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Old 25 July 2023, 09:32 AM   #1
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Has anyone gotten pushback from an RSC to for being super picky on accuracy?

Just wondering. Sending it in when 3 s/day fast?
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Old 25 July 2023, 09:57 AM   #2
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Not really. My 32xx is within COSC but it ticks backwards. So they said it’s fine.
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Old 25 July 2023, 10:40 AM   #3
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If its within COSC I doubt they'll be receptive.
If its within Spec, its within Spec

Let me honest, were talking about it gaining 18min per year (assuming you wear it everyday and dont have to reset if for DST/travel)
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Old 25 July 2023, 11:27 AM   #4
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I've never had any problems and I've had 3 watches at the same time that were set up by Rolex so that they would run + or - 0 seconds per day for weeks at a time whilst on rotation but within reasonable tolerances and wavering very slightly.

Currently, I have two that are within the Superlative Chronometer spec and one has not changed since new 12 years ago and it was a COSC spec era watch.
I Imagine that if I asked nicely, that Rolex would be able to happily tweak these two a little bit.

If a watch is healthy there is no reason why one should not ask the question but a fast watch is very much easier to manage by simply hacking the movement or setting it slightly behind time so that it will catch up.
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Old 25 July 2023, 12:23 PM   #5
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At +3 sec I myself just wouldn't start. Now, I confess that when my DJ41 was at -4.5 per day--and probably sliding further, as I had started at +2 only 14 months earlier--then it was time to call RSC. At this they were completely understanding and did the service without quibble.
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Old 25 July 2023, 12:35 PM   #6
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You're concerned about 3 seconds per day? Mechanical watches may not be for you.
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Old 25 July 2023, 12:53 PM   #7
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You can’t blame them if they turn you down over this imho
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Old 25 July 2023, 01:33 PM   #8
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The time away from one’s wrist isn’t worth super pickiness methinks.


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Old 25 July 2023, 02:06 PM   #9
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I don‘t know. I wouldn‘t send it in for +3, unless it had low amplitude, but that‘s a running slow issue, AFAIK. I think my levels would be -4 or +5 (for a -2/+2 watch).
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Old 25 July 2023, 02:10 PM   #10
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I don’t think I wear any one watch long enough to notice time gain/loss
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Old 25 July 2023, 04:24 PM   #11
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At 3 seconds a day I wouldn’t be stressed out by it
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Old 25 July 2023, 04:41 PM   #12
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At 3 seconds a day I wouldn’t be stressed out by it

Me, neither. That is still within COSC specs.

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Old 25 July 2023, 04:51 PM   #13
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Buy an Apple Watch lol...JK man.

I see a 5513 and 1675 on your profile, are those running within COSC spec?
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Old 25 July 2023, 04:51 PM   #14
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Just wondering. Sending it in when 3 s/day fast?
+3s for daily wear would be amazing. Every now and again you check your phone, pull the crown for a few seconds and it’s bang on again.

What’s your range though? Off the wrist, different positions, continuous wear etc?

If you’re saying it’s +3s whatever then you definitely should leave that watch be.
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Old 25 July 2023, 05:40 PM   #15
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Just wondering. Sending it in when 3 s/day fast?
Anyone sending in a watch to a RSC because its 3 seconds fast out of 86400 seconds in a day.Must either be sixpence short of a shilling or got todays deadly {CCTFESS}constant checking time for exact second syndrome, which seems to be getting more deadly each day.Remember this the escapement of a mechanical watch in 24 hours pushes the gears 432,000 times.Given the fact on the wrist the movement is constantly affected by the earth's gravity, metal expansion and contraction,mainspring power-reserve, temperature variations, subtle changes in lubrication and friction, shocks, and so on.The fact is that no mechanical watch made will keep 100% perfect time, very close yes but perfect no.
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Old 25 July 2023, 07:14 PM   #16
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I wouldn't notice it.
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Old 25 July 2023, 07:42 PM   #17
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Pretty good by most standards. If it’s fairly new it may change slightly once it settles in.
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Old 25 July 2023, 07:43 PM   #18
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I wouldn't notice it.
Right?

Seriously OP, if you have a fast running 32xx movement it’s likely worth more
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Old 25 July 2023, 08:57 PM   #19
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+3spd would bother me too, but not quite enough to send to RSC. I’d keep track of it though. +figures are quite a lot easier to correct than -figures, as someone earlier pointed out.

