,609	I have a 289,so would be inclined to go 312>233,as a personal choice. As for 1950s casing the best are the 47mm 1950s in ss eg. 127 and the new 319 in rosegold.The 47mm 1950s are the nicest casings from Panerai.In 44mm I would vote the "normal" casing eg 111.Radiomirs in 47/48mm are also pretty nice !! Overall,nothing beats the rosegold PAMs !!

24 July 2009, 05:51 AM	#17
spogehead "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 339	312, can't get my head around the 233 and the ''dome'' __________________ Cheers Ryan

24 July 2009, 06:44 AM	#18
eddiethefish "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: eddie Location: Montebello Posts: 102	They both look very nice. I wouldn't mind to get any of these. __________________

24 July 2009, 09:59 PM	#19
danberger Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: England Posts: 500	both on my list of must have's ..... can't afford the 233 right now but on my AD's list for the 312

27 July 2009, 05:50 AM	#20
snapster "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: hong kong Posts: 62	i vote for the 312.

27 July 2009, 04:07 PM	#21
Zed Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Watch: Panerai 186 & 233 Posts: 489	they are both special...but i pefer my baby...... Attached Images

7 August 2009, 12:15 PM	#22
jagwap "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: China Watch: IWC IW389001 Posts: 762	233 <> 312? I had the same dilemma... I decided it had to be the new 1950 style case. I didn't think I would like the dome on the 233/270, and liked the simplicity of the 312 dial. I also wanted an automatic, not a manual wind. The possibility of GMT and a bracelet option had me heading to the 320/329. However, once seen in person, it all changed. The dome looks very special in the flesh. The in photographs the distortion is sometime perceived to be unattractive, but when you move it around in front of you, it is like looking through an antique glass window while walking past: you can perceive the dial detail fine, and it somehow animates it. Also something that isn't easy to see in photos, the 312/320 are thicker in the metal part of the body, much thicker. Also the case back is very prominent. This makes them look very tall on the wrist. Even the 270 is a little bigger, leaving the 233 the best balanced look for me. Finally, I didn't think I would like the "fang", but now I enjoy the manual wind and the way it lets you crank it back to 8 days (really more like 10+) So you have to see them in the flesh. Then maybe you will end up stretching your original budget like I did.

7 August 2009, 12:30 PM	#23
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	sigh...both are my favorites right now.. can probably only afford the 312... __________________ too much into watches...

7 August 2009, 12:42 PM	#24
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	Both are stunning but the 312 is my favorite. __________________ My grails:

9 August 2009, 01:25 PM	#25
dennlow "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 19	For me.. It has got to be the 312.. maybe I am biased cos i just bgt the 312 couple of weeks ago and is loving it

9 August 2009, 02:45 PM	#26
Watchdog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Junkyard Dog Location: The Doghouse Watch: I can't tell time Posts: 6,842	Interesting debate. I am not a Panerai aficionado; however, the ONLY PAM I have ever desperately wanted is the 312. To me, there is no comparison.

9 August 2009, 10:15 PM	#27
alphamale2012 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Posts: 1,305	Has to be the 312.

10 August 2009, 07:22 AM	#28
Tommysol "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California Posts: 591	Very interesting...the vote is unofficially... PAM 312 13 votes PAM 233 10 Votes My vote..all things considered...the PAM 312 by a mile! Tom

10 August 2009, 03:26 PM	#29
Dom "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Dominik Location: Zürich Watch: Rolex, Patek, FPJ Posts: 381	233 for the movement and the domed glas. But the price on the 312 can't be beaten.

10 August 2009, 04:02 PM	#30
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	Just got the call for the 312... I have the 233 - I have to say - the 233 for me is just an absolutely awesome watch. for me 233 (no need for 312) The economic question is valid.... Certainly can't go wrong with 312. Panerai fans are very fortunate! __________________ Jackson

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