Anyone Excited For Olympics?

[espanol]

Finding myself enamored by British doubles in tennis, Spain as well. Who all is feeling completely engulfed in all that is 2024 summer Olympics?

[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by espanol

Finding myself enamored by British doubles in tennis, Spain as well. Who all is feeling completely engulfed in all that is 2024 summer Olympics?

Been a couple threads on this. There are two currently (one locked) that are showing the potential for or had a lot of discourse. Just check out the last days worth of posts in the open discussion forum.


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[espanol]

Originally Posted by MrGoat

Been a couple threads on this. There are two currently (one locked) that are showing the potential for or had a lot of discourse. Just check out the last days worth of posts in the open discussion forum.


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Goat, sorry brother you're right. Will check those out!

[MrGoat]

Originally Posted by espanol

Goat, sorry brother you're right. Will check those out!

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[RichardBartlett]

No, it's disgusting.

Now they got men are beating up women in the name of diversity. Oh Sorry sport..

I refuse to watch any of it. It's sickening
Any normal decent human being should boycott it

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[gamingdoctor]

Originally Posted by RichardBartlett

No, it's disgusting.

Now they got men are beating up women in the name of diversity. Oh Sorry sport..

I refuse to watch any of it. It's sickening
Any normal decent human being should boycott it

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Are you intentionally trying to get threads closed? Why would you do this

[RichardBartlett]

Originally Posted by gamingdoctor

Are you intentionally trying to get threads closed? Why would you do this

Sorry I didn't realize men beating up women was so high on your viewing wish list

[Bazil]

Fred Sireaux daughter won diving bronze today, she was superb … synchronised diving … good on them ..

[joe100]

I love these Olympic threads because if it’s easy to find new people for my block list. Keep up the good work.

[White Collar Boy]

Originally Posted by joe100

I love these Olympic threads because if it’s easy to find new people for my block list. Keep up the good work.

I agree Joe. It’s dispiriting, but there’s a button for that!

[hambone1983]

Originally Posted by joe100

I love these Olympic threads because if it’s easy to find new people for my block list. Keep up the good work.

Interesting hobby

[Bazil]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

I agree Joe. It’s dispiriting, but there’s a button for that!

Originally Posted by joe100

I love these Olympic threads because if it’s easy to find new people for my block list. Keep up the good work.

I know right, a different opinion ? Get them cancelled ! Get that button pressed ! How dare they have a different opinion .. yuk ..

[shaunylw]

I don’t usually watch but i saw some basketball today while at the gym, and the wife was watching soccer at some point, looked good. I’m sure i will watch the basketball finals whenever they are on and likely soccer.


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[White Collar Boy]

Originally Posted by Bazil

I know right, a different opinion ? Get them cancelled ! Get that button pressed ! How dare they have a different opinion .. yuk ..

ROFL! I come here for light enjoyment, not to hear people vent spleen. So I’m all for the tight forum rules that preclude politics, and that ignore button is increasingly useful. Which reminds me… Later.

[Bazil]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

ROFL! I come here for light enjoyment, not to hear people vent spleen. So I’m all for the tight forum rules that preclude politics, and that ignore button is increasingly useful. Which reminds me… Later.

Me too, and any opinion is welcome .. but by all means, please press …

[White Collar Boy]

Originally Posted by espanol

Finding myself enamored by British doubles in tennis, Spain as well. Who all is feeling completely engulfed in all that is 2024 summer Olympics?

I’m into the tennis too. It doesn’t feel as high stakes as a grand slam, but you can tell it means a lot to the players and it’s great to see more tennis at Roland-Garros so soon after the French Open.

[RichardBartlett]

"Female boxer yells 'this is unjust' and falls to her knees in tears as she quits fight against 'biologically male' Olympic opponent Imane Khelif after just 46 SECONDS following two powerful punches"

Well done the Olympic committee. You've shown the girls who's boss!!

