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Old 18 December 2024, 01:14 AM   #1
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Now That I've FINALLY Purchased from the AD....

Seriously - I have bought more than 20 and the 1st one ever from Rolex AD was Sunday night.

Here is my question - now that I have spent 43k on a PM watch - what are my chances and how are the odds and who has experience buying coveted sports models afterwards?

Like - because I spent a large sum would it be likely they would sell me a Pepsi? Or a Minty Green Sky D? TBH everyone loves that ceramic Daytona but i have a rose gold one and i have an explorer 2 with Polar dial - so the all black wouldn't be for me and the panda dial would not be sexy for me at all. I'd never buy it and I'd never buy it and flip it.

Just curious people's past experience on how they built momentum at the AD and what kind of great things they got from it.

If they made you buy a 2 tone explorer 1?? Or a steel 36mm oyster date just with a smooth bezel maybe don't tell me about that - it will make me cry a little if that's how it went for you.
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Old 18 December 2024, 01:18 AM   #2
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Seriously - I have bought more than 20 and the 1st one ever from Rolex AD was Sunday night.

Here is my question - now that I have spent 43k on a PM watch - what are my chances and how are the odds and who has experience buying coveted sports models afterwards?

Like - because I spent a large sum would it be likely they would sell me a Pepsi? Or a Minty Green Sky D? TBH everyone loves that ceramic Daytona but i have a rose gold one and i have an explorer 2 with Polar dial - so the all black wouldn't be for me and the panda dial would not be sexy for me at all. I'd never buy it and I'd never buy it and flip it.

Just curious people's past experience on how they built momentum at the AD and what kind of great things they got from it.

If they made you buy a 2 tone explorer 1?? Or a steel 36mm oyster date just with a smooth bezel maybe don't tell me about that - it will make me cry a little if that's how it went for you.
Your miles may vary - talk to your AD and be honest and see what they say. Best place to start. Pepsi probably not likely - skyd green also unlikely due to how few ADs get but doesnt hurt to try, you never know.
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Old 18 December 2024, 01:23 AM   #3
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Seriously - I have bought more than 20 and the 1st one ever from Rolex AD was Sunday night.

Here is my question - now that I have spent 43k on a PM watch - what are my chances and how are the odds and who has experience buying coveted sports models afterwards?

Like - because I spent a large sum would it be likely they would sell me a Pepsi? Or a Minty Green Sky D? TBH everyone loves that ceramic Daytona but i have a rose gold one and i have an explorer 2 with Polar dial - so the all black wouldn't be for me and the panda dial would not be sexy for me at all. I'd never buy it and I'd never buy it and flip it.

Just curious people's past experience on how they built momentum at the AD and what kind of great things they got from it.

If they made you buy a 2 tone explorer 1?? Or a steel 36mm oyster date just with a smooth bezel maybe don't tell me about that - it will make me cry a little if that's how it went for you.
Pandas, Pepsi’s and Minty greens notwithstanding, I purchased an LV Submariner from a new AD in April 2022. The same AD but different SA offered me a BLNR on Jubilee this past June which I also bought. They then offered me a YG Deep Sea this fall but it was just too much watch for me so I passed. That’s been my experience since the pandemic.
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Old 18 December 2024, 01:51 AM   #4
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It all depends on your relationship. It also may depend on what you bought … ladies diamond encrusted small watch got him out of a bind, so maybe he owes you one.


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Old 18 December 2024, 02:28 AM   #5
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Relationship, credibility, and, yes, spend history matter. It all takes time and commitment. Some people like myself enjoy the AD experience, while others, who for various reasons, want immediate gratification will go gray. All are matters of personal choice.
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Old 18 December 2024, 02:32 AM   #6
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Seriously - I have bought more than 20 and the 1st one ever from Rolex AD was Sunday night.

If they made you buy a 2 tone explorer 1?? Or a steel 36mm oyster date just with a smooth bezel maybe...

Personally, I wouldn’t be able to afford an AD ‘relationship’. I buy grey at nearly 2x retail (if need be) to get what I wanted without buying a haul of things I don’t want/need. It works out better for me in the long run.
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Old 18 December 2024, 02:36 AM   #7
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According to the magical foolproof algorithm you may or may not be offered a coveted sports model. Report back your findings and we’ll add it to the dataset.
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Old 18 December 2024, 02:58 AM   #8
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We still live in the Rolex AD world, where most or many ADs believe they did you a big favor selling you that watch.
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Old 18 December 2024, 02:59 AM   #9
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Seriously - I have bought more than 20 and the 1st one ever from Rolex AD was Sunday night.

