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metalgear64 · 21 August 2023, 01:04 PM

Hello guys. I’m trying to decide between a Rolex Champagne Dial Two Tone Datejust 16013 or Explorer 1 14270. Both come with box and papers. I have an OP Date Silver Dial 1500 from 1974 and was thinking about purchasing another watch. Would like any insight on the manner. I have attached a few images of both. Appreciate you guys. Cheers.

TuRo · 21 August 2023, 05:05 PM

A matter of preference. Love both pieces. If it matters the 14270 will be more collectable/investment grade. On the 14270 it should be a U or A serial as it's swiss dial/no lug holes. The 14270 should be about 60/70% more expensive probably mind.

pk552502 · 21 August 2023, 10:28 PM

I would go with the 14270 for sure. The prices of these are very reasonable. I also have a swiss only dial with a no holes case. That's a great model. You may try to find a 14270 tritium dial with holes case. I may have done that looking back on it.

Dan S · 21 August 2023, 10:33 PM

Whichever you prefer. They are apples and oranges.

tekno · 22 August 2023, 03:25 AM

These threads keep popping up, two totally different watches. Im guessing you are comparing them since they are similar in price? I would say pick the Explorer out of the two even though I own two TT DJ, a 16013 and 16233 which I love - I just think you can get more out of the Explorer.

I would also say that I like sharp watches, if one of them was much more sharp/unpolished I may lean toward that one.

L.K Johnson · 22 August 2023, 11:05 AM

Buy both! You won’t regret it!! : ) #enabler

metalgear64 · 22 August 2023, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TuRo

A matter of preference. Love both pieces. If it matters the 14270 will be more collectable/investment grade. On the 14270 it should be a U or A serial as it's swiss dial/no lug holes. The 14270 should be about 60/70% more expensive probably mind.

Thank you for your time. I agree with it being more of an investment watch opposed to the DJ. Since I have an OP and the both 1500 and 14270 have an oyster band I'm leaning more towards the DJ. Tough choice for sure.

metalgear64 · 22 August 2023, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

Whichever you prefer. They are apples and oranges.

Very True. Thank you for your time!

metalgear64 · 22 August 2023, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pk552502

I would go with the 14270 for sure. The prices of these are very reasonable. I also have a swiss only dial with a no holes case. That's a great model. You may try to find a 14270 tritium dial with holes case. I may have done that looking back on it.

Yea my buddy told me the same thing. Very much so. I love the 14270 but I also have grown to love the TT DJ. I'll decide soon! Thanks.

metalgear64 · 22 August 2023, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tekno

These threads keep popping up, two totally different watches. Im guessing you are comparing them since they are similar in price? I would say pick the Explorer out of the two even though I own two TT DJ, a 16013 and 16233 which I love - I just think you can get more out of the Explorer.

I would also say that I like sharp watches, if one of them was much more sharp/unpolished I may lean toward that one.

Very different watches indeed. They both serve different purposes. Yes, these two watches I've found are pretty close in pricing. You can def get more out of the 14270 but I also wanted to pick something up that didn't have an oyster band. Thanks!

metalgear64 · 22 August 2023, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by L.K Johnson

Buy both! You won’t regret it!! : ) #enabler

haha wishful thinking!

TuRo · 22 August 2023, 08:14 PM

Somewhere between the DJ and the Exp1 and with oyster or a Jubillee from AD... the ten or so year run, circa noughties, 36mm turn-o-graph came on a Jubillee btw as well as an oyster (like the 90/00s 16710 gmt did).

Like this : Rolex Datejust Turn-O-Graph
£7,614
https://chrono24.app/rolex/datejust-...GB&SETCURR=GBP

1William · 22 August 2023, 09:14 PM

Probably the DJ but I would prefer it in a SS.

pk552502 · 22 August 2023, 09:39 PM

Not sure if this matters for your decision, but I find the 14270 wears just a bit smaller than my 16030 datejust. Both are 36mm, but the datejust wears a little bit larger in my opinion. I love them both, and find myself wearing the 14270 more.

tekno · 23 August 2023, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuRo

Somewhere between the DJ and the Exp1 and with oyster or a Jubillee from AD... the ten or so year run, circa noughties, 36mm turn-o-graph came on a Jubillee btw as well as an oyster (like the 90/00s 16710 gmt did).

Like this : Rolex Datejust Turn-O-Graph
£7,614
https://chrono24.app/rolex/datejust-...GB&SETCURR=GBP

I forgot about those watches.

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onetwo127 · 31 August 2023, 05:44 AM

DJ has more eye appeal. An apples and orange comparison though.

whatsthetime? · 31 August 2023, 06:38 AM

Does this help any?
IMG_0548.jpeg

metalgear64 · 6 September 2023, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TuRo

Somewhere between the DJ and the Exp1 and with oyster or a Jubillee from AD... the ten or so year run, circa noughties, 36mm turn-o-graph came on a Jubillee btw as well as an oyster (like the 90/00s 16710 gmt did).

Like this : Rolex Datejust Turn-O-Graph
£7,614
https://chrono24.app/rolex/datejust-...GB&SETCURR=GBP

That's a really cool underrated watch. I don't think Iv'e seen one on anyone. I think I like it better with an oyster band.

metalgear64 · 6 September 2023, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 1William

Probably the DJ but I would prefer it in a SS.