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[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by RichardBartlett

"Female boxer yells 'this is unjust' and falls to her knees in tears as she quits fight against 'biologically male' Olympic opponent Imane Khelif after just 46 SECONDS following two powerful punches"

Well done the Olympic committee. You've shown the girls who's boss!!

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It's completely disgraceful. A study said that once an average boy passes puberty, the punching power as compared to a similarly aged woman is 162% greater. If his male born athlete is allowed to box women, then the next match should be against a man in the same weight category and see what happens - just to be fair. That's what we all want right? Fairness and equality.

[gamingdoctor]

Originally Posted by Bazil

I know right, a different opinion ? Get them cancelled ! Get that button pressed ! How dare they have a different opinion .. yuk ..

There's opinions, and then there's stating that the olympics are promoting abuse and violence.

For what it's worth, I don't think biological males should be competing against biological females. Even on blockers there's no competition; there's a reason why we split genders in sports in the first place.

[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by gamingdoctor

There's opinions, and then there's stating that the olympics are promoting abuse and violence.

For what it's worth, I don't think biological males should be competing against biological females. Even on blockers there's no competition; there's a reason why we split genders in sports in the first place.

Agree. It's no longer fair competition at that point.

[AzPaul]

One of the highest ranked female fighters in the world, Busenaz Sürmeneli of Turkey, is at the top of the women's 66kg weight class. It'll be interesting to see what happens if they meet.

[SDGT3]

Unlike swimming or similar, non-contact sports, I think at this point it's a matter of safety for female boxers.

[rolexpatek363]

Originally Posted by SDGT3

It's completely disgraceful. A study said that once an average boy passes puberty, the punching power as compared to a similarly aged woman is 162% greater. If his male born athlete is allowed to box women, then the next match should be against a man in the same weight category and see what happens - just to be fair. That's what we all want right? Fairness and equality.

All very exciting, except Imane Khelif is a woman. She isn't a transsexual.

So there's that.

[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by rolexpatek363

All very exciting, except Imane Khelif is a woman. She isn't a transsexual.

So there's that.

Never mentioned anything about trans.

At the centre of the storm is Khelif who was banned from a previous women's international competition event after tests reportedly found she had 'male sex chromosomes' leading to comments she is a 'biological male'.

At the time International Boxing Associate president, Umar Kremlev, claimed the tests had proven Khelif 'had XY chromosomes', which are an indicator someone is male.

He added that they 'uncovered athletes who were trying to fool their colleagues and pretend to be women'.

[77T]

It's true IBA found elevated Testosterone and that was part of the IBA test protocol to cancel the Algerian's entry before a tournament in 2023.

However, it wasn't a DNA test so what mattered was the result was the same as doping. But undetermined cause for the T levels.

At the Olympics, boxing qualifications are under special sanctioning circumstances - IOC barred the IBA from governing the bouts leading up to the Olympics.

Also, sex testing is not as clear-cut as binary - the guidelines from many athletic governing bodies vary. The IOC declared for boxing it would be the sex stated on the athlete's passport. I believe there will be post-medal round testing but safety is moot after the fact.

Because boxing is violent personal combat capable of resulting in permanent damage, I'd suggest there should be no women's bouts in the future due to the danger of gender bending no matter how it is determined.


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[RichardBartlett]

From a well known UK sports presenter

"I’ve just done a bbc interview & several facts were presented wrong to me. These boxers did not have testosterone tests they had gender/sex tests. They were banned because they came back with an Y chromosome result. Testosterone levels are an utter red herring in all of this.

Castor Semenya as per the written CASS report also states the ruling only applies to individuals with 46XY 5ARD - a DSD which only affects biological males.

CS does not have unusual levels of testosterone for a female they have normal levels for a male.

The facts the MSM must start to report correctly so the general public are properly informed about the biology of the individuals when biology in sport is what matters so very much.

Non of this is the fault of the DSD athletes of course, but once they know they are biologically male they also know they have an unfair & potentially dangerous advantage.

