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Old 26 February 2024, 07:54 PM   #1
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Should new Rolexes have dirt/dust on the dial?

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This Rolex is a few weeks old (OP, silver, 36"). Bought from an official Rolex retailer, as per the Rolex website. Although note this is a shady store which requires you buy a Tudor every time you buy a Rolex.

I bought a loupe (Belomo, 10x) to look at it in detail and I've noticed two things:

1. There are specs of dirt/dust on the dial at 6 minutes and 13 minutes. Only visible with a loupe.

2. No matter what I do, I cannot see the crown etched into the crystal.

I know (2) can be difficult to find, so not too worried about that, but should new Rolexes have specs of dirt/dust on the dial?

Thanks
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:00 PM   #2
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OK found this thread which suggests it's normal for Rolex:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=795200

Disappointing.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:19 PM   #3
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Rolex only ships their watches with the highest quality dirt (Rolirt) and dust (Rolust).

You’re good
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:39 PM   #4
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I bought a loupe (Belomo, 10x) to look at it in detail and I've noticed two things
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:43 PM   #7
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Should new Rolexes have dirt/dust on the dial?

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Hi all

This Rolex is a few weeks old (OP, silver, 36"). Bought from an official Rolex retailer, as per the Rolex website. Although note this is a shady store which requires you buy a Tudor every time you buy a Rolex.

I bought a loupe (Belomo, 10x) to look at it in detail and I've noticed two things:

1. There are specs of dirt/dust on the dial at 6 minutes and 13 minutes. Only visible with a loupe.

2. No matter what I do, I cannot see the crown etched into the crystal.

I know (2) can be difficult to find, so not too worried about that, but should new Rolexes have specs of dirt/dust on the dial?

Thanks
Wait for the loupe and other instruments haters. They will tell you what to do

Of course watches should not have dirt or dust on the dial, but this depends on the size of contamination.

Anyhow, it would be interesting to know Rolex specs (or acceptance criteria) for dust on dials because it is only a question of magnification when one will see small particles.
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Old 26 February 2024, 08:46 PM   #8
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Take it over to the RSC at Jardine House. They'll take a look at it there and then, and tell you if it's a warranty issue.
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Old 26 February 2024, 09:07 PM   #9
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Should new Rolexes have dirt/dust on the dial?

Rolex will always have visible flaws under 10x. Scratches on hands. Debris on dial and hands. I use 2-3x to look at mine.

10x flawless is VC, Patek, Lange etc territory.

I'd learn to live with anything invisible to naked eye or 2x or sell it and buy a higher quality watch if you demand something closer to perfection.

If you take it to RSC I bet you $100 it comes back worse.
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Take it over to the RSC at Jardine House. They'll take a look at it there and then, and tell you if it's a warranty issue.
Thanks, I'll do that.
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Old 26 February 2024, 09:32 PM   #11
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Rolex will always have visible flaws under 10x. Scratches on hands. Debris on dial and hands. I use 2-3x to look at mine.

10x flawless is VC, Patek, Lange etc territory.

I'd learn to live with anything invisible to naked eye or 2x or sell it and buy a higher quality watch if you demand something closer to perfection.

If you take it to RSC I bet you $100 it comes back worse.
Yes, good point, I can live with the current issues.
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Old 26 February 2024, 10:03 PM   #12
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Had a speck of dust on an AP dial visible without a loupe in bright sun. It happens.
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Hi all

This Rolex is a few weeks old (OP, silver, 36"). Bought from an official Rolex retailer, as per the Rolex website. Although note this is a shady store which requires you buy a Tudor every time you buy a Rolex.

I bought a loupe (Belomo, 10x) to look at it in detail and I've noticed two things:

1. There are specs of dirt/dust on the dial at 6 minutes and 13 minutes. Only visible with a loupe.

2. No matter what I do, I cannot see the crown etched into the crystal.

I know (2) can be difficult to find, so not too worried about that, but should new Rolexes have specs of dirt/dust on the dial?

Thanks
Afraid today loupes and the rest of todays Rolex toys can and will be a new Rolex owers worst enemy. Myself been learning about the history of the RWC for well over 50 years,and wearing and enjoying wearing Rolex watches almost daily over those years. And all information supplied from my own 79 year old brain power, without the aid of loupes, silly nicknames, machine winders, timegraphers, alignment points, protective film,AD relationship building, investment £$€ stuff, special cleaning cloths, phone apps, and the rest of todays Rolex watch toys.So my advice throw away your loupe and just wear and enjoy wearing your new watch in good health, now thats far more important than a miniscule spec can assure you.
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Anyhow, it would be interesting to know Rolex specs (or acceptance criteria) for dust on dials because it is only a question of magnification when one will see small particles.
Manufacturing tolerances are likely better than this, but as I understand it, service tolerance is that if I can't see it unmagnified at 10in away, it's acceptable. Hopefully most watchmakers have higher standards than that.
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nothing in this world that is man made is perfect.........wear your watch and enjoy .....time for enjoyment is limited.
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Most Rolexes I've had have had excellent QC, the one that had scratches on the hands and the other a wonky date window were selling very competitively by a used/grey, maybe that was why.
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