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wgdaytona · 11 February 2023, 10:37 AM

I'm not a novice, but older ladies DJ is out of my wheelhouse. It appears I have a 18K 26mm Ladies DJ from the 70's or 80's, with President bracelet. The source (good friend) says it was grandmas but unknown when grandma acquired it. But he believes it's 100% legit, as Grandma would have never owned a fake, although I question if the diamond bezel is Rolex or aftermarket. I'll have to get my watch guy (other side of town and it will be a couple weeks before I can get down there) to open it up and check inside. Currently runs but doesn't time correctly. Curious, it only has 2 steps/clicks out on the crown. The first winds, the second turns the hands. There is no 3rd to set the date, you have to run the hands around to change the date... Shouldn't a DJ have a 3rd click out? It's a holes case, but I"m not sure what year in the 70 or 80's the case was made to no holes case. It has the correct hallmarks on the case lug undersides, but it would have to be opened to get a serial. It's 26mm with 13mm bracelet. Please expand for those with good knowledge on this model... Thank you, I'll check back in later...

wgdaytona · 11 February 2023, 10:41 AM

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Trailboss516 · 11 February 2023, 10:41 AM

Holy moley

wgdaytona · 11 February 2023, 10:42 AM

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huncho · 11 February 2023, 10:44 AM

you question whether or not that bezel is factory? you really think rolex would release a bezel like that? lol

Andad · 11 February 2023, 10:47 AM

That is some combination.

TheWatchmen · 11 February 2023, 11:06 AM

The bezel is not factory.

Just my opinion and you should post clearer photos if possible, but the text on the dial and the date window looks off.

Sorry, but to my eyes at first glance that not a genuine Rolex.

dannyp · 11 February 2023, 12:43 PM

Aren't the Milgauss and Sea Dweller the only Rolexes to have case back engravings?

Stud Screw · 11 February 2023, 12:50 PM

Grandma may never have worn a fake Rolex, and by the looks of it she never wore fake diamonds.

Mr. K · 11 February 2023, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dannyp

Aren't the Milgauss and Sea Dweller the only Rolexes to have case back engravings?

Older ladies DJ also had caseback engravings

csaltphoto · 11 February 2023, 01:49 PM

If you do some googling around with the bracelet code (8570) you will find some watches similar to that. Apparently at some point the president bracelet was available with some lady DJ's. The bezel is def aftermarket.

Odd duck. Some things look ok about it. Some don't.

KY.. · 11 February 2023, 03:12 PM

Should be a 6917 lady datejust from the 70’s with 2030 non-quickset movement.
To me the only non Rolex part is the diamond bezel, but it fits the era of expensive custom diamond bezel additions.
Photos between both lugs, of the movement, and inside of case back will provide you with the best answers though.

zengineer · 11 February 2023, 10:13 PM

No, it is not too big for your wrist.

fskywalker · 11 February 2023, 10:38 PM

As said above most likely the watch is genuine except for the bezel; a watchmen can check it inside for you and confirms if the movement is genuine. How much does it weighs?

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wgdaytona · 12 February 2023, 03:18 AM

working on a few better pics. not sure we have a small kitchen scale, I'll look

wgdaytona · 12 February 2023, 03:21 AM

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wgdaytona · 12 February 2023, 03:21 AM

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wgdaytona · 12 February 2023, 03:22 AM

Serial number is 720XXXX.

wgdaytona · 12 February 2023, 03:23 AM

I'll check back later for any helpful and constructive comments. Thank you.

amh · 12 February 2023, 04:06 AM

Does it feel heavy? A solid gold Rolex should have some heft.

EEpro · 12 February 2023, 04:08 AM

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No, it is not too big for your wrist.

JSolution · 12 February 2023, 04:19 AM

Older datejusts do not have a quickset date function. That’s all I’m going to contribute. I hated hated hated my 1601 for this it was an absolute F******** nightmare setting the date it literally gave me cramp in my thumb lol

dannyp · 12 February 2023, 04:35 AM

For a watch of that age, I’d bet all you need is for a jeweler to tell you if the gold is real. Back then, fakes were lousy, no such thing as a” super clone” and there’s virtually zero chance of real gold being used.

wgdaytona · 12 February 2023, 11:30 AM

Weight is 2.34 OZ or 67 Grams. Including bracelet and bezel. Does anyone know what it should weigh?

S’portEye · 12 February 2023, 01:03 PM

My mother has this watch with a fluted bezel.She got it in the 80’s.