I’m told by an RSC trained chap that RSC generally prefer to have your watch gain rather than lose, but I’ve never had anything back from RSC (nor any new watch) gain — all of them have run very slightly slow. Having said that, I never take mine off, and I do know that many people correct their daytime error in the way they set down their watch at night… I just don’t have the time nor patience to be taking my watch off and on to correct deviation!

Finally, I should mention that vintage pieces are (at least in my experience) significantly less accurate than newer watches — even when serviced by RSC. I have had one run well, but non of the other 1675/1675(3)s I’ve had over the years have even been close to COSC when returned by RSC (though others have had far more luck in that department than I have).


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Old 25 July 2023, 09:23 PM   #20
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I would just enjoy the watch and not send it to the RSC. Issues can arise while it is being serviced and the time away does not justify the one second a day that it is out. If you are checking and resetting the watch daily you might not be giving it a chance to wear through and adjust as it goes. Set the time and let it go for a week and then check it again and see where you are. Also, my watches do better when I wear them as opposed to putting them on a winder or just winding them and setting them down.
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Old 25 July 2023, 10:18 PM   #21
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My 7 days old 116500 is also 2.5 - 3 sec fast per day. No need to send it, it's within specs use it
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Old 25 July 2023, 10:24 PM   #22
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3 seconds a Day??? My Invicta is only 2 seconds a Day.
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Old 25 July 2023, 10:27 PM   #23
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I'd never risk RSC (or anyone else) cracking the case open for +3 sec variance. As stated, it's within COSC.

Personally I only start to get bothered if a daily variance approaches double figures, as that can quickly add up. 10 secs a day is 5 mins a month, but you're looking at no more than 1.5 mins over the same period.
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Old 25 July 2023, 10:30 PM   #24
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My guess is if it’s out of spec they’ll adjust it, but considering wearing habits and everything it’s no guarantee it’ll come back running better on your wrist.

For +3 I think it would be absolutely ridiculous to send it in myself. While the Rolex standard of +/-2 is great I wouldn’t consider sending something in unless it’s outside of cosc myself (-4/+6)

Also, if this is a question about a specific watch actually running at that rate, how old is it? In my experience many movements slow a little when new, it seems to happen to just about every watch of mine. My Sub Date for example has slowed by a little over a second in the first month I’ve been wearing it but now appears to be holding steady. This happened to an Exp I, OP39, and previous gen Sub I had too…all slowed slightly in the first month or two.
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Old 25 July 2023, 10:30 PM   #25
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I'm now 9 weeks without my beloved watch: week 9 of a 10-week service.

I won't be sending it back if the second-hand is going anti-clockwise.
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Old 25 July 2023, 10:40 PM   #26
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Has anyone gotten pushback from an RSC to for being super picky on accuracy?

When my 3235 slipped to -4 spd having been no worse than +0.5 I took it in.

They asked me about winding and wearing and habits. They finally realised I wasn’t an idiot and knew what I was doing and no more problems.

However, the mysterious mutes at RSC never said what the problem was.


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Old 25 July 2023, 10:58 PM   #27
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I would not notice it or care. Rolex brought all this fuss on themselves when they started marketing their products on ridiculously tight accuracy rates. You say its accurate to one second per decade, owners will come back if they are off two seconds per decade. It's the old adage of paying all that money, you should get what you paid for.
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Old 25 July 2023, 11:08 PM   #28
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Just wondering. Sending it in when 3 s/day fast?
Maybe look into quartz watches if extreme accuracy is your thing.
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Old 25 July 2023, 11:13 PM   #29
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No, not really.

The tech at my AD is super helpful in this regard. If I'm thinking something isn't right in the timing department, he will give it a going over with his expertise and equipment, and if he deems it out of spec, off it goes. If not, it stays.

Which is yet another benefit to having a relationship with a great AD.
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Old 25 July 2023, 11:28 PM   #30
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+3 is crazy, sorry.

I've had some non rolex at +8 that I deal with. I had one run randomly at +12 and behave erratic, that was the only one I ever sent back because it wasn't consistent.

As long as it is consistent and up to say +10 It wouldn't bother me until service.
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