Rolex model name problems

[Walkersun]

The big one for me is Explorer II. Such an uninspired name. There’s no 3-6-9, and besides the Mercedes handset, I really don’t see any relation between the original Explorer and the Explorer II at all. They should have just come up with a new name for it. What that name should have been, I’m not sure.

On the other hand, the Sea-Dweller could have easily been called the Submariner II, but instead they came up with a new cool name for it.

Another one is Yacht-Master II. Even though its complication makes it more of a yacht master than the original Yacht-Master; it’s so different. Again, they should have just come up with a new name for it. Rolex Regatta, maybe? I don’t know..

Sky-Dweller is a great name for a watch, but just think, they could have called it the GMT-Master III! Which reminds me… GMT Master II… I guess I get why they called it that initially, but I don’t think the “II” designation makes much sense today. It should just be GMT Master, period.

Does anyone else have issues with certain model names?



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[travisb]

I have no issues with the names as they are.

[Gerardus]

I like the name Milgauss

[Driver8]

Originally Posted by travisb

I have no issues with the names as they are.

This ^. I have zero issues with Rolex's proper names.

I also have no issue with the Rolex reference numbers, but I do have issues with the ridiculous forced nicknames.

[PenDelicate]

Hmm, hadn't thought about it before.

I suppose it does seem to lack a little ... cohesion.

[Bazil]

I like to here the words ‘Daytona’, from my AD when I get the next call ..

[zengineer]

How did all this lint get in my belly button?

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[askdanny]

Good points, OP. There hasn't been a GMT-Master for almost a quarter of a century. There is no need for a II if there's no I.

As an owner of the new Explorer II (black dial), I like the name and its ties to the (wrongly named) "Steve McQueen" Explorer II 1655.

But Rolex did trademark "Land-Dweller" a couple of months ago: https://database.ipi.ch/database-cli...ark/1207272399

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Driver8

This ^. I have zero issues with Rolex's proper names.

I also have no issue with the Rolex reference numbers, but I do have issues with the ridiculous forced nicknames.

[DLRIDES]

Yacht-Master


I have no idea what a "Yacht-Master" is.

)What is the function of a "Yacht-Master ?
)Are they the "Master" of a yacht ?
)Are others on said yacht subservient to them ?
)Does this "Master" physically assault those who disobey ?
)Is the title given or earned ?
ETC .................

Beautiful watch, the name sounds extremely pretentious.

[Mick8moses]

I like the names

[Robf52]

Originally Posted by travisb

I have no issues with the names as they are.

+1.

[Walkersun]

Originally Posted by Driver8

This ^. I have zero issues with Rolex's proper names.

I also have no issue with the Rolex reference numbers, but I do have issues with the ridiculous forced nicknames.

Yeah, the recent thread about the nicknames made me think about the actual names.


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[Bfd70]

Names are fine. “Nicknames” are childish.

[Walkersun]

Originally Posted by askdanny

Good points, OP. There hasn't been a GMT-Master for almost a quarter of a century. There is no need for a II if there's no I.

As an owner of the new Explorer II (black dial), I like the name and its ties to the (wrongly named) "Steve McQueen" Explorer II 1655.

But Rolex did trademark "Land-Dweller" a couple of months ago: https://database.ipi.ch/database-cli...ark/1207272399

Land-Dweller… a new name! Wonder what that will be?


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[Old Expat Beast]

Sea-Dweller and Sky-Dweller seem odd to me, since to dwell somewhere means to live or reside there. Who actually lives under the sea or in the sky?

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Walkersun

The big one for me is Explorer II. Such an uninspired name. There’s no 3-6-9, and besides the Mercedes handset, I really don’t see any relation between the original Explorer and the Explorer II at all. They should have just come up with a new name for it. What that name should have been, I’m not sure.

On the other hand, the Sea-Dweller could have easily been called the Submariner II, but instead they came up with a new cool name for it.

Another one is Yacht-Master II. Even though its complication makes it more of a yacht master than the original Yacht-Master; it’s so different. Again, they should have just come up with a new name for it. Rolex Regatta, maybe? I don’t know..

Sky-Dweller is a great name for a watch, but just think, they could have called it the GMT-Master III! Which reminds me… GMT Master II… I guess I get why they called it that initially, but I don’t think the “II” designation makes much sense today. It should just be GMT Master, period.

Does anyone else have issues with certain model names?



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Nicknames.
I want to see more nicknames bestowed upon certain references in the absence of inspirational model names and stupid reference numbers.
Some watch reference numbers are nearly as big as the novel that's printed on the dials of some Rolex watches.

[pk552502]

The explorer and explorer 2 make such a great combo that I like the name since it links them together.