11 February 2023, 10:37 AM	#1
wgdaytona 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 919	What do I have?" I'm not a novice, but older ladies DJ is out of my wheelhouse. It appears I have a 18K 26mm Ladies DJ from the 70's or 80's, with President bracelet. The source (good friend) says it was grandmas but unknown when grandma acquired it. But he believes it's 100% legit, as Grandma would have never owned a fake, although I question if the diamond bezel is Rolex or aftermarket. I'll have to get my watch guy (other side of town and it will be a couple weeks before I can get down there) to open it up and check inside. Currently runs but doesn't time correctly. Curious, it only has 2 steps/clicks out on the crown. The first winds, the second turns the hands. There is no 3rd to set the date, you have to run the hands around to change the date... Shouldn't a DJ have a 3rd click out? It's a holes case, but I"m not sure what year in the 70 or 80's the case was made to no holes case. It has the correct hallmarks on the case lug undersides, but it would have to be opened to get a serial. It's 26mm with 13mm bracelet. Please expand for those with good knowledge on this model... Thank you, I'll check back in later...

11 February 2023, 10:41 AM	#2
wgdaytona 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 919	pics IMG_1704.jpg IMG_1702.jpg IMG_1701.jpg IMG_1692.jpg

11 February 2023, 10:42 AM	#4
wgdaytona 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 919	more pics IMG_1709.jpg IMG_1708.jpg IMG_1707.jpg IMG_1706.jpg IMG_1705.jpg

11 February 2023, 10:47 AM	#6
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,484	That is some combination. __________________ E

11 February 2023, 11:06 AM	#7
TheWatchmen "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,363	What do I have?" The bezel is not factory. Just my opinion and you should post clearer photos if possible, but the text on the dial and the date window looks off. Sorry, but to my eyes at first glance that not a genuine Rolex.

11 February 2023, 10:41 AM	#3
Trailboss516 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: In denial Watch: It's complicated Posts: 1,619	Holy moley

11 February 2023, 10:44 AM	#5
huncho 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: nyc Posts: 6,705	you question whether or not that bezel is factory? you really think rolex would release a bezel like that? lol

11 February 2023, 12:43 PM	#8
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	Aren't the Milgauss and Sea Dweller the only Rolexes to have case back engravings?

11 February 2023, 12:50 PM	#9
Stud Screw "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Detroit Watch: 16233 Posts: 790	Grandma may never have worn a fake Rolex, and by the looks of it she never wore fake diamonds. __________________ “Better to have thunk wrong than not thunk at all.”

11 February 2023, 01:49 PM	#11
csaltphoto "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: US Watch: sub Posts: 2,426	If you do some googling around with the bracelet code (8570) you will find some watches similar to that. Apparently at some point the president bracelet was available with some lady DJ's. The bezel is def aftermarket. Odd duck. Some things look ok about it. Some don't.

11 February 2023, 03:12 PM	#12
KY.. 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Real Name: Keith Location: California Watch: 60s to 90s Posts: 1,371	Should be a 6917 lady datejust from the 70’s with 2030 non-quickset movement. To me the only non Rolex part is the diamond bezel, but it fits the era of expensive custom diamond bezel additions. Photos between both lugs, of the movement, and inside of case back will provide you with the best answers though. __________________ Just an admirer/enthusiast of vintage Rolex/Heuer/Zenith/Breitling/Hamilton watches since the 80’s… Ex—https://imgur.com/FnO9FRy — ”I Do Love The Details, But I Can Choose If I Accept The Flaws…”

11 February 2023, 10:13 PM	#13
zengineer "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,588	No, it is not too big for your wrist.

11 February 2023, 10:38 PM	#14
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,157	As said above most likely the watch is genuine except for the bezel; a watchmen can check it inside for you and confirms if the movement is genuine. How much does it weighs? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

12 February 2023, 03:18 AM	#15
wgdaytona 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 919	working on a few better pics. not sure we have a small kitchen scale, I'll look

12 February 2023, 03:21 AM	#16
wgdaytona 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 919	more pics IMG_1711.jpg IMG_1714.jpg IMG_1717.jpg IMG_1723.jpg

12 February 2023, 03:22 AM	#18
wgdaytona 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 919	Serial number is 720XXXX.

12 February 2023, 03:23 AM	#19
wgdaytona 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 919	I'll check back later for any helpful and constructive comments. Thank you.

12 February 2023, 04:06 AM	#20
amh "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tejas Watch: Various Posts: 5,082	Does it feel heavy? A solid gold Rolex should have some heft.

12 February 2023, 04:19 AM	#22
JSolution "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Jay Location: England Watch: SkyD Posts: 6,398	Older datejusts do not have a quickset date function. That’s all I’m going to contribute. I hated hated hated my 1601 for this it was an absolute F******** nightmare setting the date it literally gave me cramp in my thumb lol

12 February 2023, 04:35 AM	#23
dannyp Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 6,765	For a watch of that age, I’d bet all you need is for a jeweler to tell you if the gold is real. Back then, fakes were lousy, no such thing as a” super clone” and there’s virtually zero chance of real gold being used.

12 February 2023, 11:30 AM	#24
wgdaytona 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 919	Weight is 2.34 OZ or 67 Grams. Including bracelet and bezel. Does anyone know what it should weigh?

12 February 2023, 01:03 PM	#25
S’portEye "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Shreveport Posts: 1,399	My mother has this watch with a fluted bezel.She got it in the 80’s.

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