I went with the TT DJ. I have a SS OP Date which is why I wanted something different. But the SS DJ is a great option too!

metalgear64 · 6 September 2023, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by onetwo127

DJ has more eye appeal. An apples and orange comparison though.

Definitely has more appeal. Yes, agreed. I went with the DJ.

metalgear64 · 6 September 2023, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

Does this help any?
Attachment 1388620

Beautiful! I went with the DJ!

metalgear64 · 6 September 2023, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

Does this help any?
Attachment 1388620

Here it is.

metalgear64 · 6 September 2023, 11:23 AM

Thanks for your replies and your time everyone. Cheers!

Dan S · 6 September 2023, 12:27 PM

Thanks for closing the circle and letting us know what you decided.

whatsthetime? · 6 September 2023, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by metalgear64

Beautiful! I went with the DJ!

Thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalgear64

Here it is.

Congratulations, it's beautiful.
Wear it in good health and enjoy.

metalgear64 · 7 September 2023, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

Thanks for closing the circle and letting us know what you decided.

Of course you’re welcome!

metalgear64 · 7 September 2023, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by whatsthetime?

Thank you.

Congratulations, it's beautiful.
Wear it in good health and enjoy.

Thank you! I appreciate that!

metalgear64 · 7 September 2023, 05:55 AM

Any recommendations for calfskin & cordovan leather straps?

metalgear64 · 9 September 2023, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

Thanks for closing the circle and letting us know what you decided.

Any recommendations for calfskin and cordovan leather straps?

Dan S · 9 September 2023, 11:55 AM

I like JonesinTokyo for leather and cordovan straps. Very good quality and will customize. Prices are higher than mass manufacturers, but not insane. He doesn't really specialize in exotic hides.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/JonesInTok...xoCx-YQAvD_BwE

21 August 2023, 05:05 PM	#2
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,811	A matter of preference. Love both pieces. If it matters the 14270 will be more collectable/investment grade. On the 14270 it should be a U or A serial as it's swiss dial/no lug holes. The 14270 should be about 60/70% more expensive probably mind. __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

21 August 2023, 10:33 PM	#4
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,256	Whichever you prefer. They are apples and oranges. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

22 August 2023, 08:14 PM	#12
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,811	Somewhere between the DJ and the Exp1 and with oyster or a Jubillee from AD... the ten or so year run, circa noughties, 36mm turn-o-graph came on a Jubillee btw as well as an oyster (like the 90/00s 16710 gmt did). Like this : Rolex Datejust Turn-O-Graph £7,614 https://chrono24.app/rolex/datejust-...GB&SETCURR=GBP __________________ Thieves and fools and long travelled soldiers, A candid light exposes their homes. Human falter, people bellowed from their homes. And houses, there's fools and long reigning pharaohs. IT BITES - Yellow Christian

31 August 2023, 06:38 AM	#17
whatsthetime? "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Joe Location: NY Posts: 1,219	Does this help any? IMG_0548.jpeg __________________ Submariner 124060 Datejust 16233

6 September 2023, 12:27 PM	#24
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,256	Thanks for closing the circle and letting us know what you decided. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

21 August 2023, 10:28 PM	#3
pk552502 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Real Name: Paul Location: ohio Watch: 16570 black Posts: 502	I would go with the 14270 for sure. The prices of these are very reasonable. I also have a swiss only dial with a no holes case. That's a great model. You may try to find a 14270 tritium dial with holes case. I may have done that looking back on it.

22 August 2023, 03:25 AM	#5
tekno 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Texas Watch: Tudor Snowflake Posts: 1,095	These threads keep popping up, two totally different watches. Im guessing you are comparing them since they are similar in price? I would say pick the Explorer out of the two even though I own two TT DJ, a 16013 and 16233 which I love - I just think you can get more out of the Explorer. I would also say that I like sharp watches, if one of them was much more sharp/unpolished I may lean toward that one.

22 August 2023, 11:05 AM	#6
L.K Johnson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: / Posts: 1,741	Buy both! You won’t regret it!! : ) #enabler

22 August 2023, 09:14 PM	#13
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,598	Probably the DJ but I would prefer it in a SS.

22 August 2023, 09:39 PM	#14
pk552502 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Real Name: Paul Location: ohio Watch: 16570 black Posts: 502	Not sure if this matters for your decision, but I find the 14270 wears just a bit smaller than my 16030 datejust. Both are 36mm, but the datejust wears a little bit larger in my opinion. I love them both, and find myself wearing the 14270 more.

31 August 2023, 05:44 AM	#16
onetwo127 Banned Join Date: Aug 2023 Real Name: Ray Location: United States Watch: Still Dreaming Posts: 121	DJ has more eye appeal. An apples and orange comparison though.

6 September 2023, 11:23 AM	#23
metalgear64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: New Jersey Posts: 22	Thanks for your replies and your time everyone. Cheers!

7 September 2023, 05:55 AM	#28
metalgear64 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: New Jersey Posts: 22	Any recommendations for calfskin & cordovan leather straps?

9 September 2023, 11:55 AM	#30
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,256	I like JonesinTokyo for leather and cordovan straps. Very good quality and will customize. Prices are higher than mass manufacturers, but not insane. He doesn't really specialize in exotic hides. https://www.etsy.com/shop/JonesInTok...xoCx-YQAvD_BwE __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

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