Here is my question - now that I have spent 43k on a PM watch - what are my chances and how are the odds and who has experience buying coveted sports models afterwards?

Like - because I spent a large sum would it be likely they would sell me a Pepsi? Or a Minty Green Sky D? TBH everyone loves that ceramic Daytona but i have a rose gold one and i have an explorer 2 with Polar dial - so the all black wouldn't be for me and the panda dial would not be sexy for me at all. I'd never buy it and I'd never buy it and flip it.

Just curious people's past experience on how they built momentum at the AD and what kind of great things they got from it.

If they made you buy a 2 tone explorer 1?? Or a steel 36mm oyster date just with a smooth bezel maybe don't tell me about that - it will make me cry a little if that's how it went for you.
Well in the real world most of all this AD spend and relationships stuff mainly exists in internet land.As all ADs like any other retail business are there for one thing only, that's to sell as many of the products they sell to anyone with the cash that entered there retail shop.
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Old 18 December 2024, 03:15 AM   #10
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Hard to say. $43K on one PM watch sounds like a good start but each “relationship” is different. You won’t get anything if you don’t ask.
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Old 18 December 2024, 03:25 AM   #11
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I would have asked just before committing to spending $43k with the AD :)
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Old 18 December 2024, 03:30 AM   #12
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Is their impression that another $43k is on tap in the future?

To allocate to customers is not just about a $ amount in a single transaction. There is the future revenue stream (potential / expected) and how to entice that spend to be with them vs elsewhere. Or at least that should be the approach.
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Old 18 December 2024, 03:37 AM   #13
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I bought a TT DJ in 2020 for my wife that she wanted. It opened the door to sports watches. Depending what 43k watch you bought, they either did you a favor already or you did them one. What did you end up buying ?
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Old 18 December 2024, 03:37 AM   #14
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In my opinion, it sounds like a catch 22. If you continue to buy more and more models to finally receive a coveted piece, that just proves to the AD that you are willing to keep buying. What is their motivation to sell you a coveted model? Because if they do, you will stop buying.

But in your eyes, if you don't buy, you’ll never receive that coveted piece. Infinite loop.
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Old 18 December 2024, 03:44 AM   #15
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Well in the real world most of all this AD spend and relationships stuff mainly exists in internet land.As all ADs like any other retail business are there for one thing only, that's to sell as many of the products they sell to anyone with the cash that entered there retail shop.
Again, just simply not reality.
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Old 18 December 2024, 04:20 AM   #16
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Spending a significant amount definitely helps build a stronger relationship with the AD, increasing your chances for coveted pieces like the Pepsi or Sky D. Building momentum often involves staying engaged and being patient. Keep showing interest, and the right offers may come your way!
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Old 18 December 2024, 04:28 AM   #17
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I would have asked just before committing to spending $43k with the AD :)
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Old 18 December 2024, 04:28 AM   #18
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In my opinion, it sounds like a catch 22. If you continue to buy more and more models to finally receive a coveted piece, that just proves to the AD that you are willing to keep buying. What is their motivation to sell you a coveted model? Because if they do, you will stop buying.

But in your eyes, if you don't buy, you’ll never receive that coveted piece. Infinite loop.
I would never buy a bunch of watches i don't like to get a grail.tbh I have everything but a day date.
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I bought a TT DJ in 2020 for my wife that she wanted. It opened the door to sports watches. Depending what 43k watch you bought, they either did you a favor already or you did them one. What did you end up buying ?
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Old 18 December 2024, 04:32 AM   #20
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I would have asked just before committing to spending $43k with the AD :)
It was my 22nd purchase. I wasn't there to get what I wanted based on them selling me fish in the sea.

Make sense? Who is promising me what you're talking about? Then what you want it in writing? Legal review or it's worthless.... um... I'd escort a customer like that out the door because one like me is always waiting.
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Old 18 December 2024, 04:35 AM   #21
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There is no set number or dollar amount. The more you buy more consistently over time, you are more likely than someone who has bought nothing.

