Another... Would You Trade?

[OG1982]

TLDR - Should I trade a 2015 Panerai PAM00512 for a BB54 on rubber?





I have a small and modest collection of watches and feel like I need a bit of a change.



I have a Panerai which I love, but doesn't see much action. Mainly because I daily a 114270 Explorer from 2004, and have a 124060 Submariner which is my favourite.



I am considering a trade, I'd be letting the Panerai go and it would be replaced with the new BB54 on rubber with a T fit clasp.



The Panerai is a PAM00512 from 2015. It’s a full set and I really do like the Panerai look, but appreciate the 42mm size of this model and the 1940 Radiomir case.



The new BB54 is a lovely looking watch, it is a simple time only piece which I like and it has the rubber strap and T Fit clasp, so my issues with the BB58 and the faux rivets and lack of on the fly adjustment is addressed.



So the question is, is this trade worth pursuing? I am asking purely around the watches as maybe there is something I am missing or haven’t yet considered. I don’t require any financial advice.



Thanks all in advance

[OG1982]

A pic of the Panerai for a little more context…




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[shammad10]

I prefer the Panerai. But if you don't wear it much, then sell it- you'll send up with more than the BB54 is worth I would think.
Also the 37mm size would be a big change! The dial will look very small!

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by shammad10

I prefer the Panerai. But if you don't wear it much, then sell it- you'll send up with more than the BB54 is worth I would think.
Also the 37mm size would be a big change! The dial will look very small!

Thanks for your insight.

I appreciate the watch is very different and will be smaller than the Panerai. I am used to a 36mm Explorer which I daily so I don't think the smaller size is as big of a deal to me than it would be for others.

Think I need to see the 54 in person before I can make a proper call either way.

[travisb]

Definitely see the 54 in person before making the decision.
It's a good looking watch but wouldn't make that decision on pics alone.

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by travisb

Definitely see the 54 in person before making the decision.
It's a good looking watch but wouldn't make that decision on pics alone.

Cheers mate, good advice. I'm off to see one either tomorrow or Friday

[shammad10]

Originally Posted by Ollie1982

Thanks for your insight.

I appreciate the watch is very different and will be smaller than the Panerai. I am used to a 36mm Explorer which I daily so I don't think the smaller size is as big of a deal to me than it would be for others.

Think I need to see the 54 in person before I can make a proper call either way.

Ye definitely.
I wonder what the dial size between the Explorer36 and the BB54 is. With the bezel on the BB54 I think the dial size might actually be smaller than the Explorer 36!

[travisb]

Originally Posted by Ollie1982

Cheers mate, good advice. I'm off to see one either tomorrow or Friday

Good luck!

[joli160]

I also do like the Panerai much more than the BB54 because it is really a different style compared with the BB.

In competition with the Sub and Explorer I would not see myself wearing the BB much.

[ol' Rex]

Originally Posted by joli160

In competition with the Sub and Explorer I would not see myself wearing the BB much.

This is a very good point and something to consider.

Good luck with your decision!

[DJFanUK]

Keep the PAM

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by joli160

I also do like the Panerai much more than the BB54 because it is really a different style compared with the BB.

In competition with the Sub and Explorer I would not see myself wearing the BB much.

Thanks for your insight

That's what I am concerned about, changing out a watch I'm not wearing much for another watch that'll just sit around.

I have a small collection of 3 main watches and numerous others (like Seiko and Tissot), but I'm the kind of person that wants to get use out of all three main ones and don't like redundant pieces in my main watch roll.

Saying all of that (or writing it), maybe I'm more a two watch guy than three. Or maybe I just haven't found the right third watch yet?!

All these first world problems huh...

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by joli160

I also do like the Panerai much more than the BB54 because it is really a different style compared with the BB.

In competition with the Sub and Explorer I would not see myself wearing the BB much.

That’s where I land on it as well

If I had a Submariner I’d find the BB redundant.

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by Ollie1982

Thanks for your insight.

I appreciate the watch is very different and will be smaller than the Panerai. I am used to a 36mm Explorer which I daily so I don't think the smaller size is as big of a deal to me than it would be for others.

Think I need to see the 54 in person before I can make a proper call either way.

Definitely try it on. I got to try the 54 on a few weeks ago, and I found it miniature. Gorgeous but miniature.

Then again, 39mm is my absolutely cut-off point, so if you're used to a 36mm Explorer you may think it's OK. No substitute for trying on though.

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by Driver8

Definitely try it on. I got to try the 54 on a few weeks ago, and I found it miniature. Gorgeous but miniature.

Then again, 39mm is my absolutely cut-off point, so if you're used to a 36mm Explorer you may think it's OK. No substitute for trying on though.

Looking forward to seeing it in person that's for sure

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by brandrea

That’s where I land on it as well

If I had a Submariner I’d find the BB redundant.

This is a good point and one I'm having issues getting passed!

I think the lack of bracelet (and I know you much prefer watch on their metal bracelets) actually makes it stand apart from my Submariner. But maybe that is just wishful thinking on my part.