I like GMT master 2 because it's a new era.

Yacht master and sky-dweller I don't really care for...

Sea-dweller is alright.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

Yacht-Master


I have no idea what a "Yacht-Master" is.

)What is the function of a "Yacht-Master ?
)Are they the "Master" of a yacht ?
)Are others on said yacht subservient to them ?
)Does this "Master" physically assault those who disobey ?
)Is the title given or earned ?
ETC .................

Beautiful watch, the name sounds extremely pretentious.

Then Yacht-Master was originally a marine chronometer (clock) for racing yachts, as shown here in this 1980s Rolex magazine ad.

[Walkersun]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Then Yacht-Master was originally a marine chronometer (clock) for racing yachts, as shown here in this 1980s Rolex magazine ad.

That’s fantastic, I didn’t know that! They also designed a Yacht-Master prototype chronometer in the late sixties.


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[Walkersun]

Upon further reflection, I realize it’s not actually any of the model names themselves that I have a problem with. It’s just the II designation stamped behind some of them.

I’m just glad we don’t have a Submariner II, which is what the Sea-Dweller could have easily been called based on Rolex’s naming logic.


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[csaltphoto]

The Explorer/Explorer 2 is something of enigma. They could not be more dissimilar. Same with the Yachtmaster and Yachtmaster 2. Could not be more different. Although I'm not sure what a good name for the original Yachtmaster would be. It's basically a submariner dressed up for a formal event. Or a dive watch that really isn't meant for diving. Nothing particularly flattering comes to mind as far as a name... I also think it's a terrific looking watch.

The Airking has had so many different identities and looks the name itself meaningless anymore. Currently it is styled after a cockpit instrument in a car designed to break the land speed record.

[twinfo]

Originally Posted by pendelicate

hmm, hadn't thought about it before.

I suppose it does seem to lack a little ... Cohesion.

+1

[Kevin of Larchmont]

I’ve never been distressed by Rolex model names. I either like the watches or I don’t. Their names are irrelevant to me with the single exception of the Yacht-Master. I like some of the iterations of the watch but I have no maritime experience or aspirations. Quite frankly I’d feel stupid and a fraud with that name on my wrist. Ridiculous maybe, but that’s what goes on in my head.

As for the Explorer and Explorer II I have both and like their differences and the story their names tell.

[Old Expat Beast]

Datejust is another odd one. No-one seems to really know what the name means for sure, although many have theories.

[Walkersun]

Originally Posted by csaltphoto

The Explorer/Explorer 2 is something of enigma. They could not be more dissimilar. Same with the Yachtmaster and Yachtmaster 2. Could not be more different. Although I'm not sure what a good name for the original Yachtmaster would be. It's basically a submariner dressed up for a formal event. Or a dive watch that really isn't meant for diving. Nothing particularly flattering comes to mind as far as a name... I also think it's a terrific looking watch.

The Airking has had so many different identities and looks the name itself meaningless anymore. Currently it is styled after a cockpit instrument in a car designed to break the land speed record.

Exactly right about the Explorer’s.

I don’t mind Air-King as a name, but I suppose you’re right.

How about drop the II from Yacht-Master II and rename the original Deck-Dweller. Someone posted that here a while back and I thought it fit perfect! That’s pretty much what I do while I’m wearing mine, although I have actually taken up sailing the past couple years.


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[Walkersun]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Datejust is another odd one. No-one seems to really know what the name means for sure, although many have theories.

Never thought about Datejust. I guess I just accepted it as is, but yeah, what does it mean exactly?


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[Rushne]

I never had a problem with the naming but now that you have pointed it out... god damn it!! HAHA

Yeah, Yacht Master Regatta might have been nice but its a long name.
Skydweller like you say, is a great name.

YachtDweller for the Yacht Master II :D

Did the GMT Master II not make sense way back in the day? When they changed the movement to have a quick set hour hand, sometimes in the 80's... maybe 83/84, can not recall right now.
Of course now days we are 40ish years of change/innovation away from that namesake.

[Old Expat Beast]

Submariner would be a great name for a watch used by someone who works in a submarine. Likewise the Sea-Dweller. Neither name really makes huge sense for a diver's watch when you think about it, though, except maybe Sea-Dweller for saturation diving, if you would call that kind of work "dwelling".

[PenDelicate]

Seeing as we're having fun with names, I always wondered at the choice of the word, "Oyster."

When I think, "Oyster," I don't think of waterproofness: I think of a creature that must remain wet to survive. I think, fundamentally, of, "Wetness."

When I think, "Dryness," I think, "Desert." So maybe a Sahara case. Or a sand dune case. Or a Sirocco case.