Some ADs might track more detailed, some might not.
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Old 18 December 2024, 04:36 AM   #22
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Seriously - I have bought more than 20 and the 1st one ever from Rolex AD was Sunday night.

Here is my question - now that I have spent 43k on a PM watch - what are my chances and how are the odds and who has experience buying coveted sports models afterwards?

Like - because I spent a large sum would it be likely they would sell me a Pepsi? Or a Minty Green Sky D? TBH everyone loves that ceramic Daytona but i have a rose gold one and i have an explorer 2 with Polar dial - so the all black wouldn't be for me and the panda dial would not be sexy for me at all. I'd never buy it and I'd never buy it and flip it.

Just curious people's past experience on how they built momentum at the AD and what kind of great things they got from it.

If they made you buy a 2 tone explorer 1?? Or a steel 36mm oyster date just with a smooth bezel maybe don't tell me about that - it will make me cry a little if that's how it went for you.
4 precious metal watches (cookie monster, yellow sub blue dial, wht gold blue daytona, and if rose gold daytona) purchased whith 3 yrs and a Starbucks so far. My area is between the OC and LA so alot of competition unfortunately.

Multiple SA have said "250k spend is not uncommon"
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Old 18 December 2024, 05:08 AM   #23
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It was my 22nd purchase. I wasn't there to get what I wanted based on them selling me fish in the sea.

Make sense? Who is promising me what you're talking about? Then what you want it in writing? Legal review or it's worthless.... um... I'd escort a customer like that out the door because one like me is always waiting.
To each his own I guess...

When I was buying my 18 year old Son his first Submariner, I struck it off with the owner of the AD. I had never spent a penny in that store before. We chatted about life and family etc. for quite some time. He asked how long my wife and I were married. We said that we were approaching our 20th anniversary in 2 months and told him that we were thinking about a getting watches to celebrate. He asked what we'd like and I said that I would like a white SS ceramic Daytona (half joking) and that my wife would like another DJ (she was wearing one). He laughed at my request at first, but after we talked for a while longer, he told me that he would see what he could do. I walked out of the store with the Sub and 3 weeks later the Daytona and DJ. I've found that people usually try and take care of people that they like and in this case that rang true.

But yeah, I guess I could have played it your way and posted on an Internet forum asking what everyone thought about my chances of asking an AD for a specific watch at a later date rather when I was standing there wallet in hand.
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It was my 22nd purchase. I wasn't there to get what I wanted based on them selling me fish in the sea.

Make sense? Who is promising me what you're talking about? Then what you want it in writing? Legal review or it's worthless.... um... I'd escort a customer like that out the door because one like me is always waiting.
I didn't suggest that you put a gun to their head. I was suggesting that a good time to talk about future purchases is when you are about to drop a bunch of money on a watch that isn't in high demand for many.
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Again, just simply not reality.
So what you are saying if say a customer walked into any AD with say £100000 is cash and the AD had the watches in stock.The AD would not sell the person with the cash because he had no AD relationship with that AD.
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So what you are saying if say a customer walked into any AD with say £100000 is cash and the AD had the watches in stock.The AD would not sell the person with the cash because he had no AD relationship with that AD.
I think you have it now.
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So what you are saying if say a customer walked into any AD with say £100000 is cash and the AD had the watches in stock.The AD would not sell the person with the cash because he had no AD relationship with that AD.
Sure….maybe for a black dial OP or white or silver dial DJ (non fluted or jubilee) but I don’t see any AD selling a GMT, Sky Dweller, Daytona to someone walking in the door with no relationship, from out of town or it being their first Rolex purchase no matter how much money they have whether its cash or not. Only way that’s happening if you purchase grey (above retail). Just my opinion.
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So what you are saying if say a customer walked into any AD with say £100000 is cash and the AD had the watches in stock.The AD would not sell the person with the cash because he had no AD relationship with that AD.
first off no AD is taking a stack of giant cash, assuming it's for a more expensive unobtainable watch. otherwise yeah, they won't sell you a steel daytona anyway
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So what you are saying if say a customer walked into any AD with say £100000 is cash and the AD had the watches in stock.The AD would not sell the person with the cash because he had no AD relationship with that AD.
Over the course of a 30-minute visit with an AD:

Four separate would be buyers came in asking to buy a Daytona.
All were told they could put down their information, but there was no specific timeline.

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