I'll know more once I've seen it in the flesh

[JonaG]

I do like the PAM in that picture. I wear my 111 quite often and it always feels like a different beast from the rest of my collection. I also have a sub no date and will be adding a black bay next month so…tough one. If the PAM doesn’t get worn let it go. Redundancy is very subjective too, can never have too many divers.

[1William]

The Panerai is unique in both appearance and wear. You can change the straps and get so many different looks for the watch. I have handled the BB 54 at my AD and while a cool watch how does it fit in with the rest of your collection? Your Explorer and Submariner cover the area the BB is going and while it is a nice watch, it seems redundant in your collection. I would go see the 54, strap on the Panerai for a week or two and then see what I wanted to do.

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by 1William

The Panerai is unique in both appearance and wear. You can change the straps and get so many different looks for the watch. I have handled the BB 54 at my AD and while a cool watch how does it fit in with the rest of your collection? Your Explorer and Submariner cover the area the BB is going and while it is a nice watch, it seems redundant in your collection. I would go see the 54, strap on the Panerai for a week or two and then see what I wanted to do.

That's yet another good point, thank you.

I have many straps for the Panerai, from leather to rubber and also the ribbed NATOs which matches it well. The Panerai covers many bases and that means it will leave a big hole in my collection if it goes.

The long and short of it now, is that the BB54 will really have to knock me off my feet to make me want to pursue this trade

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by JonaG

I do like the PAM in that picture. I wear my 111 quite often and it always feels like a different beast from the rest of my collection. I also have a sub no date and will be adding a black bay next month so…tough one. If the PAM doesn’t get worn let it go. Redundancy is very subjective too, can never have too many divers.

It works well on a large number of straps and offers me something different in the collection, that is for sure.

You clearly have a good taste in watches!

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by joli160

I also do like the Panerai much more than the BB54 because it is really a different style compared with the BB.

In competition with the Sub and Explorer I would not see myself wearing the BB much.

Originally Posted by brandrea

That’s where I land on it as well

If I had a Submariner I’d find the BB redundant.

Originally Posted by 1William

The Panerai is unique in both appearance and wear. You can change the straps and get so many different looks for the watch. I have handled the BB 54 at my AD and while a cool watch how does it fit in with the rest of your collection? Your Explorer and Submariner cover the area the BB is going and while it is a nice watch, it seems redundant in your collection. I would go see the 54, strap on the Panerai for a week or two and then see what I wanted to do.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Ollie1982

This is a good point and one I'm having issues getting passed!

I think the lack of bracelet (and I know you much prefer watch on their metal bracelets) actually makes it stand apart from my Submariner. But maybe that is just wishful thinking on my part.

I'll know more once I've seen it in the flesh

Good luck

I agree with you fully, seeing it in person is always best for sure

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[davek35]

Try it in person if possible.

I like vintage sizing, so it seemed right to add it with my 124270.

Good luck!

[AJMarcus]

I wouldn’t do it. You said you loved the Pam 512. So why trade it. Just add when you can. In a year or less BB54s will be dropping and easy to pick up preowned. The 512 is gone and there’s nothing in the dismal Panerai catalog today even close to its unique DNA. Missing a watch you trade that’s no longer in production is a sad affair indeed. I’ve been there done that.

[Mystro]

The Panerai offers more diversity and is the ultimate strap watch.

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by davek35

Try it in person if possible.

I like vintage sizing, so it seemed right to add it with my 124270.

Good luck!

That is a very interesting picture, thanks for sharing. Seems to be ever so slighlty bigger than the Explorer, which would suit me down to the ground.

Just need to decide once I've seen it, and work out if I can do without the Panerai.

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

I wouldn’t do it. You said you loved the Pam 512. So why trade it. Just add when you can. In a year or less BB54s will be dropping and easy to pick up preowned. The 512 is gone and there’s nothing in the dismal Panerai catalog today even close to its unique DNA. Missing a watch you trade that’s no longer in production is a sad affair indeed. I’ve been there done that.

I've been lucky that I've never traded / sold a watch and regretted it, but my luck could run our soon!

Must admit I really need to give this some more thought as I don't want to miss the Panerai if it goes. I also need to work out if it's worth keeping a watch that I love but rarely wear.

[Jackie Daytona]

I think I would keep the Panerai personally. I think it’s a cool watch that keeps the collection diverse.

The Tudor is not a Rolex granted, but the BB speaking to a similar design language to the Sub that you already own and love, it really takes some diversity away losing the Panerai IMO.

That being said, I will say if you prefer smaller watches and the PAM doesn’t get much wrist time that it may indeed be worth doing it as it sounds like the larger size may be what’s making the Panerai less wearable. I would stick with the Panerai however as it’s part of a collection.

[SS Oyster]

I’d keep the PAM or shift it towards something non-diver, like Tudor or Rolex GMT.


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[BobbyD2323]

I’d keep what you have