Sell or Be Honest?

[winfieldblue]

Ok, so here's the situation:

I was lucky enough to get a DJ41 from an AD. She really liked me and said she would help me with obtaining watches.

The issue is when I went in, I went in with my partner to find my first Rolex. He also wanted a Rolex and during our general chit-chat before being offered a watch that I loved (and subsequently bought), he also indicated he'd like a DJ36 OR DJ41.

Anyway, in the meantime he has found a DJ from an AD he formed a relationship with. So, he doesn't need one now. But I'd like to obtain a Batgirl from my AD. Here's where I need some advice.

Last week I went in solo to have a general chat and "play the game." It was lovely. Of course I segued into the Batgirl (she lead me there) and she said, "I will help you get the Batgirl, don't worry, but first I need to help your partner. I remember he wanted a DJ36 so I can help him get that first."

Well, he already has a DJ now so we don't need it. But I want the Batgirl.

Do I:

1) go in with my partner, be honest and say he has found one so we don't need to find for him; or

2) sell his DJ, and then buy one from this AD?

Helpful comments please. No "go to grey market" or "stop being pathetic and kissing a**." Please don't comment if that's your contribution. I already know this :)

[jgottsman11]

Be honest and say he already found the watch, or say he isn't really interested anymore. Don't sell his watch for a loss (which is what would happen) just to maintain a relationship with an AD who isn't doing you any favors at this point in the market

[Notimetodie]

Go with your gut feel. I don’t think anyone knows how good your relationship is. If you are ok taking a small hit on the DJ36 but are happy getting the batgirl just do that.

On a side note, it would be somewhat pathetic for your AD to balcklist you for being honest, but as we have seen on this board anything can happen these days

[Gaussian]

Tell the SA that you’d like her to assist your partner first as he thought about it some more and decided that he’d also like to wait for a Batgirl in leu of the DJ.


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[Gaussian]

Originally Posted by Notimetodie

Go with your gut feel. I don’t think anyone knows how good your relationship is. If you are ok taking a small hit on the DJ36 but are happy getting the batgirl just do that.

On a side note, it would be somewhat pathetic for your AD to balcklist you for being honest, but as we have seen on this board anything can happen these days

Agreed but the possibility exists that he might end-up with two DJs, likely selling one at a loss, and never be offered the Bat.

There are limits to how far I’m willing to play the game.


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[worldfamoussam]

I don't think you stand to lose anything telling the truth. If you're willing to follow through on the other thing you've asked for, there is no reason she should not want to continue to help you. If you are punished for being honest, then you've saved the money of spending with someone who'd treat you that way.

[YGRLX]

Say you guys want to share the batgirl and your date just and want to wait for a good daydate next year

[njlam]

Tell the SA your partner broke up with you in some terrible/humiliating way. Say you hope you never see him again and start crying….when she empathetically tries to comfort you, mention the Batgirl…

Problem solved. Mission accomplished.


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[worldfamoussam]

Originally Posted by njlam

Tell the SA your partner broke up with you in some terrible/humiliating way. Say you hope you never see him again and start crying….when she empathetically tries to comfort you, mention the Batgirl…

Problem solved. Mission accomplished.


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OK I was advocating the honest route, but this is pretty remarkable and far more compelling.

[AlabamaLawyer1988]

These things have a way of working themselves out.

DM

[Tphamnd02]

I would be honest. I wanted a DJ41 and thought I was getting one. When I arrived, I was offered another hot dial DJ41 after the SA felt bad and ask the manager if he could sell it to me. The manager said I could have it even though it wasn’t the one I wanted. I passed bc someone else really wanted that watch and figure that would buy me some good will to get me my grail down the road (not the DJ41).

[KatGirl]

Be honest. If she’s a genuinely nice SA, she won’t care that your partner got his watch elsewhere.. Do mention that he’ll always ask her first, for any future watches he wants.

Kat


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[Harry-57]

You don't really need a bunch of strangers to tell you to be honest. You're probably overthinking it.

[996marty]

Just be honest and say you are buying for yourself and not to worry about your partner

[John Doyle]

SAs nowadays only care about selling. I would sell the old DJ, buy the new from the SA to maximize history, then get the batgirl you want. Life is too short to be playing games.

[jgottsman11]

Originally Posted by John Doyle

SAs nowadays only care about selling. I would sell the old DJ, buy the new from the SA to maximize history, then get the batgirl you want. Life is too short to be playing games.

Life too short to play games, yet you’re telling the OP to give in to the AD game?

[Krash]

Being honest and telling the truth is always the right thing to do. But with that said, we’re talking about acquiring a Rolex and working with an authorized dealer.

In order for me to get a GMT-Master II 126710 BLNR, I had to buy 2 Datejusts. One for my wife and one for me. And then it took 15 months before I got it.

That was fine because we wanted the DJs anyway, so for us, it wasn’t exactly tragic. On the contrary, It was actually wonderful for us. We’re very happy. We got the DJs we wanted, and I got my BLNR.

If your partner is amenable, then why not? Selling a Rolex behind the scenes to get a watch you want isn’t exactly a heinous lie. The other possibility is getting a DJ for yourself and then selling it when your BLNR arrives.


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[1William]

You do not owe the SA an explanation or reason as to why your partner no longer want the DJ. Tell her that your partner does not want the watch anymore and is trying to decide on something else.

[Easy E]

Just tell the SA he is not in a position to buy today. No further explanation necessary.

[GoGetter5832]

I’d be honest if you’re wanting to continue to have a relationship with this AD. Also, if your partner found the watch somewhere else, then your AD can’t be mad for taking too long to get him what he wanted. That’s the game. If they want to take forever to get you a DJ and you found it somewhere else then that’s on them for taking forever. I’m very loyal to my AD, but when I travel, don’t think that I don’t walk into different dealers and try to diversify my relationships, just in case I get offered something that I want and have been waiting for a while for from my AD.

[NachoNeal]

Originally Posted by John Doyle

SAs nowadays only care about selling. I would sell the old DJ, buy the new from the SA to maximize history, then get the batgirl you want. Life is too short to be playing games.

Ironic much?

[Jack T]

The lengths some will go to get their hands on a Rolex…

[worldofoyster]

just be honest, don't need to buy something you guys dont want

[Hardtimes]

I will echo, the just be honest and upfront.

[vesnyder]

Ive found myself in a similar situation. Best option is to tell the truth!

[MichelleP]

Originally Posted by 1William

You do not owe the SA an explanation or reason as to why your partner no longer want the DJ. Tell her that your partner does not want the watch anymore and is trying to decide on something else.

^^
this

[Rolex.Journey]

Just say he was traveling and ended up visiting an AD at some random airport and boom, they had it so he bought it.


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[AF_Rob]

Originally Posted by winfieldblue

Helpful comments please. No "stop being pathetic and kissing a**." Please don't comment if that's your contribution. I already know this :)

Well, my contribution would be that you don't do that.

Just be honest about the situation. You are one of many customers in her daily life. I'm sure it will be fine.

[Old Expat Beast]

Just be honest. She's likely just playing you anyway.

[CarlOver]

Come clean and it will work out for you. No need to BS then have to remember the BS you spewed.