Bring back simple once in a lifetime cheek swab sex screening as female athletes want & stop the vile circus which benefits no one caused 100 % by the IOC"

There is so much lying by MSM just to push a narrative and be 'right on and woke' it's distorting peoples mindset to believe what they are told.

Sadly the BBC once a bastion for the truth is just a propaganda machine..

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[SDGT3]

Originally Posted by 77T

It's true IBA found elevated Testosterone and that was part of the IBA test protocol to cancel the Algerian's entry before a tournament in 2023.

However, it wasn't a DNA test so what mattered was the result was the same as doping. But undetermined cause for the T levels.

At the Olympics, boxing qualifications are under special sanctioning circumstances - IOC barred the IBA from governing the bouts leading up to the Olympics.

Also, sex testing is not as clear-cut as binary - the guidelines from many athletic governing bodies vary. The IOC declared for boxing it would be the sex stated on the athlete's passport. I believe there will be post-medal round testing but safety is moot after the fact.

Because boxing is violent personal combat capable of resulting in permanent damage, I'd suggest there should be no women's bouts in the future due to the danger of gender bending no matter how it is determined.


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I suspected as much, the testing parameters are more lax for Olympics than for IBA and the passport documentation is obsurd. Again, in a sport where people have literally died in the ring from head blows, this is an area not to be taken lightly. I've read that it's the equivalent of having a 60 KG fighter in with a person who is 50% heavier at 90 KG.

[SDGT3]

On another note, there was a 51 year old mechanic from Turkey who picked up pistol target shooting late in life. He wore none of the special blockers or lenses on his eyes, no special ear protection, just buds. Puts his off hand in his pocket and comes away winning the silver metal. Pretty cool!

[Blansky]

Most people are for equality and for "diversity" but this male/female thing in sports needs to be addressed across the board from Olympics down to school sports in a mature fair manner.

I know it's complicated and it's always been complicated because sexuality is on a sliding spectrum. But I guess something like the XX/XY chromosome test would be a good start. If a person wants/needs to change sexes that's their decision, but it doesn't mean they should be able to compete in sports, especially combat sports, in whatever they decide.

But even back years ago there were women who were far larger/stronger than other women and some came out as lesbian and others didn't which is fine. I remember Chris Everett in womens tennis had a difficult time with Martina Navratilova's strength and power. In fact Martina's coach, Renee Richards, in 1970s had the same struggles after transitioning from a male to a female. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards

I've seen women's softball games where the women could probably beat the men they were so muscular.

So this issue ain't new, but we need to set some standards and rules to this issue. And it doesn't have to be political, just reach a fair decision for everyone.

Everyone used to laugh at the success of the East German women's teams, whatever the hell they were, but they eventually got nailed for testosterone abuse etc.

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by Blansky

Most people are for equality and for "diversity" but this male/female thing in sports needs to be addressed across the board from Olympics down to school sports in a mature fair manner.

I know it's complicated and it's always been complicated because sexuality is on a sliding spectrum. But I guess something like the XX/XY chromosome test would be a good start. If a person wants/needs to change sexes that's their decision, but it doesn't mean they should be able to compete in sports, especially combat sports, in whatever they decide.

But even back years ago there were women who were far larger/stronger than other women and some came out as lesbian and others didn't which is fine. I remember Chris Everett in womens tennis had a difficult time with Martina Navratilova's strength and power. In fact Martina's coach, Renee Richards, in 1970s had the same struggles after transitioning from a male to a female. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards

I've seen women's softball games where the women could probably beat the men they were so muscular.

So this issue ain't new, but we need to set some standards and rules to this issue. And it doesn't have to be political, just reach a fair decision for everyone.

Everyone used to laugh at the success of the East German women's teams, whatever the hell they were, but they eventually got nailed for testosterone abuse etc.

Agreed. A decent male boxer is going to have real potential to mangle a similar weight female. It just doesn’t make any sense. To appease the .0001% we have to let guys beat the heck out of woman. So strange.


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